verch Thomas, Lady Margaret

Female 1444 - 1499  (55 years)


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Generation: 1

  1. 1.  verch Thomas, Lady Margaret was born in 1444 in Manordeilo, Carmarthenshire, Wales; died on 26 Mar 1499 in Abergavenny, Monmouthshire, Wales; was buried in Mar 1499 in Abergavenny, Monmouthshire, Wales.

    Other Events and Attributes:

    • FSID: LZG3-Y5F

    Margaret married Hearle, John in 1497 in Breconshire, Wales. John was born in 1466 in Prideaux Place, Padstow, Cornwall, England; was christened in 1466 in Prideaux Place, Padstow, Cornwall, England; died in 1547 in Wales; was buried in 1547 in Wales. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

    Margaret married Herbert, Sir Richard in 1454 in Coldbrook, Monmouthshire, Wales. Richard (son of Herbert, Howel ap Thomas and verch Dafydd Gam, Gwladys) was born in 1423 in Raglan Castle, Raglan, Monmouthshire, Wales; died on 27 Jul 1469 in Edgecote Moor, Banbury, Oxfordshire, England; was buried on 5 Aug 1469 in Tintern Abbey, Tintern, Monmouthshire, Wales. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

    Children:
    1. 2. Herbert, Sir William Thomas  Descendancy chart to this point was born in 1465 in Coldbrook, Monmouthshire, Wales; died in 1540 in Crickhowell, Breconshire, Wales.


Generation: 2

  1. 2.  Herbert, Sir William ThomasHerbert, Sir William Thomas Descendancy chart to this point (1.Margaret1) was born in 1465 in Coldbrook, Monmouthshire, Wales; died in 1540 in Crickhowell, Breconshire, Wales.

    Other Events and Attributes:

    • FSID: LR9B-QJC

    Notes:

    Richard and Margaret had three sons, one of whom was William Herbert, 1st Earl of Pembroke, who became the 1st Earl of Pembroke (2nd Creation) on 11 October 1551. Existing Earls of Pembroke and Montgomery, and of Carnarvon, of the Duke of Powis, of Pool Castle (extinct 1747), descend from Sir Richard Herbert. Through the female line, of the Marquis of Bute, derives his Glamorganshire estates. William married Anne Parr, sister of Queen Catherine Parr, the sixth and last wife of Henry VIII. William served Henry VIII in many capacities, including Chief Gentleman on the Privy Chamber and the Privy Council and Receiver of the King's revenues. He was knighted in 1544 and later elected to the Knights of the Garter. The other son was Sir George Herbert of Swansea was ancestor to the Herberts of Swansea, Cogan, Cookham and the White Friars, extinct in 1739. Candleston Castle passed from Richard and Margaret to George.

    From the Annals and Antiquites of the Counties and County families of Wales
    Herberts of Crickhowel.

    The beginning of the Herberts of Crickhowel was with William Herbert, illegitimate son (as Jones, Hist. Brec, and the St. Mark's Coll. MS., say) of Sir Richard Herbert, of Colebrook, near Abergavenny, 2nd brother of William, 1st Earl of Pembroke. William married Anne, daughter of Jenkin Walbeoffe, and in part through the lands obtained by this marriage, but principally in the capacity of steward of Lord Herbert's large possessions in these parts, he came to reside at Crickhowel. His son, Watkin Herbert, Esq., married Margaret, daughter of Morgan Thomas. [Watkin Herbert was Sheriff 1540.]

    Edward Herbert, his son, in. Elizabeth, daughter of Edward Lewis of Van, Esq.: "sa. a lion rampant, arg. in a bordure gabonated, or, gu." His son and heir,—
    William Herbert, Esq. [of Crickhowel, Sheriff 1546], m. Mary, daughter of Dr. William Awbrey, LL.D.: az. a chevron between 3 eagles' heads, erased, or. Note.—Herbert of Crughowel's Arms are bordered, vert, bezanted. William Herbert had three sons :—

    1. Edward Herbert, Esq. [of Crickhowel, Sheriff 1566], m. [Anne,] daughter of John Jeffreys [of Abercynrig], and had a son Walter [living when St. Mark's Coll. MS. was written].

