d'Aquitaine, Ebles II
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1. d'Aquitaine, Ebles II was born on 23 Feb 876 in Poitiers, Vienne, Poitou-Charentes, France (son of de Poitiers, Ranulf II); died on 27 May 935 in Poitiers, Vienne, Poitou-Charentes, France; was buried after 27 May 935 in Poitiers, Vienne, Poitou-Charentes, France. Other Events and Attributes:
- Nickname: The Bastard
- FSID: 9SJP-9TN
- Appointments / Titles: Between 890 and 892, Poitiers, Vienne, Poitou-Charentes, France; Count of Poitou and Duc d'Aquitaine
- Appointments / Titles: Between 890 and 892, Poitou-Charentes, France; Count of Poitou and Duc d'Aquitaine
- Appointments / Titles: Between 902 and 935, Poitou-Charentes, France; Count of Poitou
- Appointments / Titles: Between 928 and 932, Aquitaine, France; Duc d'Aquitaine, Count of Berry, Count of Auvegne and Velay
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Wikipedia -
Ebalus, or Ebles Manzer, or Manser (c. 870 – 935), was Count of Poitou and Duke of Aquitaine on two occasions: from 890 to 892; and then from 902 until his death in 935 (Poitou) and from 928 until 932 (Aquitaine).
Early life
Ebles was an illegitimate son of Ranulf II of Aquitaine. "Manzer", or "Mamzer", is a Hebrew word that means bastard, son of a forbidden relationship, although in the case of Ebles it may have been applied to bastardy in general.
Count of Poitou
Upon the death of his father (who was poisoned), Ebles assumed his father's mantle and acquired the role of Count of Poitou. But Ebles could not hold on to the title for long. Aymar, a descendant of one of Ramnulf II's predecessors, challenged Ebles' right to rule, as Ebles was merely a bastard son. In 892, Aymar, who was supported by Eudes of France, overthrew Ebles, and Ebles fled to the safety of his father's allies, Count Gerald of Aurillac and William the Pious, count of Auvergne and Duke of Aquitaine.[1] William the Pious had taken Ebles under his care and assured the boy's education after the death of Ebles' father.[2]
Poitiers
In 902, Ebles, with the assistance of William the Pious, a distant relative, conquered Poitiers while Aymar was away, and reestablished himself in his former position. Charles III, who knew Ebles as a childhood companion, then formally invested Ebles with the title, Count of Poitou. Ebles would hold this title until his death.[2]
The comital title was the only one to which he ever had legitimate investiture. Ebles allotted the abbey of Saint-Maixent to Savary, Viscount of Thouars, who had been his constant supporter. He restructured Poitou by creating new viscounties in Aulnay and Melle and dissolved the title and position of Viscount of Poitou upon the death of its holder, Maingaud, in 925.
In 904, he conquered the Limousin.
French commanders
In 911 he, with two other French commanders were aligned in opposition to Rollo, a Norwegian invader who had plundered the countryside. Ebles and the other two commanders intended to lead their armies in defense of the city of Chartres. Part of Rollo's army camped on a hill (Mount-Levis) north of the city, while the rest were stationed on the plains outside Chartres.[3]
Battle
On 20 July 911, the battle between the French and Danish armies commenced. "Rollo and his forces were shamefully routed, smitten, as the legend tells, with corporeal blindness. A panic assuredly fell upon the heroic commander, a species of mental infirmity discernible in his descendants: the contagious terror unnerved the host. Unpursued, they dispersed and fled without resistance." At the end of the day, 6,800 Danes lay dead on the field of battle.[4]
Ebles was somewhat slow in arriving at Chartres, so he was unable to "take his due share in the conflict." His victorious partners proudly boasted of their success, and mocked Ebles and his tardy army. To redeem his honor and quiet the ridicule, Ebles accepted a challenge to confront the remnant of the Danish army that remained camped on the Mont-Levis. But instead of driving the Danes away, Ebles' army was defeated soundly. "In the dark of the night, the Northmen, sounding their horns and making a terrible clamour, rushed down the mount and stormed" Ebles camp. Ebles fled and hid in a drum in a fuller's workshop. His cowardice and dishonor was derided in a popular French ballad of the Plantagenet age.[5]
Duke of Aquitaine
When Ebles' benefactor, William the Pious, died, William was succeeded as Duke of Aquitaine by William the Younger. In 927, William the Younger died, and he left his title to his brother Acfred; but Acfred did not live even a year. Acfred made Ebles his heir, and in 928 Ebles assumed the titles Duke of Aquitaine, Count of Berry, Count of Auvergne, and Velay.[6]
In 929, King Rudolph started trying to reduce the power of Ebles. He withdrew from him access to Berry, then in 932 he transferred the titles of Duke of Aquitaine and Count of Auvergne to the Count of Toulouse, Raymond Pons. Moreover, the territory of La Marche, which was under the control of the lord of Charroux, vassal of Ebles, was transformed into an independent county.
