of Flanders, Count Baldwin II

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  1. 1.  of Flanders, Count Baldwin II was born in 864 in French Flanders (Historical), Nord, Nord-Pas-de-Calais, France (son of of Flanders, Baldwin I and de France, Judith); died on 10 Sep 918 in Blandijnberg, Gent, Oost-Vlaanderen, Belgium; was buried on 15 Sep 918 in Abbey of Saint Pierre-Du-Mont Blandin, Gent, Oost-Vlaanderen, Belgium.

    Other Events and Attributes:

    • Appointments / Titles: Artois, Pas-de-Calais, Nord-Pas-de-Calais, France; Count of Artois
    • Appointments / Titles: Boulogne, Pas-de-Calais, Nord-Pas-de-Calais, France; Count of Boulogne
    • Appointments / Titles: Count of Ternois
    • Appointments / Titles: Margrave of Flanders
    • House: House of Flanders
    • FSID: LDHS-DWJ

    Notes:

    "Baldwin II was the second margrave of Flanders, ruling from 879 to 918. He was nicknamed the Bald (Calvus) after his maternal grandfather, King Charles the Bald."

    "Baldwin II was born around 865 to Baldwin I of Flanders and Judith of Flanders, the great-granddaughter of Charlemagne."

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baldwin_II,_Margrave_of_Flanders
    https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baudouin_II_de_Flandre

    [NB: Information sourced from Wikipedia is subject to change by third-parties. Follow the URL(s) noted above to review the latest content.]

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    Baldwin married of Flanders, Princess Ælfthryth in 890. Ælfthryth (daughter of of Wessex, King Alfred and of Mercia, Queen Eathswith) was born in 877 in Kingdom of Wessex (England); died on 7 Jun 929 in Gent, Oost-Vlaanderen, Belgium; was buried on 7 Jun 929 in St Peter's Abbey, Gent, Oost-Vlaanderen, Belgium. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

    Children:
    1. of Flanders, Arnulf I was born in 890; died on 27 Mar 964; was buried after 27 Mar 964 in Saint-Pierre de Gand, Gent, Oost-Vlaanderen, Belgium.

Generation: 2

  1. 2.  of Flanders, Baldwin I was born in 837 in Laon, Aisne, Picardie, France (son of of Flanders, Odoacer and of Flanders, N.N.); died on 2 Jan 879 in Arras, Pas-de-Calais, Nord-Pas-de-Calais, France; was buried in 879 in Abbey of Saint Bertin, Pas-de-Calais, Nord-Pas-de-Calais, France.

    Other Events and Attributes:

    • Appointments / Titles: Flanders, Noord-Holland, Netherlands; Margrave of Flanders
    • Appointments / Titles: Saint Omer
    • House: Flanders
    • FSID: LDHS-DF1

    Notes:

    Baldwin I (probably 830s – 879), also known as Baldwin Iron Arm and Baudouin, was the first margrave of Flanders. Early sources identify Baldwin (Baudouin) as the son of Odacre (also spelled Audacer) ruler of Flanders. Odacre is believed to have died when his son was still very young, too young to rule. It is not known who ruled Flanders between Odacre's death and the time his son was appointed.

    When Baldwin first appears in the records he was already a count, presumably in the area of Flanders, but this is not known. Count Baldwin rose to prominence when he eloped with Judith, daughter of Charles the Bald, king of West Francia. Judith had previously been married to Æthelwulf and Æthelbald, kings of Wessex, but after the latter's death in 860, she returned to France.
    Around the Christmas of 861, at the instigation of Baldwin and with her brother Louis's consent, Judith escaped the custody into which she had been placed in the city of Senlis, Oise after her return from England. She fled north with Count Baldwin. Charles had given no permission for a marriage and tried to capture Baldwin, sending letters to Rorik of Dorestad and Bishop Hungar, forbidding them to shelter the fugitive.
    After Baldwin and Judith had evaded his attempts to capture them, Charles had his bishops excommunicate the couple. Judith and Baldwin responded by travelling to Rome to plead their case with Pope Nicholas I. Their plea was successful and Charles was forced to accept the situation. The marriage took place on 13 December 862 in Auxerre. By 870, Baldwin had acquired the lay-abbacy of Saint Peter's Abbey in Ghent and is assumed to have also acquired the counties of Flanders and Waasland, or parts thereof by this time.

    Baldwin I and Judith had four children:
    - Charles, who was named after his maternal grandfather but died at a young age
    - Baldwin II (c. 866 – 918), who succeeded as margrave of Flanders
    - Ralph (c. 869 – murdered 896), who became count of Cambrai around 888; he and his brother joined King Zwentibold of Lotharingia in 895, attacked Vermandois and captured Arras, Saint-Quentin and Peronne, and ended up captured and killed by Herbert I of Vermandois
    - Guinidilda, who married Wilfred I the Hairy, Count of Barcelona

    Baldwin developed himself as a very faithful and stout supporter of Charles and played an important role in the continuing wars against the Vikings. He is named in 877 as one of those willing to support the emperor's son, Louis the Stammerer. During his life, Baldwin expanded his territory into one of the major principalities of Western Francia. He died in 879 and was buried in the Abbey of St-Bertin, near Saint-Omer.

