Notes:

From Hans Dietrich Lemmel:
Conrad? Asinarius - in Bamberg
◆ Parents unknown
◆ (* about? 1185)
◆ The "Asinarius". His 2 sons named Conrad are called "Filii Asinarii" in 1255. (Maybe also father of Friedrich Asinarius?)

Children:
1. Konrad Esler, (* about? 1215) - in Bamberg, mayor Neumarkt, see Eslr-21 / a

2. Konrad, (* about? 1220) - Cunradus Asinarius iunior, see Eslr-21 / t

perhaps:
3. Friedrich Donel, (* about? 1210) - in Bamberg and Nuremberg, see Eslr-21 / f

Regesten:
• 1253, 1264: two brothers of the same name Cunrad filii Asinarii cives Bambergenses.
[Arneth p.242]

• Later, the black donkeys and the red donkeys are differentiated in Bamberg . These may be due to the two brothers of the same name.

Family/Spouse: Unknown. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

Other Events and Attributes:

• Life Event: 1254, Neumarkt, Neumarkt in der Oberpfalz, Bayern, Germany; Mayor

Notes:

From Hans-Dietrich Lemmel:
Konrad Esler in Bamberg, Schultheiss Neumarkt
Father: Conrad? Asinarius
(* about? 1215)

1253-1275 two brothers of the same name in Bamberg. 1254 mayor in Neumarkt.

Children:
1. (Sofie?) Esler N612 , (* about? 1235)
Your first name is not Kunigunde. 11 children.
∞ (about? 1255) with Conrad Stromer
(* about? 1230), † before 20.7.1319
1283-1313 1291 Schöffe in Nuremberg. In 1313 he buys a meadow near Hersbruck. See Stro-22 / a
his parents: Conrad von Reichenbach gen. Stromer N579 , (* about? 1205)
Conrad v.Reichenbach calls himself after his wedding " Stromer" (urk for the first time around 1242). 1267 in Schwabach. Citizen Nuremberg. 33 children from 3 marriages. See Stro-21 / aoo ; ∞ (about? 1230) with (daughter) Stromer N580 , (* about? 1210)

he ∞2) (about? 1300) with Kunigunde / Anna v.Laufenholz N851

(* about? 1280)

2. Rudger, (* about? 1235/1240) - in Nuremberg, see Eslr-22 / a

3. Klara Esler N783 , (* about? 1245)

∞ with Fritz Kudorf N782

(* about? 1240), † 1333

ext. from 1270 See Kudf-22 / e

his father: Konrad von Küdorf Ni10 , (* 1215)
Ritter, 1261 in Nuremberg. See Kudf-21 / e

4. ... Esler N685 , (* about? 1247)
1317: "Konrad Eseler's sister" has 2 sons: Franz and Konrad. Is she a married Gundloch?

∞ with Gundloch Nb59

(* about? 1240)

1296/98 Mr. Withigo / Weyker and Mr. Gundloch his brother. See Gund-21 / e

his father: Gundeloch Nb60 , (* about? 1195)
1231 one of the "domestici" (= "housemates") of the Bamberg cathedral chapter. The same ?: Gundloch 1249-1262 Mayor of Bamberg. See Gund-20 / e

5. Konrad, (* about? 1250) - "the good judge", "the founder", see Eslr-22 / b

6. Gramlieb, (* about? 1257) - in Nuremberg, see Eslr-22 / c

7. ... Esler N604 , (* 1260), † 1310
Sister of the mayor Conrad Esler .

∞ (about? 1282) with Siboto Pfinzing N603

(* about? 1255)

1278, 1282, 1288 mentioned. 1317, 1319 Named. See Pfin-22 / s

his father: Siboto Pfinzing N602 , (* about? 1215)
1251-1266 (Nuremberg Urk'buch) among the first citizens and in the citizens' representation ("universitas civium") mentioned. See Pfin-21 / s ∞1) before 1251 with Anna Ebner N206 (* about? 1230)
∞2) (about 1258) with ... .... H865 (* about? 1235)

he ∞2) (about? 1311) with ... .... N605

(* about? 1280)

unknown second wife of Siboto

8. Gisela Esler N629 , (* about? 1265), † after 1339
sister of the mayor Conrad Esler .

∞ (about? 1287) with Heinz Groß N630

(* about? 1250), † zw 1314/1317

In Nuremberg, first documented 1276-1306. Death between 1314-1317. See Gros-22 / a

his father: Heinz Groß Ni16 , (* about? 1220)
"The grindy Heinz". 1289 in Nuremberg. ∞ with Anna Straß / Strezz from Jahrsdorf. See Gros-21 / a

he ∞1) (about? 1273) with Sofie v. Vestenberg N631

(* about? 1250), † about? 1286

 Children: 1st Bartholomew Great N105 , * (about? 1288), † 1358.2. Philipp Groß N774 , * (about? 1290), † after 1355.3. Franz Pfinzing Nh44 , * (about? 1380).
Regesten:
Summary : In 1253/1275 there are two brothers of the same name in Bamberg called Conrad Eseler , in Latin Chunradus Asinarius . (The terms "older / younger" are not to be understood as father and son.) In Bamberg you have a house "Im Bach" Nr.2001, Vorderer Bach Nr.5. The brothers are called "filii Asinarii" . Her father's name was Asinarius / Eseler .

• Presumably it is the descendants of the two Conrad, which are distinguished from 1392 as black donkey and red rot.

• 1253: Chunradus Asinarius in Bamberg. [Urk.Regesten z.Gesch. the cities of the Hochstift Würzburg 1172-1413, Regesta Herbipolensia III S.9]

• 1255: Chunradus et Chunradus filii Asinarii . [19.BHVB, Bamberg 1856]

• 1264: Cunrado et Cunrado fratribus, dictis Asinariis , civibus ibidem. [Regesta ... Boica ... vol.III, 1825]

• 5.12.1275 immunity representatives: Cunradus senior Asinarius ; Cunradus asinarius antiquus; Conrade Eseler the parent. - 19.11.1276 citizens.

