de Venoix, Miles the Marshal

Male 1020 - 1070  (50 years)


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Generation: 1

  1. 1.  de Venoix, Miles the Marshal was born in 1020 in Venoix, Caen, Calvados, Basse-Normandie, France (son of de Blois, Odo II and d'Auvergne, Ermengarde); died in 1070 in Bavent, Calvados, Basse-Normandie, France; was buried in 1070 in Le Tréport Abbey, France.

    Other Events and Attributes:

    • Appointments / Titles: Hereditary Mareschal de Normandie
    • FSID: L55P-QVF
    • Occupation: Hereditary Marshall of the Stable
    • Residence: 1050; Sold lands at Vaucelles - to Duchess Matilda for Holy Trinity, Caen

    Notes:

    Miles the Marshal, and his wife Lesceline, in or after 1059, sold to the Countess Maud (the Conqueror's wife) for her foundation of the Abbey of the Holy Trinity at Caen, whatever they held in the vill of Vaucelles -- now a suburb of Caen -- and in the church and the mill there, for four score pounds. Miles and Leseline gave land at Caen, Vaucelles and Venoix in marriage with their daughter Beatrice to a certain Arfast. Miles sold to Lanfranc, abbot of St. Stephen's, Caen (1066-1070), the land occupied by the channel of the Odon, from the point at which it left the old channel, with both banks, but he died before Lanfranc left Caen for Canterbury in 1070. [Complete Peerage XI:Appendix E:122-3]
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    DE VENOIS.
    From Venoix near Caen, Normandy. The barons of Venoix,Verbois or Venois held their fief as hereditary marshals of the stable (master of the horse) of the dukes of Normandy, hence they bore the name of le Marescal or Mareschal of Venois. Milo le Mareschal and Lasceline his wife, were living in 1050, when the duchess Matilda purchased lands at Vancelles from them for Holy Trinity at Caen.
    They had issue:
    . Ralph le Mareschal and other sons, who came to England at the conquest.
    . Robert of Hastings
    . Geoffrey the Marshall

    Ralph was living in 1086 and had issue:
    . Robert,
    . Roger le Mareschal, who had lands in Essex,
    . Gerald, owner of estates in Sussex, and
    . Goisfred, a baron in Hampshire and Wiltshire in 1086 (Domesday). Goisfred was the father of Gilbert ancestor of the Mareschals.

    Robert the eldest son, sometimes styled Fitz Ralph, de Hastings, and le Mareschal, was lord of Venoix and the king's sheriff or seneschal at Hastings, where, and at Rye, his descendants long held the revenue in farm from the crown. He had issue William de Hastings who c. 1100 married Juliana, granddaughter and heir of Waleran, a great baron in Essex, living in 1130. With Robert de Venoix his brother, he instituted a suit against his cousin, Gilbert Marescal and his son John, to recover the office of hereditary marshal, which Gilbert or Goisfrid his father had obtained and successfully held, although it could not have been theirs by right of birth. The suit failed, but William in compensation was created dapifer. Hence the celebrated and renowned family of Hastings, who married into the royalty of England and were so famous in history. From this line descended the Hastings, barons of Abergavenny, the marquesses of Hastings, the earls of Pembroke, and earls of Striguil in Ireland, as well as the earls of Huntingdon. This latter great branch of the family still exists in the male line which was ennobled in the person of sir William Hastings, created baron Hastings of Ashby-de-la-Zouch, by king Edward IV, in 1461, under which title he was summoned to parliament. He was one of the most powerful persons in the kingdom and erected at Ashby a magnificent castle, where afterwards Mary queen of Scots was kept in captivity. He possessed tremendous estates, the honours of Pevrel, Belvoir Hagenet, and Huntingdon, the lands of viscount Beaumont, Belvoir castle, with a great part of the possessions of lord Ros, Ashby-de-la-Zouch, which had belonged to the earls of Wiltshire, the castle and rape of Hastings. He was invested with many high offices; was ambassador to France, chamberlain to North Wales, constable of six castles and many more honours, too numerous to mention. Upon the death of king Edward IV, his greatness came to a sudden end, as he was lured to the tower of London by the new protector, Richard, duke of Gloucester, and beheaded forthwith in 1483.

    --(Falaise Roll).
    http://www.1066.co.nz/Mosaic%20DVD/library/people/venois.htm

    Miles married de Venoix, Lesceline in 1035. Lesceline was born in 1022 in Caen, Calvados, Basse-Normandie, France; died in 1059 in Venoix, Caen, Calvados, Basse-Normandie, France. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

    Children:
    1. de Venoix, Geoffrey the Marshal was born in 1049 in Venoix, Caen, Calvados, Basse-Normandie, France; died in 1086 in East Worldham, Hampshire, England.