    Baldwin married de France, Judith on 13 Dec 862 in Auxerre, Yonne, Bourgogne, France. Judith (daughter of le Chauve, King Charles II and d'Orléans, Queen Ermentrude) was born in Oct 844 in Orléans, Loiret, Centre, France; died on 13 Jan 870 in Bruges, Gironde, Aquitaine, France; was buried after 13 Jan 870 in Abbey of Saint Bertin, Pas-de-Calais, Nord-Pas-de-Calais, France. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]


  2. 3.  de France, Judith was born in Oct 844 in Orléans, Loiret, Centre, France (daughter of le Chauve, King Charles II and d'Orléans, Queen Ermentrude); died on 13 Jan 870 in Bruges, Gironde, Aquitaine, France; was buried after 13 Jan 870 in Abbey of Saint Bertin, Pas-de-Calais, Nord-Pas-de-Calais, France.

    Other Events and Attributes:

    • House: House of Carolingian
    • FSID: LD98-69W
    • Life Event: 1 Oct 856, Verberie, Oise, Picardie, France; Judith was crowned queen and anointed by Hincmar, Archbishop of Rheims; in Wessex it was not customary for kings\' wives to be queens, but Charles insisted that his daughter be crowned queen. Although empresses had been anointed before, this is the first definitely known anointing of a Carolingian queen.
    • Life Event: 13 Jan 858, Kingdom of Wessex (England); Judith was widowed at age 14 when Æthelwulf died on 13 January 858. They had been married a year and 3 months and had no children.
    • Life Event: Jul 860, Kingdom of Wessex (England); Judith was still childless when Æthelbald died in 860 after a reign of two-and-a-half years
    • Life Event: Dec 860, Senlis, Somme, Picardie, France; Following Æthelbald's death, Judith sold her properties in Wessex and returned to France. Her father, Charles the Bald, sent her to the Monastery at Senlis. She was to remain \"under his protection and guardianship, with all the honour due a queen, until such time as she might marry...suitably and legally.\"
    • Life Event: Dec 861, Harelbeke, West-Vlaanderen, Belgium; Around Christmas 861, Judith eloped with Baldwin, later Count of Flanders, to Harelbeke (Belgium) with her brother Louis the Stammerer\'s consent.
    • Life Event: 13 Dec 862, Auxerre, Yonne, Bourgogne, France; Judith's father Charles the Bald wanted Judith and Baldwin excommunicated. Pope Nicholas I convinced him to accept the union of Judith and Baldwin as legally binding and welcome the young couple into his circle. They were officially married at Auxerre on 13 December 862.

    Notes:

    Judith of Flanders (or Judith of France) was the oldest child of Charles the Bald, King of the West Franks and Holy Roman Emperor, and his first wife Ermentrude of Orléans. She was born about 843, most likely in Orléans.
    On 1 October 856, at Verberie in northern France, Judith married Æthelwulf, King of Wessex. Æthelwulf was about sixty-one years old and Judith was age 12 to 14. The marriage was a diplomatic alliance and as part of the arrangement Charles insisted his daughter be crowned Queen. Judith was crowned queen and anointed by Hincmar, Archbishop of Rheims. Although empresses had been anointed before, this is the first definitely known anointing of a Carolingian queen.
    The marriage itself was unusual in that Carolingian princesses rarely married, were usually sent to nunneries, and it was almost unknown for them to marry foreigners. The marriage provoked a rebellion by Æthelwulf's eldest surviving son, Æthelbald, probably because he feared displacement by a higher-born half-brother. Æthelwulf, died on 13 January 858, married a little over a year, Judith was still no more than 14 or 15, the marriage produced no children. Æthelbald, succeed his father as King of Wessex and immediately married Judith, his step-mother, probably to enhance his status because she was the daughter of the West Frankish king.
    Æthelbald died in July 860, they had been married two-and-a-half years. Judith was no more than 17 years old, she had been twice married, twice widowed, twice been the Queen of Wessex ad she was still childless. Done with Wessex, Judith sold her properties and went home to France. Her father Charles the Bald promptly put her in the Monastery at Senlis, "under his protection, with all the honour due to a queen, until such time as she might marry suitably and legally."
    Around Christmas 861, Judith escaped and eloped with Baldwin (Count of Flanders) to the Flemish city of Harelbeke. Judith's brother Louis had given his consent but her father Charles the Bald was furious and tried to have the couple excommunicated. Thy fled to Rome and appealed to the Pope.
    Pope Nicholas I convinced Judith's father to accept the union and welcome the young couple into his circle. They were officially married at Auxerre on 13 December 862.

    Baldwin was given the County of Flanders to protect from Viking attacks. He not only succeeded in quelling the threat, but expanded both his army and his territory quickly, and became a faithful supporter of King Charles. Baldwin became known as "Iron Arm" and the March of Baldwin came to be known as the County of Flanders and would become one of the most powerful principalities of France.

    Judith finally had children. She and Baldwin are known to have had:
    Charles (c. 864/865 – died young), named after Judith's father, Charles the Bald

    Baldwin II (c. 865/867 – c. 10 September 918). Succeeded his father as Margrave (Count) of Flanders. Married Ælfthryth, daughter of Alfred the Great

    Raoul or Ralph (Rodulf) (c. 867/870 – murdered 17 June 896). Became Count of Cambrai around 888; he and his brother joined King Zwentibold of Lotharingia in 895, attacked Vermandois and captured Arras, Saint-Quentin and Peronne, and ended up captured and killed by Herbert I of Vermandois

    Guinidilda, who married Wilfred I the Hairy, Count of Barcelona

    Judith's exact date of death is not known, however, it is believed about 870, certainly before Baldwin who died in 879, they are both believed to be buried in the Abbey of St-Bertin, near Saint-Omer.