Marriage and issue
Ebles' first wife was Aremburga, whom he married before 10 October 892.[2] His second wife was Emilienne, whom he married in 911. Following Emilienne's death in 913/915, Ebles remarried to an Adele.[7] Some 19th-century English historians identified Adele with Ælfgifu, daughter of Edward the Elder, [8] known to have married "a prince near the Alps", but there is nothing to support this identification. She has also been called Adela, Alaine, or Aliana.
Ebalus had one child by Emilienne, and another one by Adele:[9]
William III of Aquitaine married Gerloc, daughter of Rollo of Normandy
Ebalus, Bishop of Limoges and Treasurer of St. Hilary of Poitiers.[10]
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Ebles Manzer de Poitiers, duc d'Aquitaine
Also Known As: "Ebalus", "Eble", "Ebles", "le Bâtard", "the Bastard", "Bekart", "Mamser", "Mancer", "Manzer", "Manser", "Ebles Manzer or Manser", "van Aquitanie"
Birthdate: February 27, 876
Birthplace: Poitou-Charentes, Poitiers, Vienne, Nouvelle-Aquitaine, France
Death: May 27, 935 (59)
Poitou-Charentes, Poitiers, Vienne, Nouvelle-Aquitaine, France
Place of Burial: France
Immediate Family:
Son of Ranulf II de Poitiers, Comte de Poitou, Duc d'Aquitaine and NN, Mistress of Rainulfe II
Husband of Émilienne of Poitou
Father of
Guillaume 'Tête d'étoupe' d'Aquitaine, III duc d'Aquitaine, I comte de Poitou
Half brother of Ranulf III, Count of Poitou
Occupation: Duc d'Aquitaine 890-892, 902-935 and 927-935, Comte de Poitou, du Limousin et d'Auvergne
Wikipedia -
Ebalus, or Ebles Manzer, or Manser (c. 870 – 935), was Count of Poitou and Duke of Aquitaine on two occasions: from 890 to 892; and then from 902 until his death in 935 (Poitou) and from 928 until 932 (Aquitaine).
Early life
Ebles was an illegitimate son of Ranulf II of Aquitaine. "Manzer", or "Mamzer", is a Hebrew word that means bastard, son of a forbidden relationship, although in the case of Ebles it may have been applied to bastardy in general.
Count of Poitou
Upon the death of his father (who was poisoned), Ebles assumed his father's mantle and acquired the role of Count of Poitou. But Ebles could not hold on to the title for long. Aymar, a descendant of one of Ramnulf II's predecessors, challenged Ebles' right to rule, as Ebles was merely a bastard son. In 892, Aymar, who was supported by Eudes of France, overthrew Ebles, and Ebles fled to the safety of his father's allies, Count Gerald of Aurillac and William the Pious, count of Auvergne and Duke of Aquitaine.[1] William the Pious had taken Ebles under his care and assured the boy's education after the death of Ebles' father.[2]
Poitiers
In 902, Ebles, with the assistance of William the Pious, a distant relative, conquered Poitiers while Aymar was away, and reestablished himself in his former position. Charles III, who knew Ebles as a childhood companion, then formally invested Ebles with the title, Count of Poitou. Ebles would hold this title until his death.[2]
The comital title was the only one to which he ever had legitimate investiture. Ebles allotted the abbey of Saint-Maixent to Savary, Viscount of Thouars, who had been his constant supporter. He restructured Poitou by creating new viscounties in Aulnay and Melle and dissolved the title and position of Viscount of Poitou upon the death of its holder, Maingaud, in 925.