• 5.12.1275 Representatives of Immunities: Cunradus iunior frater eius.
[Officials in the city court and in the immunities in Bamberg 1300-1500, in: Claudia Esch, between institution and individual, civil space for action in medieval Bamberg. Ergon-Verlag Würzburg 2016]
[Notes Fr.Zö. 2018]

• 1254 Konrad Eseler mayor in Neumarkt / OPf.
[Gewin: Bloom and decline of high nobility genders in the Middle Ages, 1955, p.176]

→ Gewin sets this Schultheiß equal with Chunrad v.Dietenhofen , who takes the surname Eseler . Why??? The Nuremberg mayor of 1254 is likely to be more identical to the Bamberg Cunradus Asinarius , whose eponymous son ("the good judge") mayor in Nuremberg and from 1295 also mayor in Neumarkt. (HDL)

• 1253, 1264: two brothers of the same name Cunrad filii Asinarii cives Bambergenses.
[Arneth p.242]

• 1264: The dean and provost of St.Jakob Eberhard of Würzburg records that he and the heirs of the noble, honorable and esteemed brothers Cunrad and Cunrad Asinarius (viris discretis et honestis nobis dilectis Cunrado et Cunrado fratribus Asinariis), citizens of Babenberch with the consent of Prince-Bishop Berthold (Count of Leiningen) and the permanent Vicar of St.Maria Albert (von Rindsmaul), a garden at their house, the extent of which he had confined to fences, as permanent possession.

• It is the house of the Eseler , Nr.2001, Vorderer Bach 5. - Later here: At the time of Bishop Wulfing (1304-1318) Cunz donkey with his wife Alheid.
[H.Paschke: The brook. Festschrift, Bamberg 1956, p. 8]

→ About the Father of Konrad Esler :

• His father: Chunrad v.Dietenhofen gen.Esler . [Threaded]

• Documented since 1253 in Bamberg. 1264 together with his eponymous brother Konrad. [Miracle "Pfintzing the Elders" p.62]

• Miracle does not name a father for this Konrad Esler. He considers Gewin's derivation of the Esler from the Dietenhofen to be outlandish.

• Herbert E. Lemmel ["On the tradition of the donkeys / donkeys in Bamberg and Nuremberg", Genealogy Jg.15 Nov.1966 S.433ff] argues against miracles and for Gewin. The v.Dietenhofen lead a donkey's head in the coat of arms.

• Conrad Esler is through his three children Conrad (whose daughter ∞ with Hermann Eisvogel) , Kunigunde (∞ with Conrad Stromeir) and Rudiger (whose daughter ∞ with Wolfram Stromeir) the progenitor of a tribe Stromer-Eisvogel and others, the trade and mining in the Carpathian region operate.
[Stromer, Hochfinanz, 1970]

→ Error note:

• Conrad Ass's father-in-law is the Bamberger Kämmerer Hartmann .
[Herbert E. Lemmel, "Contribution ....", 116. Ber. d. Hist. Association Bamberg 1980, p.117 = correction to previous publications]

• The chamberlain Hartmann is mentioned in documents 1268-1272.
[Herbert E. Lemmel, "... Gundloch ...", Genealogy Bd.8 Feb.1967 p.581]

→ Hartmann as father-in-law of Conrad donkey should therefore hardly fit in time! (HDL)

Regesten zu (Sofie?) Esler:
• Her first name is given in Biedermann with Kunigunde, which is the first name of Conrad Stromer's second wife.
[Scharr: Forest Streamers p.35]

• At [AL Pusch, DFA 27 1964] their parents are given: Konrad Esler ∞ Anna Pfinzing. - That's wrong for a generation. (HDL)

Regesto to Kunigunde / Anna v.Laufenholz:
• (Kunigunde) v.Laufenholz ∞ with Conrad Stromer , 4 children. She is the sister of Friedrich v.Laufenholz .
[Scharr: Forest Streamers p.35]

• Conrad Stromer ∞2) with Anna v.Laufenholz , 5 children. She is the daughter of Fritz v.Lauffenholz ∞ Anna Eßlerin .
[Biedermann panel 460B Stromer]

Regesta to Klara Esler:
[Scharr: Waldstromer, MVGN 52 p.24, but there no father specified.] Assignment as a daughter of Konrad Esler only, because it fits in time. (HDL)

Regesten zu ... Esler:
• 5.12.1317: Provost Konrad v.Giech gives the Konrad Eseler and Franz and Konrad, his sister's sons, behind the coin a pound of pennies from customs to Bamberg.
[Herbert E. Lemmel, "Gundloch," Genealogy Feb.1967]

→ Is Konrad Esler's sister married to "Mr. Gundloch behind the coin"? (So ​​adopted by Herbert E. Lemmel.) Or who else lives "behind the coin"? (HDL)

Regesten zu ... Esler:
[Miracle, MVGN 49 p.38]
Her death 1310 [AL Pusch, DFA 27 1964]

Regesta to Anna Ebner:
• Not on the board Ebner bei Biedermann.

Regesten too ... ....:
• unknown second wife of Siboto [Wunder S.41]

Regesta to Gisela Esler:
[Miracle MVGN 49 p.38] - [Scharr: Waldstromer, MVGN 52 p. 23]

Regesta to Sofie v. Vestenberg:
• For her was stated: † before 1298. Because of the second marriage of her husband Heinz Gross, she would have died shortly after 1285. (HDL)

• 10.8.1340: Jahrestagstiftung of Konrad Groß for his parents Heinrich and Suffey.
[Miracle p.39 footnote 36]

2018 11 11

Family/Spouse: Unknown. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

Notes:

Konrad Esler N600 - in Bamberg, Schultheiss Neumarkt
Father: Eslr-20 / s Conrad? Asinarius Na75

(* about? 1215)

1253-1275 two brothers of the same name in Bamberg. 1254 mayor in Neumarkt.

Children:
1. (Sofie?) Esler N612 , (* about? 1235)
Your first name is not Kunigunde. 11 children.

∞ (about? 1255) with Conrad Stromer N578

(* about? 1230), † before 20.7.1319

1283-1313 1291 Schöffe in Nuremberg. In 1313 he buys a meadow near Hersbruck. See Stro-22 / a

his parents: Conrad von Reichenbach gen. Stromer N579 , (* about? 1205)
Conrad v.Reichenbach calls himself after his wedding " Stromer" (urk for the first time around 1242). 1267 in Schwabach. Citizen Nuremberg. 33 children from 3 marriages. See Stro-21 / aoo ; ∞ (about? 1230) with (daughter) Stromer N580 , (* about? 1210)
See Stro-21 / a .

he ∞2) (about? 1300) with Kunigunde / Anna v.Laufenholz N851

(* about? 1280)

2. Rudger, (* about? 1235/1240) - in Nuremberg, see Eslr-22 / a

3. Klara Esler N783 , (* about? 1245)

∞ with Fritz Kudorf N782

(* about? 1240), † 1333

ext. from 1270 See Kudf-22 / e

his father: Konrad von Küdorf Ni10 , (* 1215)
Ritter, 1261 in Nuremberg. See Kudf-21 / e

4. ... Esler N685 , (* about? 1247)
1317: "Konrad Eseler's sister" has 2 sons: Franz and Konrad. Is she a married Gundloch?