Generation: 2

  1. 2.  de Blois, Odo II was born on 12 Mar 985 in Blois, Loir-et-Cher, Centre, France (son of de Blois, Odo I and de Bourgogne, Berthe); died on 15 Nov 1037 in Commercy, Meuse, Lorraine, France; was buried on 16 Nov 1037 in Tours, Indre-et-Loire, Centre, France.

    Other Events and Attributes:

    • Appointments / Titles: Count of Blois, Chartres, Châteaudun, Beauvais, Tours and Troyes
    • FSID: GDZ6-MW9

    Notes:

    "Odo quickly married a second wife, Ermengarde, DAUGHTER OF WILLIAM IV of Auvergne."

    By his second wife, Ermengarde of Auvergne, Odo had three children:

    Theobald III, who inherited the county of Blois and most of his other possessions.
    Stephen II, who inherited the counties of Meaux and Troyes in Champagne.
    Bertha, who married first Alan III, Duke of Brittany, and second Hugh IV, Count of Maine

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Odo_II,_Count_of_Blois

    https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eudes_II_de_Blois#Mariages_et_descendance
    "Il épouse en secondes noces ERMENGARDE D'AUVERGNE, fille du comte GUILLAUME IV D'AUVERGNE, dont il eut quatre enfants."

    https://it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ermengarda_d%27Alvernia --
    "Secondo la Genealogiae comes Flandriae era figlia del Conte d'Alvernia, Guglielmo IV e della moglie Humberge (o Ermengarda)."

    !!

    Odo married d'Auvergne, Ermengarde in 1003. Ermengarde (daughter of d'Auvergne, WIlliam IV and d'Auvergne, Humberge) was born in 970 in Auvergne, France; died on 12 Mar 1042 in Aquitaine, France; was buried after 12 Mar 1042 in Épernay, Marne, Champagne-Ardenne, France. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]


  2. 3.  d'Auvergne, Ermengarde was born in 970 in Auvergne, France (daughter of d'Auvergne, WIlliam IV and d'Auvergne, Humberge); died on 12 Mar 1042 in Aquitaine, France; was buried after 12 Mar 1042 in Épernay, Marne, Champagne-Ardenne, France.

    Other Events and Attributes:

    • Life Event: Countess of Blois and Champagne
    • FSID: LJYH-M8G

    Children:
    1. de Blois, Theobald III was born in 1012 in Blois, Loir-et-Cher, Centre, France; died on 30 Sep 1089 in Épernay, Côte-d'Or, Bourgogne, France; was buried after 30 Sep 1089 in Collégiale Saint Martin, Angers, Maine-et-Loire, Pays de la Loire, France.
    2. 1. de Venoix, Miles the Marshal was born in 1020 in Venoix, Caen, Calvados, Basse-Normandie, France; died in 1070 in Bavent, Calvados, Basse-Normandie, France; was buried in 1070 in Le Tréport Abbey, France.


Generation: 3

  1. 4.  de Blois, Odo I was born in 950 in Marmoutier, Bas-Rhin, Alsace, France; died on 12 Mar 995 in Touraine, Indre-et-Loire, Centre, France; was buried after 12 Mar 995 in Tours, Indre-et-Loire, Centre, France.

    Other Events and Attributes:

    • FSID: GDZD-15C

    Odo married de Bourgogne, Berthe in 983 in Bourgogne, France. Berthe (daughter of von Hochburgund, Conrad III and de France, Mathilde) was born on 27 Mar 967 in Königreich, Stade, Niedersachsen, Germany; died on 16 Jan 1010 in Blois, Loir-et-Cher, Centre, France. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]


  2. 5.  de Bourgogne, Berthe was born on 27 Mar 967 in Königreich, Stade, Niedersachsen, Germany (daughter of von Hochburgund, Conrad III and de France, Mathilde); died on 16 Jan 1010 in Blois, Loir-et-Cher, Centre, France.

    Other Events and Attributes:

    • FSID: GDZ6-3JS

    Children:
    1. 2. de Blois, Odo II was born on 12 Mar 985 in Blois, Loir-et-Cher, Centre, France; died on 15 Nov 1037 in Commercy, Meuse, Lorraine, France; was buried on 16 Nov 1037 in Tours, Indre-et-Loire, Centre, France.

  3. 6.  d'Auvergne, WIlliam IV was born in 935 in Limoges, Haute-Vienne, Limousin, France (son of de Clermont, Robert II and de Brioude, Ingelberge); died in 1016 in Auvergne, France.