    2. Sir John Herbert, Kt, 2nd son, »»....

    3. Henry Herbert, 3rd son, m. a daughter of Edward Williams, of Llangattwg, and had a son Edward, who m. a daughter and a co-h. of Edward Games, of Buckland [living when the St. Mark's Coll. MS. was written].

    So far the MS. The days of the Herberts of Crughowel were now nearly passing away; twice or thrice more the name appears in the list of Breconshire Sheriffs:—" John Herbert" in 1634, and again two years running, 1640, 1641; and "Sir John Herbert, of Crickhowel, Kt.," probably the same person, in 1662, and then disappears finally from that list. Sir John Herbert died A.d. 1666, leaving but a daughter, who m. William de Hunt, Esq., Sergeant at Law.

    The castellated mansion of the Herberts at Crickhowel must have been one of some magnificence. No part of the house now remains, but its site is ascertained by the old gateway, of decorated Gothic, at the entrance to the quadrangle, which still stands uninjured, and goes under the appropriate name of Porthmawr—the Great Gate. This beautiful archway is a puzzle to the passer by and to many writers of guide-books, for its expression is undeniably antique, while the house to which it is now attached, and which has been baptized with the name of the Old Gateway, is modern, and out of character with the style. Jones tells us that in his time the archway was called Cwrt Garu>, or more correctly, as he thought, Cwrt y Carw, or the Stag's Court; but for neither the one nor the other does he give a reason. Porthmawr, therefore, must be a very recent name.

    Family/Spouse: Walbeoffe, Anne. Anne (daughter of Walbeoffe, Jenkin and Walbeoffe, Mrs Jenkin) was born in 1508 in Skenfrith, Monmouthshire, Wales; died in DECEASED in Wales. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

    Children:
    1. 3. Herbert, Watkin  Descendancy chart to this point was born in 1517 in Skenfrith, Monmouthshire, Wales; died in 1564 in Monmouthshire, Wales; was buried in 1564 in Newport Catherdral of St Woollos, Newport, Monmouthshire, Wales.


Generation: 3

  1. 3.  Herbert, WatkinHerbert, Watkin Descendancy chart to this point (2.William2, 1.Margaret1) was born in 1517 in Skenfrith, Monmouthshire, Wales; died in 1564 in Monmouthshire, Wales; was buried in 1564 in Newport Catherdral of St Woollos, Newport, Monmouthshire, Wales.

    Other Events and Attributes:

    • Appointments / Titles: Sir Knight
    • Nickname: Walter
    • Appointments / Titles: Between 1541 and 1542; High Sherriff of Breconshire
    • Appointments / Titles: Between 1547 and 1548; High Sheriff of Breconshire
    • Appointments / Titles: Between 1551 and 1552; High Sheriff of Monmouthshire
    • Will: 9 Mar 1551
    • Appointments / Titles: 1558; Member of Parliment for Breconshire

    Notes:

    From the History of Parliment

    ConstituencyDates
    BRECONSHIRE
    1558
    Family and Education
    b. by 1517, s. of William Thomas Herbert of Crickhowel by a da. of Jenkin Melyf. m. Margaret, da. of Morgan Thomas Hir, at least 1s.1

    Offices Held
    Sheriff, Brec. 1541-2, 1547-8, Mon. 1551-2; commr. subsidy, Brec. 1543, relief 1550, goods of churches and fraternities 1553; j.p. 1555, q. 1558/59-64.2

    Biography
    The Herbert family of Crickhowel was of illegitimate descent from Sir Richard Herbert (d.1469) of Coldbrook, Monmouthshire, brother of the then Earl of Pembroke. Walter Herbert, who was also known by the diminutive Watkin, is to be distinguished from a namesake of Brecon who was a justice in 1543 and commissioner in 1550, with Herbert, for the collection of the third part of the relief. It is clear from later evidence that it was Walter Herbert of Crickhowel who in March 1538 leased for £42 a year all the mills in the lordship of Brecon and fishery rights in the Neath and Tawe rivers. As Watkin Herbert he became the second sheriff of the new county of Brecon: he was to serve a second term there and one in Monmouthshire. He sued out a general pardon at the accession of Mary and was involved in litigation for debt at the great sessions in 1554. Of the circumstances of his return to the last Parliament of the reign, or of the part which he played in it, nothing has been discovered.3