∞ with Gundloch Nb59

(* about? 1240)

1296/98 Mr. Withigo / Weyker and Mr. Gundloch his brother. See Gund-21 / e

his father: Gundeloch Nb60 , (* about? 1195)
1231 one of the "domestici" (= "housemates") of the Bamberg cathedral chapter. The same ?: Gundloch 1249-1262 Mayor of Bamberg. See Gund-20 / e

5. Konrad, (* about? 1250) - "the good judge", "the founder", see Eslr-22 / b

6. Gramlieb, (* about? 1257) - in Nuremberg, see Eslr-22 / c

7. ... Esler N604 , (* 1260), † 1310
Sister of the mayor Conrad Esler .

∞ (about? 1282) with Siboto Pfinzing N603

(* about? 1255)

1278, 1282, 1288 mentioned. 1317, 1319 Named. See Pfin-22 / s

his father: Siboto Pfinzing N602 , (* about? 1215)
1251-1266 (Nuremberg Urk'buch) among the first citizens and in the citizens' representation ("universitas civium") mentioned. See Pfin-21 / s ∞1) before 1251 with Anna Ebner N206 (* about? 1230)
∞2) (about 1258) with ... .... H865 (* about? 1235)

he ∞2) (about? 1311) with ... .... N605

(* about? 1280)

unknown second wife of Siboto

8. Gisela Esler N629 , (* about? 1265), † after 1339
sister of the mayor Conrad Esler .

∞ (about? 1287) with Heinz Groß N630

(* about? 1250), † zw 1314/1317

In Nuremberg, first documented 1276-1306. Death between 1314-1317. See Gros-22 / a

his father: Heinz Groß Ni16 , (* about? 1220)
"The grindy Heinz". 1289 in Nuremberg. ∞ with Anna Straß / Strezz from Jahrsdorf. See Gros-21 / a

he ∞1) (about? 1273) with Sofie v. Vestenberg N631

(* about? 1250), † about? 1286

 Children: 1st Bartholomew Great N105 , * (about? 1288), † 1358.2. Philipp Groß N774 , * (about? 1290), † after 1355.3. Franz Pfinzing Nh44 , * (about? 1380).
Regesten:
Summary : In 1253/1275 there are two brothers of the same name in Bamberg called Conrad Eseler , in Latin Chunradus Asinarius . (The terms "older / younger" are not to be understood as father and son.) In Bamberg you have a house "Im Bach" Nr.2001, Vorderer Bach Nr.5. The brothers are called "filii Asinarii" . Her father's name was Asinarius / Eseler .

• Presumably it is the descendants of the two Conrad, which are distinguished from 1392 as black donkey and red rot.

• 1253: Chunradus Asinarius in Bamberg. [Urk.Regesten z.Gesch. the cities of the Hochstift Würzburg 1172-1413, Regesta Herbipolensia III S.9]

• 1255: Chunradus et Chunradus filii Asinarii . [19.BHVB, Bamberg 1856]

• 1264: Cunrado et Cunrado fratribus, dictis Asinariis , civibus ibidem. [Regesta ... Boica ... vol.III, 1825]

• 5.12.1275 immunity representatives: Cunradus senior Asinarius ; Cunradus asinarius antiquus; Conrade Eseler the parent. - 19.11.1276 citizens.

• 5.12.1275 Representatives of Immunities: Cunradus iunior frater eius.
[Officials in the city court and in the immunities in Bamberg 1300-1500, in: Claudia Esch, between institution and individual, civil space for action in medieval Bamberg. Ergon-Verlag Würzburg 2016]
[Notes Fr.Zö. 2018]

• 1254 Konrad Eseler mayor in Neumarkt / OPf.
[Gewin: Bloom and decline of high nobility genders in the Middle Ages, 1955, p.176]

→ Gewin sets this Schultheiß equal with Chunrad v.Dietenhofen , who takes the surname Eseler . Why??? The Nuremberg mayor of 1254 is likely to be more identical to the Bamberg Cunradus Asinarius , whose eponymous son ("the good judge") mayor in Nuremberg and from 1295 also mayor in Neumarkt. (HDL)

• 1253, 1264: two brothers of the same name Cunrad filii Asinarii cives Bambergenses.
[Arneth p.242]

• 1264: The dean and provost of St.Jakob Eberhard of Würzburg records that he and the heirs of the noble, honorable and esteemed brothers Cunrad and Cunrad Asinarius (viris discretis et honestis nobis dilectis Cunrado et Cunrado fratribus Asinariis), citizens of Babenberch with the consent of Prince-Bishop Berthold (Count of Leiningen) and the permanent Vicar of St.Maria Albert (von Rindsmaul), a garden at their house, the extent of which he had confined to fences, as a permanent possession.

• It is the house of the Eseler , Nr.2001, Vorderer Bach 5. - Later here: At the time of Bishop Wulfing (1304-1318) Cunz donkey with his wife Alheid.
[H.Paschke: The brook. Festschrift, Bamberg 1956, p. 8]

→ About the Father of Konrad Esler :

• His father: Chunrad v.Dietenhofen gen.Esler . [Threaded]

• Documented since 1253 in Bamberg. 1264 together with his eponymous brother Konrad. [Miracle "Pfintzing the Elders" p.62]

• Miracle does not name a father for this Konrad Esler. He considers Gewin's derivation of the Esler from the Dietenhofen to be outlandish.

• Herbert E. Lemmel ["On the tradition of the donkeys / donkeys in Bamberg and Nuremberg", Genealogy Jg.15 Nov.1966 S.433ff] argues against miracles and for Gewin. The v.Dietenhofen lead a donkey's head in the coat of arms.

• Conrad Esler is through his three children Conrad (whose daughter ∞ with Hermann Eisvogel) , Kunigunde (∞ with Conrad Stromeir) and Rudiger (whose daughter ∞ with Wolfram Stromeir) the progenitor of a tribe Stromer-Eisvogel and others, the trade and mining in the Carpathian region operate.
[Stromer, Hochfinanz, 1970]

→ Error note:

• Conrad Ass's father-in-law is the Bamberger Kämmerer Hartmann .
[Herbert E. Lemmel, "Contribution ....", 116. Ber. d. Hist. Association Bamberg 1980, p.117 = correction to previous publications]

• The chamberlain Hartmann is mentioned in documents 1268-1272.
[Herbert E. Lemmel, "... Gundloch ...", Genealogy Bd.8 Feb.1967 p.581]

→ Hartmann as father-in-law of Conrad donkey should therefore hardly fit in time! (HDL)

Regesten zu (Sofie?) Esler:
• Her first name is given in Biedermann with Kunigunde, which is the first name of Conrad Stromer's second wife.
[Scharr: Forest Streamers p.35]