    Other Events and Attributes:

    • Appointments / Titles: Auvergne, France; Count
    • Nickname: Guillaume
    • FSID: GSLQ-47Y

    Notes:

    HUMBERGE IS THE WIFE OF WILLIAM IV:

    "GUILLAUME IV. Comte d'Auvergne. He is named in charters of his wife quoted below. MARRIED HUMBERGE, daughter of UNKNOWN. There is doubt about Humberge's parentage, but she MAY have been HUMBERGE, daughter of Etienne de Brioude and his second wife Adelais [Blanche] d’Anjou, a hypothesis which *appears* to provide a good solution to various chronological difficulties posed by references in different primary sources.

    fmg.ac. (n.d.). AUVERGNE. [online] Available at: http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/AUVERGNE.htm#GuillaumeIVAuvergnedied1016 [Accessed 5 Jun. 2021].

    "Si conosce il nome della moglie, Umberga, di cui non si conoscono gli ascendenti, come asserisce il Baluze, nella sua Histoire généalogique de la maison d'Auvergne."

    "We know the name of his wife, Umberga, whose ancestors are not known, as Baluze asserts in his Histoire généalogique de la maison d'Auvergne."

    ai (2013). Guglielmo IV d’Alvernia. [online] Wikipedia.org. Available at: https://it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guglielmo_IV_d%27Alvernia [Accessed 5 Jun. 2021].

    Contributeurs aux projets Wikimedia (2004). Guillaume IV d’Auvergne. [online] Wikipedia.org. Available at: https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guillaume_IV_d%27Auvergne [Accessed 5 Jun. 2021].

    WIlliam married d'Auvergne, Humberge. Humberge (daughter of de Bourbon, Seigneur Aimond Ier) was born between 930 and 940 in Aquitaine, France; died in UNKNOWN in Aquitaine, France. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]


  4. 7.  d'Auvergne, Humberge was born between 930 and 940 in Aquitaine, France (daughter of de Bourbon, Seigneur Aimond Ier); died in UNKNOWN in Aquitaine, France.

    Other Events and Attributes:

    • FSID: LT8S-3TF

    Notes:

    HUMBERGE IS THE WIFE OF WILLIAM IV:

    -- http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/AUVERGNE.htm#GuillaumeIVAuvergnedied1016 --

    "GUILLAUME IV. Comte d'Auvergne. He is named in charters of his wife quoted below. MARRIED HUMBERGE, daughter of UNKNOWN. There is doubt about Humberge's parentage, but she MAY have been HUMBERGE, daughter of Etienne de Brioude and his second wife Adelais [Blanche] d’Anjou, a hypothesis which *appears* to provide a good solution to various chronological difficulties posed by references in different primary sources.

    http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/toulnoreast.htm#HumbergeErmengardeBrioudeMGuillAuvergne
    https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ermengarde_(comtesse_d%27Auvergne)
    https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Ier_d%27Auvergne

    !

    Children:
    1. 3. d'Auvergne, Ermengarde was born in 970 in Auvergne, France; died on 12 Mar 1042 in Aquitaine, France; was buried after 12 Mar 1042 in Épernay, Marne, Champagne-Ardenne, France.


Generation: 4

  1. 10.  von Hochburgund, Conrad III was born in 925 in Franche-Comté, France (son of von Hochburgund, King Rudolph II and von Schwaben, Bertha); died on 19 Oct 993 in Wien, Wien, Wien, Austria; was buried on 19 Oct 993 in Wien, Wien, Wien, Austria.

    Other Events and Attributes:

    • House: Welf
    • FSID: LDSH-S6J
    • Religion: Roman Catholic
    • Appointments / Titles: Between 937 and 993; King of Bourgogne

    Notes:

    Conrad I, called the Peaceful (French: Conrad le Pacifique; German: Konrad der Friedfertige), a member of the Elder House of Welf, was King of Burgundy from 937 until his death.

    Son of King Rudolph II, and his consort Bertha, a daughter of Duke Burchard II of Swabia.

    Also known as Conrad III, since he was the third Conrad in his family: his great-grandfather was Duke Conrad II, whose father was Count Conrad I.

    According to chronicler Ekkehard IV, in a story that is probably apocryphal, when Conrad learned that both the Magyars and the Saracens of Fraxinetum were marching against him, he sent envoys to both armies warning them of the other. The envoys offered Burgundian aid to each invader against the other and then informed them of the other's whereabouts. When the Magyars and Saracens met, the Burgundians held back and only attacked when the opposing forces were spent. In this way, both invading armies were destroyed and the captives sold into slavery.

