Whalesborough, John II

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  1. 1.  Whalesborough, John II was born in 1369 in Whalesborough, Cornwall, England; died on 10 Jan 1418 in Nettlecombe, Dorset, England.

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    • FSID: GMST-FH8

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    Source : https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Whalesborough-3

    1369 Birth and Parents
    John Whalesborough [1] was born c1369. His father’s IPM in March 1381/82 says he was 15 years old, however an entry in the fine rolls regarding the dispute over his father’s lands states he was only 13. [2,3] He apparently didn’t make proof of his age until June 1391 supporting the later birthdate. [4] His wardship was first committed to his mother and her 2nd husband, then passed in June 1383 to William, Lord Botreaux, with whom they remained unt[1] il he proved his age in June 1391 and gained control over his inheritance.

    1391 License to Celebrate
    He had a license to celebrate at Lamorran 20 December 1391. [5] [1]

    Public Offices
    He was Commissioner of Array for Cornwall in 1399, 1403 and 1405; Knight of the Shire for Cornwall in 1402; Justice of the Peace 1403-1407. [6] [1]

    High Sheriff of Cornwall
    John Whalesborough[2], Esq., Justice of the Peace for Cornwall was born circa 1369 at of Whalesborough, Cornwall, England [3].

    1399 Marriage to Joan Raleigh
    He married, by 1399, Joan, daughter of Sir John Raleigh, of Nettlecombe, Somersetshire. On the death of her brother Simon, the estates of Raleigh of Nettlecombe would pass to her son Thomas, and then to his daughter Elizabeth. [7,8,9] She married 2ndly, Sir Thomas Pomeroy, and died testate in 1435/6; she is buried in Grey Friars in London. [10,11] [1]

    He married Jane Raleigh, daughter of Sir John Raleigh and Isamina de Hanham, before 1399.[4] John Whalesborough, Esq., Justice of the Peace for Cornwall died on 10 January 1418.[5][6]

    Rank of Esquire
    Douglas Richardson notes that "John Whalesborough (died 1418) who married Joan Raleigh held the social rank of esquire as indicated by the following record concerning the burial of his daughter, Anne, Lady Moleyns:

    Kingsford, Grey Friars of London (1915): 96 (“Et ad sinistram eorum jacet sub lapide ad murum chori venerabilis domina, domina Anna Molens, vxor domini Willelmi domini de Molens, et filia Johannis Whalysburgh, armigeri, de comitatu Cornubie: que obiit prima die mensis Marcii, A° dni. 1487.”)" [7]
    1418 Death
    He died 10 Jan 1418 with writ to take his lands into the King’s hands on 17 January. [12,13] An IPM was taken which I have not yet seen but a subsequent Close Roll writ shows him holding land at Whalesborough, Uthno, Treroos, Byryherber, Raghtre, Skywyek, Boskarne, Trewarueneth, Lamelwyn, Lantyrek, Chynans, Treseder and Lancarf. [14] [1]

    Issue
    i. John Whalesborough, born 1405. d.s.p. His brother Thomas was his heir. [1]
    ii. Robert Whalesborough. [1]
    iii. William Whalesborough. [1]
    iv. Thomas Whalesborough. See next. [1]
    v. Alice Whalesborough d. 1471, m. John Fitz Rafe. [11,15] [1]
    vi. Esmania Whalesborough, m. Thomas, 7th Lord Scales. [16] [1]
    vii. Anne Whalesborough, d. testate 1 March 1487 m. 1st 1 May 1423 Sir William Moleyns (d. 1429). m. 2nd Edmund Hampdens [17,18,19,20] (Note: As a correction to Leo’s Genealogics, Anne had two daughters, neither of whom was the Catherine Moleyns who married John Howard, Duke of Norfolk. Catherine is actually the daughter of William Moleyns d. 1425 and sister of the William who married Anne Whalesborough. [21,22,23])
    viii. Elizabeth Whalesborough, m. John Hampden. [24, 25] [1] Richardson has Anne Whalesborough the daughter of John Whalesborough, Esq, by Joan, daughter of John Raleigh, Knt. Anne married William Moleyns and had two daughters, Eleanor and Frideswide. [5]
    Sources
    ↑ 1.00 1.01 1.02 1.03 1.04 1.05 1.06 1.07 1.08 1.09 1.10 1.11 Joe Cochoit. Whalesborough. Soc.genealogy.medieval, June 7, 2010. Accessed 19 August 2020 jhd
    ↑ Douglas Richardson, Magna Carta Ancestry, 2nd Edition, Vol. I, p. 107.
    ↑ Douglas Richardson, Magna Carta Ancestry, 2nd Edition, Vol. III, p. 153-154
    ↑ Douglas Richardson, Magna Carta Ancestry, 2nd Edition, Vol. III, p. 514
    ↑ 5.0 5.1 Douglas Richardson, Royal Ancestry, Vol. IV, p. 108.
    ↑ Douglas Richardson, Royal Ancestry, Vol. IV, p. 573
    ↑ Douglas Richardson. Whalesborough. Soc.genealogy.medieval, June 7, 2010. Accessed 19 August 2020