• At [AL Pusch, DFA 27 1964] their parents are given: Konrad Esler ∞ Anna Pfinzing. - That's wrong for a generation. (HDL)

Regesto to Kunigunde / Anna v.Laufenholz:
• (Kunigunde) v.Laufenholz ∞ with Conrad Stromer , 4 children. She is the sister of Friedrich v.Laufenholz .
[Scharr: Forest Streamers p.35]

• Conrad Stromer ∞2) with Anna v.Laufenholz , 5 children. She is the daughter of Fritz v.Lauffenholz ∞ Anna Eßlerin .
[Biedermann panel 460B Stromer]

Regesta to Klara Esler:
[Scharr: Waldstromer, MVGN 52 p.24, but there no father specified.] Assignment as a daughter of Konrad Esler only, because it fits in time. (HDL)

Regesten zu ... Esler:
• 5.12.1317: Provost Konrad v.Giech gives the Konrad Eseler and Franz and Konrad, his sister's sons, behind the coin a pound of pennies from customs to Bamberg.
[Herbert E. Lemmel, "Gundloch," Genealogy Feb.1967]

→ Is Konrad Esler's sister married to "Mr. Gundloch behind the coin"? (So ​​adopted by Herbert E. Lemmel.) Or who else lives "behind the coin"? (HDL)

Regesten zu ... Esler:
[Miracle, MVGN 49 p.38]
Her death 1310 [AL Pusch, DFA 27 1964]

Regesta to Anna Ebner:
• Not on the board Ebner bei Biedermann.

Regesten too ... ....:
• unknown second wife of Siboto [Wunder S.41]

Regesta to Gisela Esler:
[Miracle MVGN 49 p.38] - [Scharr: Waldstromer, MVGN 52 p. 23]

Regesta to Sofie v. Vestenberg:
• For her was stated: † before 1298. Because of the second marriage of her husband Heinz Gross, she would have died shortly after 1285. (HDL)

• 10.8.1340: Jahrestagstiftung of Konrad Groß for his parents Heinrich and Suffey.
[Miracle p.39 footnote 36]

Sofie married Stromer, Conrad von Reichenbach about 1255 in Nürnberg, Nürnberg, Bayern, Germany. Conrad (son of Stromer, Conrad von Reichenbach and Stromer, N.N.) was born about 1230; died before 20 Jul 1319 in Nürnberg, Nürnberg, Bayern, Germany. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

Notes:

From Hans-Dietrich Lemmel:
Konrad Esler N600 - in Bamberg, Schultheiss Neumarkt
Father: Eslr-20 / s Conrad? Asinarius Na75

(* about? 1215)

1253-1275 two brothers of the same name in Bamberg. 1254 mayor in Neumarkt.

Children:
1. (Sofie?) Esler N612 , (* about? 1235)
Your first name is not Kunigunde. 11 children.

∞ (about? 1255) with Conrad Stromer N578

(* about? 1230), † before 20.7.1319

1283-1313 1291 Schöffe in Nuremberg. In 1313 he buys a meadow near Hersbruck. See Stro-22 / a

his parents: Conrad von Reichenbach gen. Stromer N579 , (* about? 1205)
Conrad v.Reichenbach calls himself after his wedding " Stromer" (urk for the first time around 1242). 1267 in Schwabach. Citizen Nuremberg. 33 children from 3 marriages. See Stro-21 / aoo ; ∞ (about? 1230) with (daughter) Stromer N580 , (* about? 1210)
See Stro-21 / a .

he ∞2) (about? 1300) with Kunigunde / Anna v.Laufenholz N851

(* about? 1280)

2. Rudger, (* about? 1235/1240) - in Nuremberg, see Eslr-22 / a

3. Klara Esler N783 , (* about? 1245)

∞ with Fritz Kudorf N782

(* about? 1240), † 1333

ext. from 1270 See Kudf-22 / e

his father: Konrad von Küdorf Ni10 , (* 1215)
Ritter, 1261 in Nuremberg. See Kudf-21 / e

4. ... Esler N685 , (* about? 1247)
1317: "Konrad Eseler's sister" has 2 sons: Franz and Konrad. Is she a married Gundloch?

∞ with Gundloch Nb59

(* about? 1240)

1296/98 Mr. Withigo / Weyker and Mr. Gundloch his brother. See Gund-21 / e

his father: Gundeloch Nb60 , (* about? 1195)
1231 one of the "domestici" (= "housemates") of the Bamberg cathedral chapter. The same ?: Gundloch 1249-1262 Mayor of Bamberg. See Gund-20 / e

5. Konrad, (* about? 1250) - "the good judge", "the founder", see Eslr-22 / b

6. Gramlieb, (* about? 1257) - in Nuremberg, see Eslr-22 / c

7. ... Esler N604 , (* 1260), † 1310
Sister of the mayor Conrad Esler .

∞ (about? 1282) with Siboto Pfinzing N603

(* about? 1255)

1278, 1282, 1288 mentioned. 1317, 1319 Named. See Pfin-22 / s

his father: Siboto Pfinzing N602 , (* about? 1215)
1251-1266 (Nuremberg Urk'buch) among the first citizens and in the citizens' representation ("universitas civium") mentioned. See Pfin-21 / s ∞1) before 1251 with Anna Ebner N206 (* about? 1230)
∞2) (about 1258) with ... .... H865 (* about? 1235)

he ∞2) (about? 1311) with ... .... N605

(* about? 1280)

unknown second wife of Siboto

8. Gisela Esler N629 , (* about? 1265), † after 1339
sister of the mayor Conrad Esler .

∞ (about? 1287) with Heinz Groß N630

(* about? 1250), † zw 1314/1317

In Nuremberg, first documented 1276-1306. Death between 1314-1317. See Gros-22 / a

his father: Heinz Groß Ni16 , (* about? 1220)
"The grindy Heinz". 1289 in Nuremberg. ∞ with Anna Straß / Strezz from Jahrsdorf. See Gros-21 / a

he ∞1) (about? 1273) with Sofie v. Vestenberg N631

(* about? 1250), † about? 1286

 Children: 1st Bartholomew Great N105 , * (about? 1288), † 1358.2. Philipp Groß N774 , * (about? 1290), † after 1355.3. Franz Pfinzing Nh44 , * (about? 1380).
Regesten:
Summary : In 1253/1275 there are two brothers of the same name in Bamberg called Conrad Eseler , in Latin Chunradus Asinarius . (The terms "older / younger" are not to be understood as father and son.) In Bamberg you have a house "Im Bach" Nr.2001, Vorderer Bach Nr.5. The brothers are called "filii Asinarii" . Her father's name was Asinarius / Eseler .

