Other Events and Attributes:

• Appointments / Titles: Countess of Warren
• FSID: KCH1-6Z8

Notes:

“Royal Ancestry: A Study in Colonial & Medieval Families,” Douglas Richardson (2013):

“JOAN MARSHAL, married after 1219 (as his 1st wife) WARIN DE MUNCHENSY, Knt., of Swanscombe, Kent, 2nd son of William de Munchensy, Knt., of Swanscombe, Kent, Winfarthing and Gooderstone, Norfolk, etc., by Aveline, daughter of Roger de Clare, Earl of Hertford [see CLARE 4.ii for his ancestry]. He was born about 1192 (came of age in 1213). He was heir about 1208 to his older brother, William de Munchensy. They had one son, John, and one daughter, Joan. He was involved on the side of the Barons against King John, and his lands were forfeited. He was taken prisoner at the Battle of Lincoln 20 May 1217. He returned to allegiance by Nov. 1217. In 1221 he accompanied the king to the Siege of Byham. He was serving in Wales in 1223, with his brother-in-law, William Marshal, Earl of Pembroke. He was with the king overseas in 1229-30, and in Wales at the end of 1233. He married (2nd) between November 1234 and June 1235 DENISE DE ANESTY, widow of Walter Langton (died 1234), of Langton, Lincolnshire, and Ridgwell, Essex (brother of Archbishop Stephen Langton), and daughter and heiress of Nicholas de Anesty, of Ansty and Little Hormead, Hertfordshire, Bourn, Cambridgeshire, etc., by ___, sister of Hamon Pecche. They had one son, William. In 1237-8 he and his wife, Denise, acquired 1-1/2 virgate in Bourn, Cambridgeshire from William Haretail. He was serving in Gascony in 1242-44, where he took part in the Battle of Saintes. He was summoned against the Scots in 1244, and, in June 1245, for service in Wales. He was in Gascony again in 1252. He was at Dover 26 Dec. 1254, the day King Henry III appears to have crossed from Boulogne. SIR WARIN DE MUNCHENSY died testate about 20 July 1255. His widow, Denise, married (3rd) before 4 June 1260 ROBERT LE BOTELER (or LE BOTILLER). In 1260 he and his wife, Denise, were granted protection, they then going beyond seas. In 1266 he was granted a safe conduct, he then coming to the king's court. His wife, Denise, again went beyond seas in 1271. ROBERT LE BOTELER died before autumn 1272. In 1294 his widow, Denise, founded the nunnery of Waterbeach, Cambridgeshire. She died shortly before 23 May 1304, and was buried in the church of the Grey Friars, London.

Dugdale Monasticon Anglicanum 5 (1825): 271 (Abbey of Tintern, Titulus illorum de Verdon et de Genevill …: "Secunda filia antedicto Willihelmi Marescalli vocabatur Johanna, nupta Warino de Montecaniso, de qua habuit exitum Johannem de Montecaniso qui obiit sine hærede de se, et Johannam sororem ejus nuptam domino Willihelmo de Valentia."). Lipscomb Hist. & Antiqs. of Buckingham 1 (1847): 200-201 (Clare ped.). Clark Earls, Earldom, & Castle of Pembroke (1880): 69-75. Matthew of Paris Chronica Majora 5 (Rolls Ser. 57) (1880):504 (sub AD. 1255: "Obiit eodem tempore nobilis baro, inter omnes Angliae nobiles vel nobilissimus et sapientissimus vel unus de nobilioribus et sapientibus, Warinus de Muntcheinsil ... Dominus autem rex ilico custodiam haeredis ejus nomine Willeimi contulit Willelmo de Valentia fratri suo uterino, qui filiam ejusdem Warini, ut gener ejus esset, desponsaverat."). Stubbs Historical Works of Gervase of Canterbury 2 (Rolls Ser. 73) (1880): 110-111. Francisque-Michel Riles Gascons 1 (1885): 6, 10-11, 30-32, 190. Papal Regs.: Letters 1 (1893): 566 (Denise de Munchensy, foundress of Waterbeach Abbey, styled "king's kinswoman"). Desc. Cat. Ancient Deeds 2 (1894): 91. C.C.R. 1302-1307 (1908): 513. C.P.R. 1258-1266 (1910): 75, 621, 667. C.F.R. 1 (1911): 493. Inv. of the Hist. Monuments in Herefordshire (1911): 12. VCH Hampshire 4 (1911): 51-56. VCH Hertford 3 (1912): 232-240. Genealogist n.s. 34 (1918): 181-189 (William d'Aubeney, Earl of Arundel, styled "uncle" [avunculus] of Warin de Munchensy in 1213, he being half-brother of Warin's mother, Aveline de Clare). Bourdillon Order of Minoresses in England (1926): 13-16. Powicke Stephen Langton (1928). Pubs Bedfordshire Hist. oc. 13 (1930): Ped. 11 (Lenveyse, Birkin, Anstey ped.). C.P. 9 (1936): 421-422 (sub Munchensy). VCH Cambridge 2 (1948): 292-293; 5 (1973): 4-16. Sanders English Baronies (1960): 63, 144. Clanchy From Memory to Written Record: England 1066-1307 (1993): 197-200, 245. McCash Cultural Patronage of Medieval Women (1996): 245-246, 262-263. Higgitt Murthly Hours (2000): 175. Gee Women, Art & Patronage from Henry III to Edward III: 1216-1377 (2002): 75-76, 142. Lawrence Letters of Adam Marsh 1 (2006): 56-63.”