    Children:
    1. 1. of Flanders, Count Baldwin II was born in 864 in French Flanders (Historical), Nord, Nord-Pas-de-Calais, France; died on 10 Sep 918 in Blandijnberg, Gent, Oost-Vlaanderen, Belgium; was buried on 15 Sep 918 in Abbey of Saint Pierre-Du-Mont Blandin, Gent, Oost-Vlaanderen, Belgium.


Generation: 3

  1. 4.  of Flanders, Odoacer was born between 800 and 810 in France; died on 19 Nov 837 in Thérouanne, Pas-de-Calais, Nord-Pas-de-Calais, France.

    Other Events and Attributes:

    • Appointments / Titles: Count of Flanders
    • FSID: 9CNY-VTS
    • Occupation: Forester of the Woods

    Notes:

    Odacre, also spelled Audacer, Odoacer, and Odoscer, believed to be the son of Ingelram (Engelran, Enguerrand, Ingeleannus) and his wife (name not known). He was born between 800 and 810 and died in 837 at the age of 27 or 37. The Cartulaire de Saint-Bertin records his death in 837. The 'Annales Blandinienses' records his death in 836 specifying that he was buried at "Arlabeka. This makes it likely that he died in early March of 837, because of the way the calendar was then calculated with the year beginning March 25th not Jan 1st.

    Although the wife of Odacre is not known, they are believed to be the parents of Baldwin I, also known as Baudouin, born between 830 and 837. Odacre is believed to have died when his son was still very young, too young to rule. It is not known who ruled Flanders between Odacre's death and the time his son was appointed.

    There are very few sources for Odacer/Audacer/Odoacer
    It seems certain that he was the father of Baldwin I, other than that most historians/professional genealogists seem to agree that all other family relationships are fabricated.
    The only child associated with Odacer is Baldwin I aka Baudouin.

    Ingelram and Lidéric were probably real individuals, however, there is no evidence that they were the ancestors of Odacer and Baldwin I. It appears that they were written into an elaborate thirteenth century story to provided Baldwin with three generations of ancestry.
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    The Legendary Ancestors of Baldwin of Flanders

    No contemporary source gives the parentage of Baldwin I of Flanders. However, by the the late thirteenth century, an elaborate story had developed which provided Baldwin with three generations of ancestry back to a certain Lidéric, who was then said to be the first "forester" of Flanders, followed in the same position by his son Ingelram, grandson Audacer, and great-grandson Baldwin, who then became the first count of Flanders. Widely accepted in earlier times, these legends have been correctly rejected by modern scholarship. Fortunately, the surviving rescensions of the genealogies of the counts of Flanders allow us to see some of the stages by which this legendary scenario developed, and even though a careful examination of these shows us that Ingelram and probably also Lidéric were real individuals, the alleged descent of Baldwin I from them must be discarded.

    Much of the early development of the legend appears in the various works edited under the collective title of Genealogiae Comitum Flandriae [MGH SS 9: 302-336, here abbreviated Gen. Com. Fland.], a collection of nine items (identified here by Roman numerals I-IX) written by various authors over a period of several hundred years, having in common that they involve the genealogy or succession of the counts of Flanders. The two earliest parts, dating from the tenth century, say nothing about the parentage of Baldwin I [I. Witger, Genealogia Arnulfi comitis (pp. 302-4, also an important source for later Carolingian genealogy); II. De Arnulfo comite (p. 304)]. However, Witger was emphasizing the Carolingian ancestry of count Arnulf I, and De Arnulfo comite was concerned only with certain close relatives of Arnulf I, so the fact that they do not mention the parentage of Baldwin I does not mean that they did not know it.

    The earliest source giving Baldwin's supposed genealogy back to Lidéric is Genealogia comitum Flandriae Bertiniana [Gen. Com. Fland. III, pp. 305-8], which states that Lidricus, count of Harlebeck, was father of Ingelrannus, who was father of Audacrus, who was father of Balduinus Ferreus ["Lidricus Harlebeccensis comes genuit Ingelrannum. Ingelrannus genuit Audacrum. Audacer genuit Balduinum Ferreum, qui duxit filiam Karoli Calvi nomine Iudith." MGH SS 9: 305]. In his introduction to this work, Bethmann dates this version to the reign of count Robert II (1093-1111) [MGH SS 9: 305], but the existence of two different versions which diverge after Baldwin V suggests an earlier version composed under Baldwin V or Baldwin VI [see MGH SS 9: 306]. As discussed in more detail below, later versions of Gen. Com. Fland. added major elaborations to this account.