• Presumably it is the descendants of the two Conrad, which are distinguished from 1392 as black donkey and red rot.

• 1253: Chunradus Asinarius in Bamberg. [Urk.Regesten z.Gesch. the cities of the Hochstift Würzburg 1172-1413, Regesta Herbipolensia III S.9]

• 1255: Chunradus et Chunradus filii Asinarii . [19.BHVB, Bamberg 1856]

• 1264: Cunrado et Cunrado fratribus, dictis Asinariis , civibus ibidem. [Regesta ... Boica ... vol.III, 1825]

• 5.12.1275 immunity representatives: Cunradus senior Asinarius ; Cunradus asinarius antiquus; Conrade Eseler the parent. - 19.11.1276 citizens.

• 5.12.1275 Representatives of Immunities: Cunradus iunior frater eius.
[Officials in the city court and in the immunities in Bamberg 1300-1500, in: Claudia Esch, between institution and individual, civil space for action in medieval Bamberg. Ergon-Verlag Würzburg 2016]
[Notes Fr.Zö. 2018]

• 1254 Konrad Eseler mayor in Neumarkt / OPf.
[Gewin: Bloom and decline of high nobility genders in the Middle Ages, 1955, p.176]

→ Gewin sets this Schultheiß equal with Chunrad v.Dietenhofen , who takes the surname Eseler . Why??? The Nuremberg mayor of 1254 is likely to be more identical to the Bamberg Cunradus Asinarius , whose eponymous son ("the good judge") mayor in Nuremberg and from 1295 also mayor in Neumarkt. (HDL)

• 1253, 1264: two brothers of the same name Cunrad filii Asinarii cives Bambergenses.
[Arneth p.242]

• 1264: The dean and provost of St.Jakob Eberhard of Würzburg records that he and the heirs of the noble, honorable and esteemed brothers Cunrad and Cunrad Asinarius (viris discretis et honestis nobis dilectis Cunrado et Cunrado fratribus Asinariis), citizens of Babenberch with the consent of Prince-Bishop Berthold (Count of Leiningen) and the permanent Vicar of St.Maria Albert (von Rindsmaul), a garden at their house, the extent of which he had confined to fences, as a permanent possession.

• It is the house of the Eseler , Nr.2001, Vorderer Bach 5. - Later here: At the time of Bishop Wulfing (1304-1318) Cunz donkey with his wife Alheid.
[H.Paschke: The brook. Festschrift, Bamberg 1956, p. 8]

→ About the Father of Konrad Esler :

• His father: Chunrad v.Dietenhofen gen.Esler . [Threaded]

• Documented since 1253 in Bamberg. 1264 together with his eponymous brother Konrad. [Miracle "Pfintzing the Elders" p.62]

• Miracle does not name a father for this Konrad Esler. He considers Gewin's derivation of the Esler from the Dietenhofen to be outlandish.

• Herbert E. Lemmel ["On the tradition of the donkeys / donkeys in Bamberg and Nuremberg", Genealogy Jg.15 Nov.1966 S.433ff] argues against miracles and for Gewin. The v.Dietenhofen lead a donkey's head in the coat of arms.

• Conrad Esler is through his three children Conrad (whose daughter ∞ with Hermann Eisvogel) , Kunigunde (∞ with Conrad Stromeir) and Rudiger (whose daughter ∞ with Wolfram Stromeir) the progenitor of a tribe Stromer-Eisvogel and others, the trade and mining in the Carpathian region operate.
[Stromer, Hochfinanz, 1970]

→ Error note:

• Conrad Ass's father-in-law is the Bamberger Kämmerer Hartmann .
[Herbert E. Lemmel, "Contribution ....", 116. Ber. d. Hist. Association Bamberg 1980, p.117 = correction to previous publications]

• The chamberlain Hartmann is mentioned in documents 1268-1272.
[Herbert E. Lemmel, "... Gundloch ...", Genealogy Bd.8 Feb.1967 p.581]

→ Hartmann as father-in-law of Conrad donkey should therefore hardly fit in time! (HDL)

Regesten zu (Sofie?) Esler:
• Her first name is given in Biedermann with Kunigunde, which is the first name of Conrad Stromer's second wife.
[Scharr: Forest Streamers p.35]

• At [AL Pusch, DFA 27 1964] their parents are given: Konrad Esler ∞ Anna Pfinzing. - That's wrong for a generation. (HDL)

Regesto to Kunigunde / Anna v.Laufenholz:
• (Kunigunde) v.Laufenholz ∞ with Conrad Stromer , 4 children. She is the sister of Friedrich v.Laufenholz .
[Scharr: Forest Streamers p.35]

• Conrad Stromer ∞2) with Anna v.Laufenholz , 5 children. She is the daughter of Fritz v.Lauffenholz ∞ Anna Eßlerin .
[Biedermann panel 460B Stromer]

Regesta to Klara Esler:
[Scharr: Waldstromer, MVGN 52 p.24, but there no father specified.] Assignment as a daughter of Konrad Esler only, because it fits in time. (HDL)

Regesten zu ... Esler:
• 5.12.1317: Provost Konrad v.Giech gives the Konrad Eseler and Franz and Konrad, his sister's sons, behind the coin a pound of pennies from customs to Bamberg.
[Herbert E. Lemmel, "Gundloch," Genealogy Feb.1967]

→ Is Konrad Esler's sister married to "Mr. Gundloch behind the coin"? (So ​​adopted by Herbert E. Lemmel.) Or who else lives "behind the coin"? (HDL)

Regesten zu ... Esler:
[Miracle, MVGN 49 p.38]
Her death 1310 [AL Pusch, DFA 27 1964]

Regesta to Anna Ebner:
• Not on the board Ebner bei Biedermann.