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From Medieval Lands:
JOAN (-before 1242). The Chronicle of Tintern Abbey, Monmouthshire, names (in order) ”Matilda…Johanna…Isabella” as the daughters of “Willielmi Marescalli comitis Penbrochiæ”[1596]. The same source records in a later passage that "secunda filia…Willihelmi Marescalli…Johanna" married "Warino de Montecaniso" by whom she was mother of "Johannem de Montecaniso" who died childless and "Johannam sororem eius" who married "domino Willihelmo de Valentia"[1597]. m as his first wife, WARIN de Munchensy, son of WILLIAM de Munchensy & his wife Aveline de Clare (-[20 Jul 1255]).

[Source: Medieval Lands, "JOAN Marshal", downloaded 8 August 2018, dvmansur.]

Joane married de Munchensy, Warin in 1222 in Pembroke, Pembrokeshire, Wales. Warin (son of de Munchensy, William and de Munchensy, Alice) was born in 1192 in Gooderstone, Norfolk, England; died on 20 Jul 1255 in Swaffham, Norfolk, England; was buried after 20 Jul 1255 in England. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

Other Events and Attributes:

• Appointments / Titles: Countess of Pembroke
• Appointments / Titles: Lady of Swanscombe
• FSID: KNHK-TVL

Notes:

https://www.geni.com/people/Joan-de-Valence-Lady-of-Swanscombe/6000000008204424740?through=6000000003827698287

Joan de Munchensi or Munchensy (or Joanna), Lady of Swanscombe and Countess of Pembroke (c. 1230 – aft. 20 September 1307), was the daughter of Joan Marshal and granddaughter of William Marshal, 1st Earl of Pembroke and Isabel de Clare, 4th Countess of Pembroke suo jure.

Family
William Marshal was the great Lord Marshal who served five successive Kings of England and died in 1219. William's five sons each in turn became Earl of Pembroke, but all died childless. His inheritance was thus divided among his daughters. Joan Marshal, the fourth daughter, married Warin de Munchensi (or Munchensy), Lord of Swanscombe. They were survived by one daughter, Joan de Munchensi, who (owing to Joan Marshal's death soon after her daughter's birth) was brought up by her stepmother, Warin's second wife, Dionisie de Munchensi.

Marriage and children
In 1247 three sons of Hugh X of Lusignan, in difficulties after the French annexation of their territories, accepted Henry III's invitation to come to England. The three were William of Valence, Guy of Lusignan and Aymer. The king found important positions for all of them and William was soon married to Joan. Her portion of the Marshal estates included the castle and lordship of Pembroke and the lordship of Wexford in Ireland. The custody of Joan's property was entrusted to her husband. She also, apparently, transmitted to him the title of Earl of Pembroke; he thus became the first of the de Valence holders of the earldom.

William of Valence died in 1296. Accounts of the offspring of William and Joan vary, but all say that there were five children, others seven including the last two:

1. Isabel de Valence (d. 5 October 1305), married before 1280 John Hastings, 1st Baron Hastings (6 May 1262 – 10 February 1313). Their grandson Lawrence later became earl of Pembroke. They had:
- William Hastings (1282 – 1311)
- John Hastings, 2nd Baron Hastings (29 September 1286 – 20 January 1325), married to Juliane de Leybourne (d. 1367)
- Sir Hugh Hastings of Sutton (d. 1347)
2. Joan de Valence, married to John Comyn (the "Red Comyn"), Lord of Badenoch (d. murdered, 10 February 1306), and had
- Elizabeth de Comyn (1 November 1299 – 20 November 1372), married to Richard Talbot, 2nd Baron Talbot
3. John de Valence (d. January 1277)
4. William de Valence (d. in battle in Wales on 16 June 1282), created Seigneur de Montignac and Bellac
5. Aymer de Valence, 2nd Earl of Pembroke and Wexford in 1296 (c. 1270 – 23 June 1324), married firstly to Beatrice de Clermont and married secondly to Marie de Châtillon
6. Margaret de Valence
7. Agnes de Valence (b. about 1250)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joan_de_Munchensi