    However, Genealogia comitum Flandriae Bertiniana is not the earliest source to mention Lidéric. That honor goes to Annales Blandinienses, which, under the year 836, in an eleventh century hand, states that "Lidricus comes obiit", followed by "et Arlabeka sepelitur" added in a twelfth century hand [Grierson (1937a), 11; Annales Blandinienses has also been edited by Ludwig Bethmann in MGH SS 5: 20-34, but the fact that "et Arlabeka sepelitur" was in a later hand is not indicated]. One of the sources used by the Annales Blandinienses as we have them today was an earlier version of the same annals from the middle of the tenth century, called the tenth century Annales Blandinienses by Grierson (1937a), which were also used as a source by Annales Elmarenses, Annales Formosolenses, and Annales Elnonenses. These annals are also edited in Grierson (1937a). Annales Elmarenses were first edited by Grierson, while Monumenta Germaniae Historica contains editions of Annales Formosolenses by Bethmann [MGH SS 5: 34-6] and of Annales Elnonenses by Pertz [MGH SS 5: 10-20, with the entries in one twelfth century hand separated and edited as Annales Elnonenses minores (pp.17-20), and the remaining annals edited as Annales Elnonenses maiores (pp. 11-17)]. The Annales Blandinienses also mention Ingelram and Audacer, but with an important difference: although the affiliation of Audacer as father of Baldwin is given, no genealogical affiliations are given for Lidéric or Ingelram. The Chronicon Vedastinum, discussed in more detail under Audacer below, is another relatively early source which gives the name of Baldwin's father without showing any knowledge of his alleged earlier ancestors. This indicates an earlier tradition in which the name of the father of Baldwin I was regarded as known, but in which there is no evidence that any earlier generations in the genealogy were known.

    From this, along with the more detailed individual discussions for Lidéric, Ingelram, and Audacer which appear below, two major points emerge:

    No later than the middle of the eleventh century (and probably as early as the tenth), there were local annalists who believed that Baldwin's father was named Audacer/Odoacer, but who did not indicate any significant details about the latter, or any knowledge of genealogical affiliations for Lidéric or Ingelram.

    The chronology indicated for Lidéric and Ingelram (whose career overlaps ignificantly with that of Baldwin I), as shown by these early sources, does not fit well with the claim that they were respectively great-grandfather and grandfather of Baldwin I of Flanders.

    The natural conclusion is that the name of the father of Baldwin I belongs to an earlier level of the tradition, while the alleged affiliation of Lidéric and Ingelram to Audacer and Baldwin is a later invention, made when the genealogists were seeking to extend the ancestry beyond Baldwin's father, and found two usable names for that purpose in their sources. Although not supported by contemporary evidence, the name of Baldwin's father can be accepted as probable, but the genealogical links to Ingelram and Lidéric need to be rejected as later inventions, even though we can probably accept Lidéric's existence (as we certainly can for Ingelram)
    https://fasg.org/projects/henryproject/data/baldw001.htm

    Odoacer married of Flanders, N.N.. N.N. was born in 813 in Thérouanne, Pas-de-Calais, Nord-Pas-de-Calais, France; died in 860 in France. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]


  2. 5.  of Flanders, N.N. was born in 813 in Thérouanne, Pas-de-Calais, Nord-Pas-de-Calais, France; died in 860 in France.

    Other Events and Attributes:

    • FSID: LB8T-L9H

    Children:
    1. 2. of Flanders, Baldwin I was born in 837 in Laon, Aisne, Picardie, France; died on 2 Jan 879 in Arras, Pas-de-Calais, Nord-Pas-de-Calais, France; was buried in 879 in Abbey of Saint Bertin, Pas-de-Calais, Nord-Pas-de-Calais, France.

  3. 6.  le Chauve, King Charles II was born on 23 Jun 823 in Frankfurt am Main, Frankfurt am Main, Hessen, Germany (son of de France, King Louis I and of Bavaria, Judith); died on 6 Oct 877 in Avrieux, Savoie, Rhône-Alpes, France; was buried after 6 Oct 877 in Basilica of St Denis, Paris, Île-de-France, France.

    Other Events and Attributes:

    • House: House of Carolingian
    • Nickname: The Bald
    • FSID: 2QBY-PCY
    • Military: Between 840 and 843; Carolingian Civil War
    • Life Event: 14 Feb 842; Alliance between Charles the Bald and Louis the German against their brother Lothair I
    • Life Event: 843; Restricted the powers of the king and guaranteed rights of the nobility and clergy.
    • Life Event: 860; King of the West Franks
    • Life Event: 876; King of Italy and the Roman Empire

    Notes:

    King of the Franks, Emperor of the Roman Empire
    Oaths of Strasbourg: 14 Feb 842 AD; Alliance between Charles the Bald and Louis the German against their brother Lothair I
    Charles ΙΙ, also known as Charles the Bald was the youngest son of Louis the Pious and his second wife Judith. He was also a grandson of Charlemagne. Charles was born June 13, 823 in Frankfurt am Main, and was named Charles after his famous and powerful grandfather. His older brothers are Lothair I, Pepin of Aquitaine, and Louis the German.
    Charles married Ermentrude of Orléans, daughter of Odo I, Count of Orléansin, in 842 and they had 10 children: Judith of Flanders, Louis the Stammerer, Charles the Child, Lothair the Lame, Carloman, Rotrude and Ermentrud (both who became nuns), Hildegarde, Gisela, and Godehilde.
    Ermentrude died October 6 869 and in 870 Charles married Richilde of the Ardennes, daughter of Bivin of Gorze, Count of the Ardennes. Together they had 5 more children: Rothilde, Drogo, Pippin, a son who died an infant in 875, and Charles. Unfortunately out of these 5 only Rothilde survived to adulthood.

    Charles the Bald was not bald, he is pictured with a full head of hair. 'The Bald' rather refers to his lack of lands when he was young.