Regesten too ... ....:
• unknown second wife of Siboto [Wunder S.41]

Regesta to Gisela Esler:
[Miracle MVGN 49 p.38] - [Scharr: Waldstromer, MVGN 52 p. 23]

Regesta to Sofie v. Vestenberg:
• For her was stated: † before 1298. Because of the second marriage of her husband Heinz Gross, she would have died shortly after 1285. (HDL)

• 10.8.1340: Jahrestagstiftung of Konrad Groß for his parents Heinrich and Suffey.
[Miracle p.39 footnote 36]

Klara married Pfinzing, Siboto about 1282 in Nürnberg, Nürnberg, Bayern, Germany. Siboto (son of Pfinzing, Siboto and Ebner, Anna) was born about 1255 in Nürnberg, Nürnberg, Bayern, Germany; died after 1319 in Nürnberg, Nürnberg, Bayern, Germany. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

Gisela married Groß, Heinz about 1287 in Nürnberg, Nürnberg, Bayern, Germany. Heinz (son of Groß, Heinz and Straß, Anna) was born about 1250 in Nürnberg, Nürnberg, Bayern, Germany; died between 1314 and 1317 in Nürnberg, Nürnberg, Bayern, Germany. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

Alheit married von Stein, Hermann in UNKNOWN. Hermann was born about 1255 in Germany; died in DECEASED in Germany. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

Other Events and Attributes:

• FSID: 9CFJ-GNW

Notes:

From Hans-Dietrich Lemmel

Heinrich Stromer - in Nuremberg on the Salzmarkt
◆ Parents: Conrad Stromer and Sofie Esler
◆ (* about? 1270)
◆ † 30.4.1347 in Nuremberg
◆ 1313: Mr. Hainrich, Mr. Conrat Stromeir's son. 1323 at the salt market.
◆ ∞1) (about? 1291) with (Kunigunde) Gnatznapf who was (* about? 1272); she had 8 children with Stromer. Her father: Konrad Glatznapf who was (* about? 1255), † 1329, 1316 councilman in Nuremberg. ∞ with Adelheid....
◆ ∞2) (about? 1324) with Margarete Geusmid who was (* about? 1295), † 24.11.1350. Her parents: Heinrich Geusmid, (* about? 1265), 1298-1336 documentary, ∞ Margret ... 1306 mayor.; ∞ with Margarete Gross, (* about? 1274).

Children:
from 1st marriage:
1 Peter, * 1292 - politician, inventor of softwood seeds,
2 Conrad Stromeir, (* about? 1300) - at the Milchmarkt in Nuremberg,
3 Margarete Stromer N871 , (* about? 1310/1315), † 1350
⁃ ∞ (about? 1330/1335) with Albrecht Behaim who was * 1288, † 1359
⁃ Councilman in Nuremberg.
⁃ his parents: Albrecht Behaim, * 6.2.1250, † 6.10.1342 in Nuremberg, 92 years old; merchant in Nuremberg, the spices from Venice moved. Since 1288 in the council, mayor of several times; ∞ 1.10.1280 with Ursula Kingfisher, (* about? 1262), † 25.5.1328 in Nuremberg St. Cath ..; he ∞1) (about? 1315) with Agnes Ebner (* about? 1291); he ∞3) after 1350 with Cunegunda Weigel; (* about? 1320)
4 Heinrich Stromeir, (* about? 1315/1320), † between 1350/1355; childless. ∞ with Gerhaus Koler who was (* about? 1325) and Died without children.
⁃ her parents: Erkenbrecht Koler N671 , (* about? 1280), † probably 1340 1311 Schultheiß, from 1315 Schöffe in Nuremberg. ; ∞2) (about? 1325) with Gerhaus Pfinzing, (* ca.? 1304) erw. 1335/1360, wife, then widow of Erkenbrecht Koler; her son Erkenbrecht. ( Sie ∞2) (about? 1341) with Otto Coler gen.Forstmeister, (* about? 1305), † 11.4.1351 ) .

from 2nd marriage:
5 Cunrat Stromer N820 , (* about? 1325), † 1398 in Milan
6 Franz, (* about? 1327) - in Nuremberg,
7 Ulman / Ulrich, * 6.1.1329 - wholesale merchant in Nuremberg,
8 Andreas, (* about? 1330) - alderman in Nuremberg.,

Regesten:
◆ Has 18 children out of 2 marriages. [G.Wunder: "Pfintzing" MVGN 52 p.20,37]
◆ Councilor Nuremberg, † 1346, ∞1) daughter of Conrad Glaßnapf ; ∞2) 1298 Margaret Geuschmidt , † 1350, daughter of Heinrich Geuschmidt , imperial mayor.
◆ From his first marriage: Peter * 1292; Heinrich; Marg. ∞ Behaim ; the nuns Agnes, Clara, Gerhauss; Conrad.
◆ Second marriage: Albrecht unmarried; Erhard ∞ Volkamer ; Nuns Margarete, Catharina and two daughters without giving their first name; Andreas; Franz; Ulmann; Conrad † 1358 in Mayland. [Biedermann panel 462 B] [Scharr: Waldstromer, MVGN 52 p.20, 37]
◆ Children: [Stromer: Hochfinanz]
◆ → Birthdays and order of children estimated by me. Further details and children see [Biedermann panel 462B]. Marg. Geuschmidt states here: "married in the year 1298". This year can not be correct. 1298 is at most the marriage of Marg. Geuschmidt's parents. The first wife had 8 children, with Peter born in 1292 arguably as the oldest. Since the second marriage may have been impossible in 1298. (HDL)

Regesten zu (Kunigunde) Gnatznapf:
◆ (Kunigunde), Tv Conrad Glatznapf ∞ Adelheid. [Scharr: Forest Streamers p.38]

Regesta to Konrad Glatznapf:
◆ Konrad Glatznapf ∞ Adelheid. [Scratching]
◆ Conrad glass bowl , 1316 council man in Nuremberg, † 1329. [B.Aign: AL tin, Gen.Jahrbuch Bd.45 / 46 2008]
◆ 1303/1313: Albert " Kruter " of Nuremberg and Konrad "Gnasnapf" , his father, have to fief the village Hennenbach (district Ansbach) ... [Internet database 2013 Hochstift Würzburg Lehenbuch 1303-1313]

Regesta to Margarete Geusmid:
◆ [Scharr: Forest Streamers p.38]

Regesta to Margarete Gross:
◆ Bullemer suspects that Margret, the wife of Heinrich Geusmid , is the daughter of Heinz Groß . [Bullemer, Great]
◆ Age-appropriate, she can only come from the first marriage of Heinz Gross (HDL).