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From Medieval Lands:

JOAN de Munchensy (-1307 before 20 Sep). The Chronicle of Tintern Abbey, Monmouthshire names "Johannam" as the daughter of "Warino de Montecaniso" and his wife, adding that she married "domino Willihelmo de Valentia"[1719]. Matthew of Paris names her and her father when he records her marriage[1720]. A charter dated 13 Aug 1247 ordered "William de Valence the king’s brother and Joan his wife to have seisin of the lands which belonged to John de Muntchesny of the inheritance of Walter Marshall late Earl of Pembroke, and which after John’s death ought to descend to Joan as his sister and heir"[1721]. m (before 13 Aug 1247) GUILLAUME de Lusignan "de Valence", son of HUGUES [XI] "le Brun" de Lusignan Comte de la Marche et d'Angoulême & his wife Isabelle Ctss d'Angoulême ([Cistercian Abbey of Valence, near Lusignan] after 1225[1722]-in England [1294/18 May 1296], bur Westminster Abbey). He styled himself Lord of Pembroke, he was never invested with the earldom of Pembroke.

Medieval Lands, "JOAN de Munchensy"

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Royal Ancestry by Douglas Richardson, Vol. 1 pg 58, 232; Vol. 3 pg 254; Vol. 4 pg 48-49
... daughter of Warin de Munchensy, Knt., of Swanscombe, Kent, and Winfarthing and Gooderstone, Norfolk.

(She) maried 13 Aug 1247 William de Valence. They had three sons, John, William, and Aymer, Knt. [Earl of Pembroke], and four daughters, Agnes, Isabel, Margaret, and Joan.

His wife, Joan, was heiress to her brother, John de Munchensy. His widow, Joan, presented to the churches of Cowarne, Herefordshire, 1304, and Goodrich Castle, Herefordshire, 1306.

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Joan married de Valence, Sir William on 13 Aug 1247 in Valence, Charente, Poitou-Charentes, France. William (son of de Lusignan, Count Hugh X and de Taillefer, Queen of England Isabelle) was born in 1226 in Valence, Charente, Poitou-Charentes, France; died on 18 May 1296 in Brabourne, Kent, England; was buried on 18 May 1296 in Westminster Abbey, Westminster, London, England. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

Other Events and Attributes:

• FSID: GKNT-1QM

Notes:

Isabel de Valence (died 5 October 1305), married before 1280 John Hastings, 1st Baron Hastings (6 May 1262 – 10 February 1313). They had:
William Hastings (1282–1311)
John Hastings, 2nd Baron Hastings (29 September 1286 – 20 January 1325), married to Juliane de Leybourne (died 1367). Their son Lawrence later became 1st Earl of Pembroke of the Hastings family.
Sir Hugh Hastings of Sutton (died 1347)
Elizabeth Hastings (1294 – 6 March 1353), married Roger Grey, 1st Baron Grey de Ruthyn.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_de_Valence%2C_1st_Earl_of_Pembroke

Isabel married de Hastings, John II before 1280. John was born on 6 May 1262 in Allesley, Warwickshire, England; died on 28 Feb 1313 in Abergavenny, Monmouthshire, Wales; was buried on 28 Feb 1313 in England. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

Other Events and Attributes:

• Appointments / Titles: Ruthin, Denbighshire, Wales; Baroness of Grey
• FSID: K427-CQ9

Notes:

«b»Biography«/b»
Elizabeth de Hastings was a daughter of Sir John de Hastings, 1st Baron Hastings, by his 1st wife Isabel de Valence.

She married Sir Roger de Grey, a younger son of the 2nd Lord Grey of Wilton. Her husband had a goodly chunk of the family property settled on him, including Ruthin Castle, and became the 1st Lord Grey of Ruthin.

«b»Children:«/b»
1.) Sir John

2.) Sir Reynold, who succeeded

3.) Julian, wife of Sir John Talbot, of Richard's Castle

4.) Mary, wife of Sir John de Burgh

5.) Joan, wife of Sir William de Patshull

6.) Maud, wife of William de la Roche

Family/Spouse: de Grey, Roger. Roger was born in 1298 in Ruthin Castle, Ruthin, Denbighshire, Wales; died on 6 Mar 1353 in Ruthin, Denbighshire, Wales; was buried after 6 Mar 1353 in Ruthin, Denbighshire, Wales. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]