Seifert, Barbara

Female UNKNOWN - Bef 1703


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Generation: 1

  1. 1.  Seifert, Barbara was born in UNKNOWN in Bedheim, Hildburghausen, Thüringen, Germany (daughter of Seifert, Kilian and Rosenfeld, Anna Margaretha); died before 30 Nov 1703 in Hildburghausen, Hildburghausen, Thüringen, Germany; was buried on 30 Nov 1703 in Hildburghausen, Hildburghausen, Thüringen, Germany.

    Notes:

    Translated by Chip Kalb
    Barbara’s death record:
    The German transcription :

    Fr. Barbara   Pfarrwittwe zü Rappertshaüßen ist
    Mohringin,    den 30 . Nobris [ 1703 ] Christehrlich begraben worden.

    The English translation :

    Mrs Barbara   Pastor’s widow of Rappershausen [ in the Duchy of Saxe-Römhild ] was
    Mohring,         on 30 Nov[ember 1703]. given a Christian and honorable burial.

    Christehrlich = Christlich und ehrlich = “Christian and honorable” — yes, Christ is the German word for “Christian”.  Christus is the German title for Jesus of Nazareth.  It’s because of the Latin influence and it’s very strong in both the German language and culture, especially with one half of Germany in the Catholic Church.  We may say “Pope Francis” but the Germans do NOT call him “Papst Franz”.  They call him “Papst Franziskus” — Pope Franciscus in English.  But, unlike their Dutch brethren, they don’t use the Latin names for all the Popes.  For them, the Popes are Franziskus, Benedikt XVI ( not Benediktus ), Johannes Paul II ( not Johannes Paulus ), Johannes Paul I, Paul VI ( not Paulus ), Johannes XVIII, Pius XII . . . but St Peter is still Hl. Petrus.

    Family/Spouse: Möring, Johann Anton Thomæ. Johann (son of Thomæ, Christoph and Hartmann, Catharina) was born before 9 Apr 1631 in Hildburghausen, Hildburghausen, Thüringen, Germany; died on 27 Jan 1690 in Rappershausen, Rhon-Grabfeld, Bayern, Germany; was buried after 27 Jan 1690 in Rappershausen, Rhon-Grabfeld, Bayern, Germany. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

    Children:
    1. Möring, Johann Thomæ was born on 14 Oct 1660 in Rappershausen, Rhon-Grabfeld, Bayern, Germany; died on 1 Nov 1660 in Rappershausen, Rhon-Grabfeld, Bayern, Germany; was buried on 1 Nov 1660 in Rappershausen, Rhon-Grabfeld, Bayern, Germany.
    2. Möring, Johann Tobias Thomæ was born before 18 Nov 1662 in Rappershausen, Rhon-Grabfeld, Bayern, Germany; died on 22 Jul 1727 in Schalkau, Sonneberg, Thüringen, Germany; was buried after 22 Jul 1727 in Schalkau, Sonneberg, Thüringen, Germany.
    3. Möring, Anna Cordula Thomæ was born on 18 Mar 1667 in Rappershausen, Rhon-Grabfeld, Bayern, Germany; died on 7 Apr 1711 in Milz, Hildburghausen, Thüringen, Germany; was buried after 7 Apr 1711 in Milz, Hildburghausen, Thüringen, Germany.
    4. Möring, Juliane Maria Thomæ was born before 3 Jan 1669 in Rappershausen, Rhon-Grabfeld, Bayern, Germany; died on 13 Feb 1670 in Rappershausen, Rhon-Grabfeld, Bayern, Germany.
    5. Möring, Magdalena Barbara Thomæ was born before 17 Mar 1671 in Rappershausen, Rhon-Grabfeld, Bayern, Germany; died in DECEASED.

Generation: 2

  1. 2.  Seifert, Kilian was born on 18 Mar 1599 in Coburg, Bayern, Germany (son of Seifert, Conrad and Hopf, Dorothea); died on 7 Nov 1676 in Bedheim, Hildburghausen, Thüringen, Germany; was buried on 12 Nov 1676 in Bedheim, Hildburghausen, Thüringen, Germany.