Regesta to Heinrich Stromeir:
◆ [Scharr: Waldstromer p.39]

Regests to Gerhaus Koler:
◆ Gerhaus, Erkenbrecht Kolers daughter, has Heinrich Stromer . In 1374 she buys Leibding to Franz, Franz Stromer's son, and to Uhlein, Erkenbrecht Koler's son. [Miracle: Col. p.148]
◆ Gerhauß Colerin called Forstmeisterin , died without children, ∞ Herr Heinrich Stromer , † 1348. [Biedermann Tafel 599]

Regesten to Cunrat Stromer:
◆ Conrad junior Stromer von Reichenbach died in Milan around the year 1358 and was buried there in the choir by the barefoot.
◆ [Biedermann Plate 462 B] No further information. The badly printed year could be called 1398. (HDL)

Heinrich married Geusmid, Margarete about 1324 in Nürnberg, Nürnberg, Bayern, Germany. Margarete (daughter of Geusmid, Heinrich and Groß, Margaret) was born about 1295 in Nürnberg, Nürnberg, Bayern, Germany; died on 24 Nov 1350 in Nürnberg, Nürnberg, Bayern, Germany. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

Heinrich married Gnaßnapf, Kunigunde in 1291 in Nürnberg, Nürnberg, Bayern, Germany. Kunigunde (daughter of Glaßnapf, Konrad and Glaßnapf, Adelheid) was born about 1272 in Nürnberg, Nürnberg, Bayern, Germany; died in DECEASED in Nürnberg, Nürnberg, Bayern, Germany. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

Other Events and Attributes:

• Birth: 1289, Nürnberg, Nürnberg, Bayern, Germany

Agnes married Ortlieb, Heinrich in 1317 in Nürnberg, Nürnberg, Bayern, Germany. Heinrich (son of Ortlieb, N.N. and Krauter, Anna) was born about 1270 in Nürnberg, Nürnberg, Bayern, Germany; died in 1343 in Nürnberg, Nürnberg, Bayern, Germany. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

Notes:

"The long, before the preachers"

Jutta married Holzschuher, Friedrich about 1275 in Nürnberg, Nürnberg, Bayern, Germany. Friedrich (son of Holzschuher, Heinrich and von Gründlach, Ellisabeth) was born about 1250 in Nürnberg, Nürnberg, Bayern, Germany; died on 20 Mar 1339 in Nürnberg, Nürnberg, Bayern, Germany; was buried on 23 Mar 1339 in Ebrach, Bamberg, Bayern, Germany. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

Jutta married Holzschuher, N.N. in UNKNOWN. N.N. was born in UNKNOWN; died in DECEASED. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

Notes:

From Hans-Dietrich Lemmel:
Siboto Pfinzing - in Nuremberg
Father: Siboto Pfincinch

(* about? 1255)

1278, 1282, 1288 mentioned. 1317, 1319 Named.

∞1) (about? 1282) with ... Esler N604

(* about? 1260), † 1310

Sister of the mayor Conrad Esler .

her father: Konrad Esler N600 , (* 1215)
documented in 1253 in Bamberg. 1276 with his son Konrad citizen to Bamberg. See Eslr-21 / a

∞2) (about? 1311) with ... .... N605

(* about? 1280)

unknown second wife of Siboto

Children:
from 1st marriage:
1. Konrad, (* about? 1283) - In Nuremberg, mayor, see Pfin-23 / s

2. Hans, (* about? 1285) - in Nuremberg, at Heumarkt, see Pfin-23 / t

3. Michael, (* about? 1288) - in Nuremberg, see Pfin-23 / u

4. Margarete Pfinzing Nk29 , (* about? 1290)

∞ 1310 with Friedrich Behaim N399

* 1285, † 1365

Losunger in Nuremberg. See Beh-23 / a

his parents: Albrecht Behaim N731 , * 6.2.1250, † 6.10.1342 in Nuremberg, 92 years old
merchant in Nuremberg, the spices from Venice moved. Since 1288 in the council, mayor of several times. See Beh-22 / a ; ∞ 1.10.1280 with Ursula Kingfisher N732 , (* about? 1262), † 25.5.1328 in Nuremberg St. Cath ..

5. Agnes Pfinzing N606 , (* about? 1300/1305), † 26.2.1357

∞ (about? 1325) with Konrad Waldstromeyr N607

(* about? 1305), † 5.11.1360

1343-1360 mentioned. See Wstr-24 / a

his parents: Konrad Waldstromer N609 , (* about? 1275), † 28.12.1357
He is first called Stromer . After being loaned to the Nuremberg Forestry Office, he is alternately called Stromer and Waldstromer . "Konrad III". See Wstr-23 / a ; ∞ with Catharina Groß N771 , (* about? 1282), † after 1343
(sister of the mayor Conrad Groß) .

from 2nd marriage:
6. Kunigunde Pfinzing Nn62 , (* about? 1310)

∞ with Jacob Weigel N644

(* about? 1305), † before 1379

1340-1376. See Weig-24 / v

his parents: Stefan Weigel N807 , (* about? 1275), † before 1321
1308, 1311 mentioned. Imperial administrator of the Hofmark Berngau. Reichsgut Eschenau. See Weig-23 / w ; ∞ with Offnay v.Heimburg N808 , (* about? 1285), † after 1352
1321-1352 as a widow ..

7. Berchtold, (* about? 1315) - at the Milchmarkt in Nuremberg, see Pfin-23 / w

Regesten:
• Sibot Pfinzing , 1278 and 1288 (until 1319)

• Son of Sibot

• ∞1) with the sister of the mayor Conrad Esler

• ∞2) with....
[A.Scharr: The ans. Citizen of Nuremberg, in: Gen.Jb. Vol.3 1963 p.14]

• 1278 witnesses: Conrad Schultheiß of Nuremberg, Sifrid Ebner , Cunrad and Sibot Pfinzing , Heinrich Holzschuher .
[Nuremberg Yearbooks Vol. 1-2, 1834, p.55]

• Siboto Phinzing , brother of Konrad, 1278-1288 in the Nuremberg Charterbook .

• Ulman Stromer : A sister of the "good judge" Konrad Esler was married to "Sebot Pfinzing , who was Hansen's father and Michel Pfinzing's father".

• Probably identical to: Siboto Pfinzing , 1317 and 1319 among the named of the Nuremberg Council.

• To Sibotos sons. A sibling (after 1396): Cunrat Pfinczig at the stok, Sulteiss, Hans Pfinczig his brother at the hewmarkt, Michel Pfinczig his brother at the preachers.,

• 16.2.1343: The mayor Konrad Groß calls Cunrad, Hans and Michel Pfinzing (ie Sibotos sons) his Oheime.

• Sebot Pfinzing and the Eslerin have the four siblings as grandchildren: 1) Cunrat, Hans Hainrich, Jakob Waltstromer and brother of the Apt zu Helsbrunn and her sister Franz Forstmeisterin ; 2) Cunrat Pfintzig and his brother Perholt; 3) Markart and Fritz Pfintzig and their brother (Heinrich) zu Babenberg; 4) Sebolt Pfintzig , who has the Vorchtels daughter. These are the around 1385/1387 living relatives of Ulman Stromer .
[Miracle, MVGN 49, pp. 37-39]

→ This Siboto is missing from Biedermann. There in Plate 393 there is a Siboto, which is recorded from 1253, and as its alleged son a Siboto, who died in 1379. The younger one is not a son but the great-grandson of the older one. (HDL)

Regesten zu ... Esler:
[Miracle, MVGN 49 p.38]
Her death 1310 [AL Pusch, DFA 27 1964]

Regesten too ... ....:
• unknown second wife of Siboto [Wunder S.41]

Regesten to Agnes Pfinzing:
→ The parents of this Agnes Pfinzing are wrongly stated at Biedermann:

• Conrad Waldstromer , 1356 founder of the Pilgrim's Hospital, † 5.11.1360, ∞ Agnes Pfinzing , † 26.2.1357, Tv Berthold Pfinzing , knight and imperial council, ∞ Agnes Irrer .
[Biedermann panel 546 Waldstromer]

→ In the Pfinzing table 496 Biedermann indicates that the Agnes Pfinzing daughter of Berthold died in 1357, which is hardly possible in time (HDL).