    Charles father Louis the Pious was King of Aquitaine, Emperor of Rome and King of the Franks. Although Charles was his youngest son, Louis named him his heir in 837. Charles would spend most of his life in a power struggle with his older brothers over the lands conquered by their grandfather. Charles older brother Pepin died in 838 and Charles was made King of Aquitaine. His father Louis the Pious died in 840 and war erupted between his sons. Oldest son Lothair consolidated control of Middle Francia and became Emperor of Rome. Charles allied with his brother Louis against their older brother. Louis became King of East Francia (King of Germany) and Charles King of West Francia (King of France)
    After the death of his brother Lothair and then his brothers son Emperor Louis II, Charles traveled to Rome and was crowned Holy Roman Emperor by Pope John VIII on December 25, 875.

    Charles died on 6 October 877 in Brides-les-Bains while crossing the pass of Mont Cenis. He was buried initially at the abbey of Nantua, Burgundy but a few years later, his remains were transferred to the Abbey of Saint-Denis where he had long wished to be buried.

    Charles and Ermentrude had the following children:
    -Judith (c.843–after 866), married first King Ethelwulf of Wessex, second his son King Ethelbald, and third Baldwin I, Margrave of Flanders
    -Louis the Stammerer (846–879)
    -Charles the Child (847–866)
    -Lothair the Lame (848–866), monk in 861, became Abbot of Saint-Germain
    -Carloman (849–876)
    -Rotrude (852–912), a nun, Abbess of Saint-Radegunde
    -Ermentrud (854–877), a nun, Abbess of Hasnon
    -Hildegarde (born 856, died young)
    -Gisela (857–874)
    -Godehilde (864–907)

    The children of Charles and Richilde are:
    -Rothilde (871–929), married Hugues, Count of Bourges and 2nd Roger, Count of Maine.
    -Drogo (872–873)
    -Pippin (873–874)
    -a son (born and died 875)
    -Charles (876–877)
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    “Royal Ancestry: A Study in Colonial & Medieval Families,” Douglas Richardson (2013):
    “CHARLES II the Bald, King of Neustria, 838-840, King of the West Franks, 840-877, King of (western) Lorraine, 870-877, King of Italy, 875-877, Emperor, 875-877, son by his father's 2nd marriage, born at Frankfurt-am-Main 13 June 823. He married (1st) at Quierzy, Aisne 13 Dec. 842 ERMENTRUDE OF ORLÉANS, daughter of Eudes, Count of Orléans, by his wife, Engeltrude. She was born 27 Sept., about 830. They had six sons, Louis (II) [King of Neustria, King of Aquitaine, King of France], Charles [King of Aquitaine], Karlmann (or Carloman) [Abbot of St.-Germain of Auxerre], Lothair [Abbot of St.-Germain of Auxerre], Dreux, and Pépin, and four daughters, Judith, Hildegarde, Ermentrude [Abbess of Hasnon], and Gisela (or Gisele). His wife, Ermentrude, died 6 October 869. He married (2nd) 12 October 869, confirmed at Aix-la-Chapelle 22 Jan. 870 RICHILDE OF GORZE, daughter of Bivin, Count and Abbot of Gorze, by daughter of Boson l'Ancien, count in Italy. They had three children, including one son, Charles, and one daughter, Rothilde (wife of Rodgar [or Roger], Count of Maine). CHARLES II the Bald, Emperor, King of the West Franks, died at Brides-les-Bains (Savoie, Fr.) 6 October 877, and was buried at Nantua monastery, later at St. Denis. His widow, Richilde, living 910, and died before 3 Feb. 911.
    Monumenta Germaniæ Historica SS XIII (1881): 219. (Annales Necrologici Prumienses [necrology of Prüm]: "Anno Domini inc. 877. Karolus, frater eius, Nonas Octob. feliciter obit.”) Birch Cat. Seals in the British Museum 5 (1898): 112 (seal of King Charles II dated A.D. 843 - Oval: bust of a youthful personage, in profile to the right, head crowned with laurel. Legend: + KAROLVS GRATIA DI REX.). Halphen Recueil d'Annales Angevines et Vendômoises (1903): 54-55 (Annales de Vendôme sub A.D. 877: "Karolus imperator obiit, id est Calvus, et filius ejus Hludowicus regnum recepit."). Brandenburg Die Nachkommen Karls des Großen (1935) III 15. Schwennicke Europäische Stammtafeln 1 (1980): 2 (sub Die Karolinger); 2 (1984): 1 (sub Kings of the West Franks). Winter Descs. of Charlemagne (800-1400) (1987): III.15, IV.39-IV.52. Online resource: http.//www.mittelalter-genealogie.de/mittelalter/koenige/frankenreich/karl_2_der_kahle_koenig_von_frankreich_877.html.”

    Charles married d'Orléans, Queen Ermentrude on 13 Dec 842 in France. Ermentrude (daughter of d'Orléans, Count Eudes and de Fézensac, Engeltrude) was born on 27 Sep 823 in Orléans, Loiret, Centre, France; died on 6 Oct 869 in France; was buried after 6 Oct 869 in Saint-Denis, Seine-Saint-Denis, Île-de-France, France. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]


  4. 7.  d'Orléans, Queen Ermentrude was born on 27 Sep 823 in Orléans, Loiret, Centre, France (daughter of d'Orléans, Count Eudes and de Fézensac, Engeltrude); died on 6 Oct 869 in France; was buried after 6 Oct 869 in Saint-Denis, Seine-Saint-Denis, Île-de-France, France.