In 904, he conquered the Limousin.
French commanders
In 911 he, with two other French commanders were aligned in opposition to Rollo, a Norwegian invader who had plundered the countryside. Ebles and the other two commanders intended to lead their armies in defense of the city of Chartres. Part of Rollo's army camped on a hill (Mount-Levis) north of the city, while the rest were stationed on the plains outside Chartres.[3]
Battle
On 20 July 911, the battle between the French and Danish armies commenced. "Rollo and his forces were shamefully routed, smitten, as the legend tells, with corporeal blindness. A panic assuredly fell upon the heroic commander, a species of mental infirmity discernible in his descendants: the contagious terror unnerved the host. Unpursued, they dispersed and fled without resistance." At the end of the day, 6,800 Danes lay dead on the field of battle.[4]
Ebles was somewhat slow in arriving at Chartres, so he was unable to "take his due share in the conflict." His victorious partners proudly boasted of their success, and mocked Ebles and his tardy army. To redeem his honor and quiet the ridicule, Ebles accepted a challenge to confront the remnant of the Danish army that remained camped on the Mont-Levis. But instead of driving the Danes away, Ebles' army was defeated soundly. "In the dark of the night, the Northmen, sounding their horns and making a terrible clamour, rushed down the mount and stormed" Ebles camp. Ebles fled and hid in a drum in a fuller's workshop. His cowardice and dishonor was derided in a popular French ballad of the Plantagenet age.[5]
Duke of Aquitaine
When Ebles' benefactor, William the Pious, died, William was succeeded as Duke of Aquitaine by William the Younger. In 927, William the Younger died, and he left his title to his brother Acfred; but Acfred did not live even a year. Acfred made Ebles his heir, and in 928 Ebles assumed the titles Duke of Aquitaine, Count of Berry, Count of Auvergne, and Velay.[6]
In 929, King Rudolph started trying to reduce the power of Ebles. He withdrew from him access to Berry, then in 932 he transferred the titles of Duke of Aquitaine and Count of Auvergne to the Count of Toulouse, Raymond Pons. Moreover, the territory of La Marche, which was under the control of the lord of Charroux, vassal of Ebles, was transformed into an independent county.
Marriage and issue
Ebles' first wife was Aremburga, whom he married before 10 October 892.[2] His second wife was Emilienne, whom he married in 911. Following Emilienne's death in 913/915, Ebles remarried to an Adele.[7] Some 19th-century English historians identified Adele with Ælfgifu, daughter of Edward the Elder, [8] known to have married "a prince near the Alps", but there is nothing to support this identification. She has also been called Adela, Alaine, or Aliana.
Ebalus had one child by Emilienne, and another one by Adele:[9]
William III of Aquitaine married Gerloc, daughter of Rollo of Normandy
Ebalus, Bishop of Limoges and Treasurer of St. Hilary of Poitiers.[10]Ebles married du Poitou, Emilienne in 911 in France. Emilienne (daughter of le Pieux, WIlliam and de Provence, Engelberge) was born in 879 in Poitiers, Vienne, Poitou-Charentes, France; died in 935 in Poitiers, Vienne, Poitou-Charentes, France; was buried in 935 in Saint-Jean de Montierneuf, Poitiers, Vienne, Poitou-Charentes, France. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]
Children:- d'Aquitaine, WIlliam III was born on 22 Oct 915 in Poitiers, Vienne, Poitou-Charentes, France; died on 3 Apr 963 in Saint-Maixent-l'École, Deux-Sèvres, Poitou-Charentes, France; was buried on 5 Apr 963 in Saint Cyprien, Poitiers, Vienne, Poitou-Charentes, France.