    ConstituencyDates
    CORNWALL
    1402
    Family and Education
    b.c.1369, s. and h. of John Whalesborough (d.1382) of Whalesborough by his w. Margaret. m. by 1399, Joan (d.1435/6), da. of Sir John Raleigh† of Nettlecombe, Som., 4s. 4da.1

    Offices Held
    Commr. of array, Cornw. Dec. 1399, Aug., Sept. 1403, July 1405; to collect a subsidy Mar. 1404; of inquiry Jan. 1406 (unlawful assemblies).

    J.p. Cornw. 14 Mar. 1403-Feb. 1407.

    Biography
    Whalesborough’s father died while he was still a minor (aged about 13), leaving six manors and three advowsons in Cornwall, all of which were settled on his widow for life should she not remarry. However, she did marry again and a dispute over the wardship of the lands and heir ensued. At first committed to the widow and her second husband, they passed in June 1383 to William, Lord Botreaux, with whom they remained until Whalesborough proved his age in June 1391. According to an extent made the previous year his inheritance was worth £31 6s.8d. p.a.2 Whalesborough seems to have increased this property, for by his death he owned seven manors and extensive lands in Cornwall besides receiving rents at Berrynarbor, Devon. With great care and forethought, and in some detail, he settled these estates for the benefit of his wife and family, beginning in 1401, when Sir John Grenville*, his neighbour at Stow, and other friends acted as feoffees of Tresidder and Lancarffe. Subsequent transactions in 1403 (regarding the manor of Whalesborough) and 1411 (that of Lamellion) provided his wife with a jointure. Then, in July 1417, two further settlements were made for his sons, John and Robert, and finally, in December that year, Perranuthnoe, Trerose and Halwyn, along with three advowsons, were put into the hands of trustees, headed by (Sir) John Colshull II*, presumably in the interest of the heir, Thomas.3

    Only a few other traces of Whalesborough’s activities have survived. He received an episcopal licence for oratories at any of his manor-houses in December 1391, and he and his wife and William their son received a similar one specifically for Whalesborough in June 1400. In 1405 the Crown unsuccessfully disputed Whalesborough’s right to the patronage of the church at St. Mawnan. His land evidently gave him some considerable status in the county. For instance, he was asked to act as arbitrator in a local dispute, and five of his feoffees (Colshull, Grenville, John Arundell II*, Nicholas Broomford* and John But*), at one time or another sat in Parliament. He himself participated in the Cornish elections held in October 1411 and April 1413 at Launceston and Lostwithiel, respectively. Moreover, the connexion with the noble family of Botreaux, begun during his minority, was always maintained.4

    Whalesborough died on 10 Jan. 1418. Custody of his lands and the marriage of his heir, then aged 13, was granted out by the Crown for £100. His widow took as her second husband Sir Thomas Pomeroy*, while one of his daughters married Thomas, Lord Scales, and another William, Lord Moleyns.5

    John married Raleigh, Joan about 1399 in England. Joan was born in 1372 in Williton, Somerset, England; died in 1435 in Nettlecombe, Somerset, England; was buried in 1435 in Nettlecombe, Somerset, England. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

    Children:
    1. 2. Whalesborough, Margery Anne  Descendancy chart to this point was born in 1381 in Whalesborough, Cornwall, England; died on 26 Mar 1439 in Stoke Poges, Buckinghamshire, England; was buried in 1439 in Stoke Poges, Buckinghamshire, England.


Generation: 2

  1. 2.  Whalesborough, Margery Anne Descendancy chart to this point (1.John1) was born in 1381 in Whalesborough, Cornwall, England; died on 26 Mar 1439 in Stoke Poges, Buckinghamshire, England; was buried in 1439 in Stoke Poges, Buckinghamshire, England.

    Other Events and Attributes:

    • FSID: LRGC-ZQL
    • Will: 12 Jun 1439, Stoke Poges, Buckinghamshire, England

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    Margery Whalesborough was born about 1381 at Whalesborough, Cornwall, England, to Sir John Whalesborough IV (1367-1418) Cornwall County, England and Lady Joan Raleigh (1372-1436). She married Sir William Moleyns of Stoke Poges, Buckinghamshire England.