    Other Events and Attributes:

    • House: Udalriching
    • FSID: LQ5H-F6D

    Notes:

    Ermentrude of Orléans (27 September 823 – 6 October 869) was Queen of the Franks by her marriage to Charles the Bald, Holy Roman Emperor and King of West Francia. She was the daughter of Odo, Count of Orléans and his wife Engeltrude. The epithet 'of Orléans' is not contemporary.

    She and Charles married in 842. Their children were:
    - Judith of Flanders ,b c. 843, married King Æthelwulf of Wessex, King Æthelbald of Wessex, Baldwin I, Margrave of Flanders
    - Louis the Stammerer (846–879)
    - Charles the Child (847–866)
    - Lothar the Lame (848–865), Abbot of Saint-Germain
    - Carloman (849–876)
    - Rotrud (852–912), Abbess of Saint-Radegunde
    - Ermentrud (854–877), Abbess of Hasnon
    - Hildegard (born 856, died a child)
    - Gisela (857–874)
    - Godehilde (864–907)

    French Queen. Born the the daughter of Odo, Comte de Orléans and Ergetrude, at Orleans, Neustria, Loiret, France. She married Charles I of France in 842. The couple had at least nine children, including the future Louis II 'the Stammerer'. She reportedly was well known for her embroidery and had an interest in religious foundations. At least three of her children entered the church, rising to Abbott or Abbess for their respective orders. Additionaly, her husband gave her the Abbey of Chelles. The royal couple separated when the king had his brother-in-law executed for treason in 866, and she retired to a convent. Her name has also been recorded as Hirmentrude and Irmintrud.
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    “Royal Ancestry: A Study in Colonial & Medieval Families,” Douglas Richardson (2013):
    “CHARLES II the Bald, King of Neustria, 838-840, King of the West Franks, 840-877, King of (western) Lorraine, 870-877, King of Italy, 875-877, Emperor, 875-877, son by his father's 2nd marriage, born at Frankfurt-am-Main 13 June 823. He married (1st) at Quierzy, Aisne 13 Dec. 842 ERMENTRUDE OF ORLÉANS, daughter of Eudes, Count of Orléans, by his wife, Engeltrude. She was born 27 Sept., about 830. They had six sons, Louis (II) [King of Neustria, King of Aquitaine, King of France], Charles [King of Aquitaine], Karlmann (or Carloman) [Abbot of St.-Germain of Auxerre], Lothair [Abbot of St.-Germain of Auxerre], Dreux, and Pépin, and four daughters, Judith, Hildegarde, Ermentrude [Abbess of Hasnon], and Gisela (or Gisele). His wife, Ermentrude, died 6 October 869. He married (2nd) 12 October 869, confirmed at Aix-la-Chapelle 22 Jan. 870 RICHILDE OF GORZE, daughter of Bivin, Count and Abbot of Gorze, by daughter of Boson l'Ancien, count in Italy. They had three children, including one son, Charles, and one daughter, Rothilde (wife of Rodgar [or Roger], Count of Maine). CHARLES II the Bald, Emperor, King of the West Franks, died at Brides-les-Bains (Savoie, Fr.) 6 October 877, and was buried at Nantua monastery, later at St. Denis. His widow, Richilde, living 910, and died before 3 Feb. 911.

    Monumenta Germaniæ Historica SS XIII (1881): 219. (Annales Necrologici Prumienses [necrology of Prüm]: "Anno Domini inc. 877. Karolus, frater eius, Nonas Octob. feliciter obit.”) Birch Cat. Seals in the British Museum 5 (1898): 112 (seal of King Charles II dated A.D. 843 - Oval: bust of a youthful personage, in profile to the right, head crowned with laurel. Legend: + KAROLVS GRATIA DI REX.). Halphen Recueil d'Annales Angevines et Vendômoises (1903): 54-55 (Annales de Vendôme sub A.D. 877: "Karolus imperator obiit, id est Calvus, et filius ejus Hludowicus regnum recepit."). Brandenburg Die Nachkommen Karls des Großen (1935) III 15. Schwennicke Europäische Stammtafeln 1 (1980): 2 (sub Die Karolinger); 2 (1984): 1 (sub Kings of the West Franks). Winter Descs. of Charlemagne (800-1400) (1987): III.15, IV.39-IV.52. Online resource: http.//www.mittelalter-genealogie.de/mittelalter/koenige/frankenreich/karl_2_der_kahle_koenig_von_frankreich_877.html.”

    Children:
    1. 3. de France, Judith was born in Oct 844 in Orléans, Loiret, Centre, France; died on 13 Jan 870 in Bruges, Gironde, Aquitaine, France; was buried after 13 Jan 870 in Abbey of Saint Bertin, Pas-de-Calais, Nord-Pas-de-Calais, France.
    2. de France, Louis II was born on 1 Nov 846; died on 10 Apr 879 in Compiègne, Oise, Picardie, France; was buried after 10 Apr 879 in Compiègne, Oise, Picardie, France.


Generation: 4

  1. 12.  de France, King Louis Ide France, King Louis I was born on 16 Apr 778 in Casseneuil, Lot-et-Garonne, Aquitaine, France; was christened on 10 Oct 778 in Casseneuil, Lot-et-Garonne, Aquitaine, France (son of of the Holy Roman Empire, King Charlemagne and von Vinzgau, Hildegard); died on 20 Jun 840 in Ingelheim am Rhein, Mainz-Bingen, Rheinland-Pfalz, Germany; was buried on 1 Jul 840 in Abbey of Saint-Arnould, Metz, Moselle, Lorraine, France.