2. de Poitiers, Ranulf II was born in 840 in Poitou-Charentes, France (son of de Poitiers, Ranulf I and du Maine, Blichilde); died on 5 Aug 890 in Paris, Île-de-France, France. Other Events and Attributes:
- FSID: 9HP6-RVT
- Appointments / Titles: Between 866 and 890; Count of Poitiers
- Appointments / Titles: 887; Duke of Aquitaine
Notes:
https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ramnulf_II_de_Poitiers
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ranulf_II_of_AquitaineChildren:
- 1. d'Aquitaine, Ebles II was born on 23 Feb 876 in Poitiers, Vienne, Poitou-Charentes, France; died on 27 May 935 in Poitiers, Vienne, Poitou-Charentes, France; was buried after 27 May 935 in Poitiers, Vienne, Poitou-Charentes, France.
Generation: 3
4. de Poitiers, Ranulf I was born in 820 in Poitiers, Vienne, Poitou-Charentes, France (son of d'Auvergne, Gerald I and d'Auvergne, Hildgard); died on 2 Jul 866 in Brissarthe, Maine-et-Loire, Pays de la Loire, France; was buried in 866 in Saint-Jean de Montierneuf, Poitiers, Vienne, Poitou-Charentes, France. Other Events and Attributes:
- Appointments / Titles: Poitiers, Vienne, Poitou-Charentes, France; Count
- Appointments / Titles: Poitou-Charentes, France; Count
- Appointments / Titles: Aquitaine, France; Duke
- FSID: LBQB-VWT
Notes:
https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ramnulf_Ier_de_Poitiers
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ranulf_I_of_AquitaineRanulf married du Maine, Blichilde. Blichilde (daughter of du Maine, Count Rorgon and de Poitiers, Bilichilde I) was born in 815 in Maine (Historical), France; was christened in 837 in France; died in 865 in France; was buried in 865 in Saint-Jean de Montierneuf, Poitiers, Vienne, Poitou-Charentes, France. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]
5. du Maine, Blichilde was born in 815 in Maine (Historical), France; was christened in 837 in France (daughter of du Maine, Count Rorgon and de Poitiers, Bilichilde I); died in 865 in France; was buried in 865 in Saint-Jean de Montierneuf, Poitiers, Vienne, Poitou-Charentes, France. Other Events and Attributes:
- Appointments / Titles: Countess
- FSID: G8H3-23Z
Notes:
geneanet
Bilchilde du MAINEPrint Family Tree
Parents
Roricon II du MAINE, comte de Rennes (819) comte du Maine (832-839) 808-839
Bichilde N 810-840
Spouses and children
Married to Bernard de POITIERS with
M Bernard de GOTHIE
Siblings
M Roricon du MAINE †866
F Adeltrude du MAINE 832/-865
M Gauzfrid Ou Roricon III du MAINE, comte du Maine 833-878..885
M Gauzlin du MAINE 834-886
Half-siblings
On the side of Roricon II du MAINE, comte de Rennes (819) comte du Maine (832-839) 808-839
with Rotrude N 775-810
F Adeltrude du MAINE
M Louis du MAINE, chancelier de France ca 800-867Children:
- 2. de Poitiers, Ranulf II was born in 840 in Poitou-Charentes, France; died on 5 Aug 890 in Paris, Île-de-France, France.
Generation: 4
8. d'Auvergne, Gerald I was born in 795 in Poitiers, Vienne, Poitou-Charentes, France; died on 25 Jun 841 in Fontenoy, Yonne, Bourgogne, France; was buried in 841 in Aurillac, Cantal, Auvergne, France. Other Events and Attributes:
- FSID: GM2V-L68
Gerald married d'Auvergne, Hildgard. Hildgard was born in UNKNOWN; died on 23 Apr 860 in Laon, Aisne, Picardie, France; was buried after 23 Apr 860 in Cysoing, Nord, Nord-Pas-de-Calais, France. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]
9. d'Auvergne, Hildgard was born in UNKNOWN; died on 23 Apr 860 in Laon, Aisne, Picardie, France; was buried after 23 Apr 860 in Cysoing, Nord, Nord-Pas-de-Calais, France. Other Events and Attributes:
- FSID: GZ99-F8J
- Occupation: Abbesse de l'abbaye Saint-Jean in Laon, Aisne, Picardie, France
Notes:
Dochter van de graaf van Provence.