    At Elizabeth’s accession Herbert again secured a general pardon, and his dependability was shown by his being put on the quorum of the Breconshire bench. After 1564 nothing more is heard of him, no will or inquisition surviving.4

    Ref Volumes: 1509-1558
    Author: P. S. Edwards
    Notes
    1. Date of birth estimated from first reference. Dwnn. Vis. Wales, ii. 37; Harl. ch. 111 B26; Cat. Mss Wales (Cymmrod. rec. ser. iv), 588.
    2. E179/219/29; CPR, 1553, pp. 364419; 1563-6, p. 29; SP11/5/6.
    3. G. T. Clark, Limbus Patrum Morganiae, 301; C193/12/1; LP Hen. VIII, xiii, xix; CPR, CPR, 1553, p. 364; 1555-7, p. 484; NLW ms Wales 17/5.
    4.CPR, 1558-60, p. 193.

    Watkin Herbert
    From GENi

    Watkin Herbert
    Birthdate: 1525
    Birthplace: Monmouthshire, Wales, United Kingdom
    Death: (Date and location unknown)

    Immediate Family:
    Father:
    Charles Herbert
    Mother:
    Elizabeth Herbert
    Spouse:
    Catrin verch Thomas
    Children:
    Gwenllian Thomas;
    Alice Herbert;
    Blanche Herbert;
    Catherine Herbert;
    Charles Herbert;
    3 others
    Siblings:
    Blanche Herbert;
    Joan Herbert:
    John Herbert

    Occupation:
    Sheriff of Monmouthshire in 1552

    Watkin married Thomas, Margaret in 1557 in Skenfrith, Monmouthshire, Wales. Margaret (daughter of Thomas, Morgan) was born in 1536 in Skenfrith, Monmouthshire, Wales; died in 1580 in Monmouthshire, Wales. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

    Children:
    1. 4. Herbert, Gwenllian  Descendancy chart to this point was born in 1558 in Skenfrith, Monmouthshire, Wales; died in 1584 in Swansea, Glamorgan, Wales; was buried in 1584 in Swansea, Glamorgan, Wales.


Generation: 4

  1. 4.  Herbert, Gwenllian Descendancy chart to this point (3.Watkin3, 2.William2, 1.Margaret1) was born in 1558 in Skenfrith, Monmouthshire, Wales; died in 1584 in Swansea, Glamorgan, Wales; was buried in 1584 in Swansea, Glamorgan, Wales.

    Other Events and Attributes:

    • FSID: L6KX-N2L

    Notes:

    Gwenllian Thomas
    From GENi

    Gwenllian Thomas (Herbert)
    Birthdate: 1558 (26)
    Birthplace: Monmouth, Wales
    Death: Died 1584 in England, United Kingdom

    Immediate Family:
    Father:
    Watkin Herbert;
    Catrin verch Thomas
    Spouse:
    John ap Philip Thomas
    Children:
    Rice Thomas;
    Evan Thomas
    Siblings:
    Alice Herbert;
    Blanche Herbert;
    Catherine Herbert;
    Charles Herbert;
    Elizabeth Herbert;
    Mary Herbert;
    Maud Herbert

    Born in 1558 - Skenfrith, Monmouthshire, Wales Deceased (Unknown)
    Parents
    Watkin Herbert ca 1522-1555/ Catrin verch Thomas ca 1526-
    Spouses and children
    Married to John Philip ap Thomas 1554- with M Evan Thomas 1580-

    Gwenllian married Thomas, John Phillip in 1578 in Swansea, Glamorgan, Wales. John (son of ap Gruffydd, Thomas and Scudamore, Sybill) was born in 1554 in Swansea, Glamorgan, Wales; died in 1584 in Swansea, Glamorgan, Wales; was buried in 1584 in Swansea, Glamorgan, Wales. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

    Children:
    1. 5. Thomas, Evan  Descendancy chart to this point was born in 1580 in Swansea, Glamorgan, Wales; was christened in England; died in 1650 in Maryland, USA; was buried in 1650 in Maryland, USA.