    He married -

    Adelaide of Bellay.
    Gisela - married to Henry II, Duke of Bavaria

    Matilda
    Bertha (964 – 16 January 1016), married Odo I, Count of Blois/ Robert II of France
    Matilda (969), possibly married Robert, Count of Geneva
    Rudolph III
    Gerberga (born 965), married Herman II, Duke of Swabia[5]

    By his concubine, Aldiud, he had a son:
    Burchard, Archbishop of Lyons[6]

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conrad_I_of_Burgundy

    Conrad married de France, Mathilde in 955 in Germany. Mathilde (daughter of of the West Franks, King Louis IV and von Sachsen, Queen of France Gerberga) was born in 943 in Laon, Aisne, Picardie, France; died on 26 Nov 982 in Vermandois (Historical), Picardie, France; was buried after 26 Nov 982 in Wien, Wien, Wien, Austria. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]


  2. 11.  de France, Mathilde was born in 943 in Laon, Aisne, Picardie, France (daughter of of the West Franks, King Louis IV and von Sachsen, Queen of France Gerberga); died on 26 Nov 982 in Vermandois (Historical), Picardie, France; was buried after 26 Nov 982 in Wien, Wien, Wien, Austria.

    Other Events and Attributes:

    • House: Carolingian
    • FSID: KND9-P91

    Notes:

    Matilda of France - member of the Carolingian dynasty.

    Daughter of King Louis IV of France (920/921–954), ruler of West Francia, and his wife, Gerberga of Saxony (d. about 984), sister of the East Frankish king Otto I. At the time of her birth, Carolingian rule had already weakened: King Louis attempted to stabilize his reign by marrying an East Frankish princess, while he fought with the reluctant dukes of Normandy and with the forces of his Robertian rival Hugh the Great.

    When Matilda's brother, 13-year-old Lothair ascended the French throne in 954, Gerberga acted as regent.

    In 964 Matilda was married to Conrad, the Welf ruler of the Kingdom of Burgundy, who strongly relied on the support of Otto I, Holy Roman Emperor, Matilda's maternal uncle and husband of Conrad's sister Adelaide. As her dowry, the young queen brought her husband the city of Vienne, which her brother Lothair had ceded to her.

    Matilda was outlived by her husband, she probably died after 981. She is buried in Vienne Cathedral

    Children:
    1. 5. de Bourgogne, Berthe was born on 27 Mar 967 in Königreich, Stade, Niedersachsen, Germany; died on 16 Jan 1010 in Blois, Loir-et-Cher, Centre, France.

  3. 12.  de Clermont, Robert II was born in 905 in Auvergne, France (son of de Clermont, Robert I and de Mercoeur, Viscountess Adelgarde); died in 989 in Auvergne, France.

    Other Events and Attributes:

    • Appointments / Titles: Auvergne, France; Vicount
    • FSID: G71X-VLP

    Notes:

    Robert II was nicknamed the Young during the foundation of the monastery of Chanteuges in 936, during his father's lifetime. He is mentioned as Viscount of Auvergne in the donation made by his brother, the bishop of Clermont, Stephen, to the chapter of Brioude in 962.

    He was the son of Robert I, and the father of Robert III, Guy I of Auvergne and Guillaume I, who were viscounts or counts of Auvergne after him. He was also the brother of Stephen II, bishop of Clermont.

    Wikipedia. (2020). Robert II de Clermont. [online] Available at: https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_II_de_Clermont [Accessed 4 Jun. 2021].

    Translated into English

    Robert married de Brioude, Ingelberge. Ingelberge (daughter of de Brioude, Dalmace I and de Brioude, Engelberga) was born in 910 in France; died in 962 in France. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]


  4. 13.  de Brioude, Ingelberge was born in 910 in France (daughter of de Brioude, Dalmace I and de Brioude, Engelberga); died in 962 in France.

    Other Events and Attributes:

    • FSID: G81Z-7ZF

    Notes:

    GZNQ-R1Z and GZN7-MSD may not be her parents.

    Children:
    1. 6. d'Auvergne, WIlliam IV was born in 935 in Limoges, Haute-Vienne, Limousin, France; died in 1016 in Auvergne, France.

  5. 14.  de Bourbon, Seigneur Aimond Ier was born in 890 in France (son of de Bourbon, Comte de Souvigny Aimar); died in 980 in France.

    Other Events and Attributes:

    • FSID: GZYY-BN7

    Children:
    1. 7. d'Auvergne, Humberge was born between 930 and 940 in Aquitaine, France; died in UNKNOWN in Aquitaine, France.