Daughter of the Count of Provence.Children:
- 4. de Poitiers, Ranulf I was born in 820 in Poitiers, Vienne, Poitou-Charentes, France; died on 2 Jul 866 in Brissarthe, Maine-et-Loire, Pays de la Loire, France; was buried in 866 in Saint-Jean de Montierneuf, Poitiers, Vienne, Poitou-Charentes, France.
10. du Maine, Count Rorgon was born in 770 in Maine (Historical), France (son of du Maine, Gauzlin and de Bourges, Aldetrude); died on 1 Mar 840 in Maine (Historical), France. Other Events and Attributes:
- House: Rogonid
- FSID: LDSS-H8K
- Appointments / Titles: Between 819 and 840, Rennes, Ille-et-Vilaine, Bretagne, France; Comte de Rennes
- Appointments / Titles: Between 832 and 840, Maine (Historical), France; Count
Notes:
Rorgon I or Rorico(n) I (also Rorgo or Rorich; died 16 June 839 or 840) was the first Count of Maine and progenitor of the Rorgonid dynasty, which is named for him. He was Count of Rennes from 819 and of Maine from 832 until his death.
He was a son of count Gauzlin I of Maine[1] and Adeltrude, both of whom are named as his parents in a charter of 839 by Rorgo I to the Abbey of Saint-Maur de Glanfeuil.[2] Between 819 and 832 Rorgon became count of Maine and at some point, possibly at the bidding of his wife Bilechilde who may have owned the property, undertook to restore the Abbey of Glanfeuil. An Abbot Ingelbert of Saint-Maur-des-Fossés allegedly assisted Rorgon and sent monks including Rorgon's brother Gausbert.[a][3] Gausbert (Gauzbert) was the name of an Abbot at St. Maur.[4]
Count Rorgon had been a retainer at the court of Charlemagne, with whose daughter Rotrude he had a sexual relationship.[5] The couple had at least one illegitimate child, Louis, Abbot of Saint-Denis, Saint-Riquier, and Saint-Wandrille,[5] who was also chancellor to his cousin Charles the Bald from 841.[4]
Rorgon became the second Count of Maine in 832 when his predecessor Banzleibs was made Margrave of the Saxons. He remained Count of Maine until his death in 840, at which time he was succeeded by his brother Gauzbert. His own son, Rorgon II, succeeded Gauzbert in 853 and upon his death in 865 his other son Gauzfrid became Count.
Marriage and issue[edit]
Rorgon married a lady named Bilechilde,[4] and had three sons and two daughters:
• Rorgon II of Maine[4]
• Gauzfrid of Neustria[4]
• Gauzlin, Bishop of Paris[4]
• Bilechilde, who married Bernard II, Count of Poitiers[4]
• Adaltrude, who married Ramulf, Count of Poitiers[4]
Rorgon and Rotrude had one illegitimate son—Louis, Abbot of Saint-Denis, Saint-Riquier, Saint-Wandrille, and Chancellor to King Charles the Bald.Rorgon married de Poitiers, Bilichilde I in 820 in Maine (Historical), France. Bilichilde (daughter of de Poitiers, Adalelme and de Cahors, Ayga) was born in 783 in Maine (Historical), France; died on 1 Mar 839 in Maine (Historical), France. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]
11. de Poitiers, Bilichilde I was born in 783 in Maine (Historical), France (daughter of de Poitiers, Adalelme and de Cahors, Ayga); died on 1 Mar 839 in Maine (Historical), France. Other Events and Attributes:
- FSID: G8H3-ZTG
Children:
- 5. du Maine, Blichilde was born in 815 in Maine (Historical), France; was christened in 837 in France; died in 865 in France; was buried in 865 in Saint-Jean de Montierneuf, Poitiers, Vienne, Poitou-Charentes, France.