• Agnes Waldstromer born. Pfinzing is the dam of a children's series, which, according to Ulman Stromer, must be the grandson of Sebot Pfinzing from his first marriage with the esler .
[Miracle: Pfinzing p.39]

→ The Eslerin dies in 1310. She must have been around 35/40 when she got the daughter Agnes around 1300/1305, who then married Konrad Waldstromer . Their children may then have been born approximately in the period 1325/1340. (HDL)

→ Ulman Stromer reports that the children of Agnesoo Waldstromer are grandsons of the Eslerin . Wunder [S.41] says that Agnes must come from the second marriage of Siboto, so that their children, contrary to Ulman Stromer's opinion, can be stepchildren and not grandchildren of the Eslerin . I would like to follow this, because it is quite possible in time, that Agnes is a late daughter of the donkey (HDL).

Regesten to Kunigunde Pfinzing:
• Jakob Weigel s wife Kunigunde is the daughter of Siboto Pfinzing from his first marriage to the sister of the mayor Conrad Esler . Her daughter Clara Weigel ∞ with Georg Ammann .
[Scharr: Waldstromer 52.MVGN 1962/63 p.30]

→ She may have been born about 1305 (HDL).

→ See also Kunigunde Pfinzing (Tv Pfin-24 / e Bertold) ∞ Seifrid Weigel , Weig-25 / g .

Margarete married Behaim, Friedrich on 19 Jan 1310 in Nürnberg, Nürnberg, Bayern, Germany. Friedrich (son of Behaim, Albrecht and Eisvogel, Ursula) was born on 25 Jan 1285 in Nürnberg, Nürnberg, Bayern, Germany; died on 14 Jun 1365 in Nürnberg, Nürnberg, Bayern, Germany; was buried after 14 Jun 1365 in St Catherine Church, Nürnberg, Nürnberg, Bayern, Germany. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

Notes:

From Hans-Dietrich Lemmel:

Michael Pfinzing - in Nuremberg
◆ Parents: Siboto Pfinzing and N.N. Esler
◆ Born about 1288, † 1345
◆ In Nuremberg, 1319-1337.
◆ ∞ with Agnes Behaim
⁃ * 1290

her parents: Albrecht Behaim N731 , * 6.2.1250, † 6.10.1342 in Nuremberg, 92 years old
Kaufmann in Nuremberg, the spices from Venice moved. Since 1288 in the council, mayor of several times. See Beh-22 / a ; ∞ 1.10.1280 with Ursula Kingfisher N732 , (* about? 1262), † 25.5.1328 in Nuremberg St. Cath ..

Children:
1. Seibolt, (* about? 1315) -, see Pfin-24 / u

2. Michael, (* about? 1318) - in Nuremberg, see Pfin-24 / v

3rd Cunz Pfinzing Nm22 , (* about? 1320)

4. (daughter) Pfinzing H552 , (* about? 1325)

∞ with Franz Haller H551

(* about? 1335), † 1391

his parents: Franz Haller H106 , (* about? 1310), † 1371 in Nuremberg St.Sebald
1345 in the Council. See Hall-22 / u ; ∞2) with Anna Stiebar H190 , (* about? 1315)
Tv Conrad Stiebar , Hochfürst. Bamb. Hofmeister ..

Regesten:
• Michel Pfinzing , son of Siboto, 1319, 1324, 1335, 1337 in the Nuremberg charter book. In Nuremberg with the preachers.

• Sons: Sebold, "who has the Vorchtels daughter"; as well as "Cuncz Michel Pfinzing" .

• Ulman Stromer: Cunrat Pfinczig at the stok sulteiss, Hans Pfinczig his brother at the hewmarkt, Michel Pfinczig his brother (at the preaching).

• 1343: The mayor Konrad Groß calls Cunrad, Hans and Michel Pfinzig his unmarried .
[Miracles p.39ff]

• 19.10.1325: Fritz Geusmid (nephew of Heinrich? - HDL), who is now "full age", gives his third of the "Eigengut am Weinmarkt an der Brunnen" to Seifried Holzschuher . Mayor Conrad Pfinzing ; Witnesses: Heinrich Geusmid , Seifried Ebner , Weigel - son of Conrad Weigel , Michael Pfinzing .
[CityA Nbg. on-line]

• ∞ Agnes Behaim .

• Senator Nuremberg, † 1345, buried in the choir of St. Catherine's Monastery. Children: Michael, died unmarried; (Daughter) ∞ Franz Haller , † 1391. (No son Sebold!)
[Biedermann Tafel 394]

→ Error note: In [Biedermann plate 394] this Michael is erroneously stated as the son of Berthold Pf.

Regesta to Agnes Behaim:
[Biedermann T.2]

Regesta to Ursula Eisvogel:
• Ursula Eißvogelin ∞ Albrecht Behaim . Her daughter Agnes ∞ Michael Pfinzing .
[Biedermann panel 394 Pfinzing]

[Date of death according to AL Frotscher]

Regesten zu Cunz Pfinzing:
• Ulman Stromer: "Cunz Michel Pfinczing" .
[Miracle p.42]

Regesta to Franz Haller:
• Frantz Haller , Sv Frantz, Senator, † 1391, without children.

• ∞ with a daughter of Senator Michael Pfinzing ∞ Agnes Behaim .
[Biedermann panel 103 B Haller]

Michael married Behaim, Agnes in UNKNOWN in Nürnberg, Nürnberg, Bayern, Germany. Agnes (daughter of Behaim, Albrecht and Eisvogel, Ursula) was born in 1290 in Nürnberg, Nürnberg, Bayern, Germany; died in 1344 in Nürnberg, Nürnberg, Bayern, Germany. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

Konrad married Zollner named Geyer, Agnes about 1310 in Bamberg, Bamberg, Bayern, Germany. Agnes (daughter of Geyer, Friedrich and Zoellner, Agnes) was born about 1295 in Bamberg, Bamberg, Bayern, Germany; died on 13 Aug 1342 in Bamberg, Bamberg, Bayern, Germany. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]