    Other Events and Attributes:

    • Appointments / Titles: King of Italy
    • House: Carloginian
    • Nickname: The Pious
    • FSID: LZT6-KB5
    • Appointments / Titles: Between 781 and 814; King of Aquitaine
    • Appointments / Titles: Between 814 and 840; Emperor of the West
    • Appointments / Titles: Between 814 and 840; King of the Franks
    • Residence: 19 Jun 840, Ingelheim am Rhein, Mainz-Bingen, Rheinland-Pfalz, Germany; Rheinhausen Hesse (house by the river); (present Rheinhessen)

    Notes:

    Louis the Pious (16 April 778–20 June 840), also called the Fair and the Debonaire, was the King of the Franks and co-emperor with his father, Charlemagne, from 813. He was also King of Aquitaine from 781. As the only surviving son of Charlemagne and Hildegard, he became the sole ruler of the Franks after his father's death in 814, a position which he held until his death, save for the period 833–834, during which he was deposed.

    Louis married firstly Ermengarde of Hesbaye in c. 794. Children:
    1 Lothair (795–855), king of Middle Francia
    2 Pepin (797–838), king of Aquitaine
    3 Adelaide (b. c. 799)
    4 Rotrude (b. 800)
    5 Hildegard (or Matilda) (b. c. 802)
    6 Louis the German (c. 806–876), king of East Francia

    Louis married secondly Judith of Bavaria. Children:
    1 Gisela, married Eberhard of Friuli
    2 Charles the Bald, king of West Francia

    By an unknown concubine (probably Theodelinde of Sens) [citation needed], he had two illegitimate children:
    1 Arnulf of Sens
    2 Alpais

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Louis_the_Pious
    Louis the Pious (778 – 20 June 840), also called the Fair, and the Debonair, was the King of the Franks and co-emperor with his father, Charlemagne, from 813. He was also King of Aquitaine from 781. As the only surviving adult son of Charlemagne

    Louis married of Bavaria, Judith in Feb 819. Judith (daughter of of Bavaria, Duke Welf I and of Sachsen, Heilwig) was born on 19 Feb 797 in Altdorf, Landshut, Bayern, Germany; died on 19 Apr 843 in Tours, Indre-et-Loire, Centre, France; was buried on 19 Apr 843 in Basilica of Saint Martin, Tours, Indre-et-Loire, Centre, France. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]


  2. 13.  of Bavaria, Judith was born on 19 Feb 797 in Altdorf, Landshut, Bayern, Germany (daughter of of Bavaria, Duke Welf I and of Sachsen, Heilwig); died on 19 Apr 843 in Tours, Indre-et-Loire, Centre, France; was buried on 19 Apr 843 in Basilica of Saint Martin, Tours, Indre-et-Loire, Centre, France.

    Other Events and Attributes:

    • Appointments / Titles: Duchess of Bavaria
    • Appointments / Titles: Empress of The Roman Empire
    • Appointments / Titles: Queen of The Franks
    • House: Welf
    • FSID: LZT6-KBL

    Notes:

    Judith of Bavaria was the daughter of Count Welf of Bavaria and Saxon noblewoman, Hedwig. She was born about 797 in Alamannia. Her birth date is based upon the fact that she was 22 years old in December 819 when she became the second wife of Louis the Pious, Carolingian emperor and king of the Franks. Upon her marriage she became Queen of the Franks and Empress of the Romans. Judith and Louis had two children:
    - Gisela, b. 820 married Eberhard of Friuli
    - Charles the Bald, b. 13 June 823

    In 830 while Emperor Louis was campaigning in Brittany, his sons from his first marriage moved to overthrow him. They removed their step-mother Judith from the throne, placed her in the convent of St Radegund at Poitiers, made accusations against her and tried for her 'crimes'. No one could be found to actually file charges against her, however, and she was purged of her charges. Even so she was exiled to Tortona in Italy. Louis attempted to prevent the revolt against him but was captured in 833 and held captive by his sons in Aachen. While he was imprisoned an attempted to murder Judith was prevented. Louis was restored to his throne in 834, with Judith by his side. Louis died in Ingelheim in 840. The widowed Empress supported her son Charles in his military campaigns and saw him crowned in 841. After Charles' marriage, Judith was forced into retirement, her health began to fail in 842 and she died on 19 April 843 in Tours, at about the age of 45. She was buried at the Basilica of Saint Martin, Tours. Her son Charles' first child born in 844 was a daughter, which he named Judith after his mother.
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    “Royal Ancestry: A Study in Colonial & Medieval Families,” Douglas Richardson (2013):

    “LOUIS the Pious, King of Aquitaine, 781-813, Joint emperor, Emperor, 813-814, 834-840, legitimate son, born at Chasseneuil-du-Poitou in Aquitaine in 778, between 16 April and September. He married (1st) about 794 ERMENGARDE OF HASPENGAU, daughter of Ingram, Count of Haspengau. They had Lothair (I) [King of Bavaria, joint Emperor, Emperor], Pépin (or Pippin) (I) [King of Aquitaine], and Ludwig (II) [King of Bavaria, King of the Eastern Franks], and two daughters, Rotrude and Hildegarde. His wife, Ermengarde, died 3 October 818. He married (2nd) in February 819 JUDITH, daughter of Welf I, Count of Altorf, by his wife, Eigilwi (or Heilwich). She was born about 805. They had one son, Charles the Bald [King of the Western Franks, Emperor], and one daughter, Gisela (wife of Eberhard, Margrave of Friuli). By an unknown mistress, he also had one illegitimate son, Arnulf. LOUIS the Pious (or LUDWIG der Fromme) died on an island in the Rhine near Ingelheim 20 June 840, and was buried in the church of the abbey of Saint Arnoul at Metz. His widow, Judith, died at Tours 19 April 843.