    John Whalesborough, Esq. MP
    Also Known As:"John Waesbreu", "John Whalesboro", "John de Walesborough", "John de Walesbury"Birthdate:circa 1380Birthplace:Whalesborough, Cornwall, England Death:Died January 10, 1418 in Nettlecombe, Williton, Somerset, EnglandImmediate Family:
    Son of John Whalesborough, of Lancarfe and Margaret (Maud) de Whalesborough
    Husband of Joan Whalesborough
    Father of Thomas de Whalesborough, Sheriff of Cornwall; John Whalesburgh, (? died young); Elizabeth de Hampden; Anne Whalesborough, Baroness Moleyns; Alice Fitzeralph and 3 others
    Brother of Rev. Benedict Whalesborough

    Baroness Anne Moleyns(1)

    Ann Whalesborough passed away after 28 February 1467, London, Middlesex, England, age 62. Buried at Grey Friars’ Church, London, Middlesex, England. Her will was dated 28 February 1467, London.

    Daughter of Sir John Whalesborough of Whalesborough, Cornwall and Joan Raleigh, daughter of Sir John Raleigh.

    She was the second wife of Sir William Moleyns of Stoke Poges, the son of Sir William Moleyns and his wife, Margery. They were married 01 May 1423 at Ewelme, Oxford, and had two daughters; Eleanor and Frideswide. Sir William was killed at the Siege or Orleans in 1429.

    Secondly, Anne was the wife of Sir Edmund Hampden, son of Edmund Hampden of Wingrave, Buckinghamshire and Joan Belknap, daughter of Sire Robert. They married before 26 Nov 1442, the date of their marriage settlement, and had no children. Sir Edmund was killed at the Battle of Shrewsbury 1471.

    Anne died testate in St Francis Chapel in the Church of the Grey Friars, London, administration of her estate was granted 02 May 1489 to her daughter, Eleanor Manningham Hungerford.

    Whalesborough, England

    Old Manor House, Stoke, Poges, Buckinghamshire, England, 1429

    KYNANCE COVE
    Coast of Cornwall
    Children of William Moleyns and Margery Whalesborough:

    1. Catherine de Moleyns, Dutchess of Norfolk (1424-1465)
    2. *ELEANOR DE MOLEYNS (1426-1476)
    3. Frideswide De Moleyns (1428-1464)

    Margery married de Moleynes, Sir William on 29 Sep 1405 in England. William (son of de Moleynes, Richard and Beaumont, Eleanor) was born on 7 Jan 1378 in London, London, England; died on 8 Jun 1425 in Stoke Poges, Buckinghamshire, England; was buried after 8 Jun 1425 in St Giles Church, Stoke Poges, Buckinghamshire, England. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

    Children:
    1. 3. de Moleynes, William  Descendancy chart to this point was born in Dec 1405 in Stoke Poges, Buckinghamshire, England; died on 8 May 1429 in Orléans, Loiret, Centre, France.


Generation: 3

  1. 3.  de Moleynes, William Descendancy chart to this point (2.Margery2, 1.John1) was born in Dec 1405 in Stoke Poges, Buckinghamshire, England; died on 8 May 1429 in Orléans, Loiret, Centre, France.

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    • FSID: LRGH-LCD

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    William Moleyns junior was born in December 1405 and died during the siege of Orleans on 8 May 1429.

    William married on 18 May 1423 in Ewelme, Oxfordshire, England. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

    Children:
    1. 4. de Moleynes, Catherine  Descendancy chart to this point was born in 1424 in Stoke Poges, Buckinghamshire, England; was christened between 1424 and 1465 in Stoke By Nayland, Suffolk, England; died on 3 Nov 1465 in Stoke By Nayland, Suffolk, England; was buried on 22 Nov 1465 in Nayland, Suffolk, England.


Generation: 4

  1. 4.  de Moleynes, Catherine Descendancy chart to this point (3.William3, 2.Margery2, 1.John1) was born in 1424 in Stoke Poges, Buckinghamshire, England; was christened between 1424 and 1465 in Stoke By Nayland, Suffolk, England; died on 3 Nov 1465 in Stoke By Nayland, Suffolk, England; was buried on 22 Nov 1465 in Nayland, Suffolk, England.

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    • Appointments / Titles: Duchess
    • Appointments / Titles: Duchess of Norfolk
    • FSID: LRTH-5LJ

    Catherine married Howard, Lord Duke John in 1440 in England. John (son of Howard, Sir Robert and de Mowbray, Margaret) was born in 1420 in Tendring, Essex, England; died on 22 Aug 1485 in Bosworth Field, Market Bosworth, Leicestershire, England; was buried on 31 Aug 1485 in Thetford Abbey, Thetford, Norfolk, England. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

    Children:
    1. 5. Howard, Lord Duke Thomas I  Descendancy chart to this point was born on 1 Feb 1443 in Stoke By Nayland, Suffolk, England; died on 21 May 1524 in Framlingham Castle, Framlingham, Suffolk, England; was buried on 6 Jul 1524 in Thetford Abbey, Thetford, Norfolk, England.