    Viollet Prières et Fragments religieux (1870): 47-63. Monumenta Germaniæ Historica SS XIII (1881): 219. (Annales Necrologici Prumienses [necrology of Prüm]: "Anno 840. Ludvicus imperator 12 Kal. Iulii diem obiit."). Monumenta Germaniæ Historica (Necrologia Germaniæ 1) (1888): 275 (Necrologium Augiæ Divitis: "XIII kal. May [19 April] - Judit regina"), 277 (Necrologium Augiæ Divitis: "XI kal. July [21 June] - Hludowicus imperator augustus") Birch Cat. Seals in the British Museum 5 (1898): 112 (seal of Emperor Louis I dated A.D. 816 - Oval: a bust, in profile to the right, crowned with laurel. Legend: + XPE PROTEGE HLVDOVVICVM IMPERATORE.), 112 (undated seal of Emperor Louis I - Oval: bust in profile to the right, crowned with laurel. The drapery fastened on the right shoulder with a button. Legend: + XPE PROTEGE HLVDOVVICVM IMPERATORE.). Halphen Recueil d'Annales Angevines et Vendômoises (1903): 53 (Annales de Vendôme sub A.D 840: "Hludowicus imperator moritur."). Brandenburg Die Nachkommen Karls des Großen (1935) II 6. Schwennicke Europäische Stammtafeln 1 (1980): 2 (sub Die Karolinger); 3(4) (1989): 736 (sub Welfen). Winter Descs. of Charlemagne (800-1400) (1987): II.5, III.9-III.15. Settipani & von Kerrebrouck La Préhistoire des Capetians (1993).
    Children of Louis I (or Ludwig I), by Ermengarde of Haspengau:
    i. LOTHAIR, King of Bavaria, King of Italy, Emperor, married ERMENGARDE OF TOURS [see Line C, Gen. 3].
    Children of Louis I (or Ludwig I), by Judith of Altorf:
    i. CHARLES II the Bald, King of Neustria, King of the West Franks, King of Italy, Emperor [see next].
    ii. GISELA, married EBERHARD, Margrave of Friuli [see Line D, Gen. 3 below].”

    Children:
    1. de France, Princess of the Holy Roman Empire Gisèle was born in 836; died on 5 Jul 874 in St Calixtus Abbey, Cysoing, Nord, Nord-Pas-de-Calais, France; was buried after 5 Jul 874 in St Calixtus Abbey, Cysoing, Nord, Nord-Pas-de-Calais, France.
    2. 6. le Chauve, King Charles II was born on 23 Jun 823 in Frankfurt am Main, Frankfurt am Main, Hessen, Germany; died on 6 Oct 877 in Avrieux, Savoie, Rhône-Alpes, France; was buried after 6 Oct 877 in Basilica of St Denis, Paris, Île-de-France, France.

  3. 14.  d'Orléans, Count Eudes was born in 770 in France; died on 25 May 834; was buried after 25 May 824 in Saint-Denis, Seine-Saint-Denis, Île-de-France, France.

    Other Events and Attributes:

    • Appointments / Titles: Count of Orléans
    • Nickname: Odo I
    • FSID: LYNB-3JZ

    Notes:

    Also know as: Odo I, Count of Orléans

    Odo I (French: Eudes; also Hodo, Uodo, or Udo in contemporary Latin; died 25 May 834) was the Count of Orléans (comes Aurelianensium) following the final deposition of Matfrid until his own deposition a few years later.

    He belonged to the Udalriching family and was a son of Adrian,[1] who had also held the county of Orléans, and possibly of Waldrada, a Nibelungid. Odo first appears as an imperial legate to the Eastern Saxons in 810, when he was captured by the Wilzi. In 811, as count (comes), according to the Annales Fuldenses, he signed a peace treaty with the Vikings.

    According to the Vita Hludowici, in 827, he was named to replace the deposed Matfrid in Orléans. Odo, along with Heribert, a relative, possibly his cousin, were exiled in April 830 by Lothair I and Orléans confiscated. Matfrid was reinstated.

    In 834, while fighting Matfrid and Lambert I of Nantes, partisans of Lothair, Odo was killed as were his brothers William, Guy of Maine, and Theodo, abbot of Saint Martin of Tours.

    Odo's wife was Engeltrude de Fézensac.[2] Their eldest daughter, Ermentrude, married Charles the Bald of West Francia. He left a son William who was executed by his own brother-in-law in 866.

    Eudes married de Fézensac, Engeltrude. Engeltrude was born in 799; died in 853. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]


  4. 15.  de Fézensac, Engeltrude was born in 799; died in 853.

    Other Events and Attributes:

    • FSID: MVLP-YQQ

    Children:
    1. 7. d'Orléans, Queen Ermentrude was born on 27 Sep 823 in Orléans, Loiret, Centre, France; died on 6 Oct 869 in France; was buried after 6 Oct 869 in Saint-Denis, Seine-Saint-Denis, Île-de-France, France.