    Other Events and Attributes:

    • Education: Gymnasium Casimirianum Academicum, Coburg, Bayern, Germany
    • Education: Coburg, Bayern, Germany; Ratschule
    • Education: 1618, University of Jena, Jena, Jena, Thüringen, Germany
    • Education: Between 1620 and 1622, University of Wittenberg, Wittenberg, Sachsen-Anhalt, Germany
    • Life Event: Between 1622 and 1624, Coburg, Bayern, Germany; Teacher
    • Ordained: 3 Feb 1628, Rodach, Coburg, Bayern, Germany; Lutheran Archdeacon
    • Life Event: Between 2 Feb 1634 and 1638, Ebenhards, Hildburghausen, Thüringen, Germany; Lutheran Pastor
    • Life Event: Between 4 Jun 1638 and 1676, Bedheim, Hildburghausen, Thüringen, Germany; Lutheran Pastor

    Notes:

    He served the churches of Coburg, Rodach, Ebenhards and Bedheim.

    5. Kilian Seifert, Coburgenfis, Joh. Rosenfelds Endam, born 1599. When his father learned the craft and became a cloth maker, he had already helped his father weave 11 pieces of cloth. But he can be persuaded by an old cloth maker to go back to school, go through all classes, and be able to go to Wittenberg in 1620. He had to go home after 2 years because of the extremely harmful tipper system, and a Pædagogiam with Herr von Lichtenstein accept, whereby he provided at the same time the discharged school service. Anno 1624. He defended under Herr D. Find some Canones theologicos. A. 1628. He was appointed archdiaconate in Rodach, ordained on February 3rd and then also confirmed. Then he had the misfortune that in the Rodacher fire in 1632 his belongings exposed everything to him in smoke. A.1634. towards Candlemas he moved to the parish of Ebenhards or Mcbrig, where he had been appointed. But when the enemy came into the country after the lost battle in Nördlingen, he had to stay abroad for a while with the permission of his listeners, and leave his little fortune to the enemy and unfaithful neighbors to plunder, even when he came out again. endure all the hardships of the war until, on June 4th, 1638, after the death of his father-in-law, he was called to the parish of Bedheim. Also he faithfully held his office until 1676. November 7th, since he was 77 years old and 54 years old and had served at school and church sec. has died. M. Sebaft delivered the funeral sermon. Guth, Superint. to Hildburghaufen. vid. peter Franck. IC Thomas p. 68t. f M. Groß in the historical encyclopedia of evangelical jubilation priests Part II p. 211-214 So find in 108 years, viz. from 1568 to 1676 he was no more than three pastors in Bedheim.

    Kilian married Rosenfeld, Anna Margaretha. Anna (daughter of Rosenfeld, Johannes and Faber, Barbara) was born in 1614 in Römhild, Hildburghausen, Thüringen, Germany; died on 20 Oct 1676 in Bedheim, Hildburghausen, Thüringen, Germany; was buried on 24 Oct 1676 in Bedheim, Hildburghausen, Thüringen, Germany. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]


  2. 3.  Rosenfeld, Anna Margaretha was born in 1614 in Römhild, Hildburghausen, Thüringen, Germany (daughter of Rosenfeld, Johannes and Faber, Barbara); died on 20 Oct 1676 in Bedheim, Hildburghausen, Thüringen, Germany; was buried on 24 Oct 1676 in Bedheim, Hildburghausen, Thüringen, Germany.

    Notes:

    Daughter of Lutheran Pastor Johann Rosenfeld and his wife Barbara Faber. He sired a long line of Pastors and wives of Pastors.

    Children:
    1. 1. Seifert, Barbara was born in UNKNOWN in Bedheim, Hildburghausen, Thüringen, Germany; died before 30 Nov 1703 in Hildburghausen, Hildburghausen, Thüringen, Germany; was buried on 30 Nov 1703 in Hildburghausen, Hildburghausen, Thüringen, Germany.


Generation: 3

  1. 4.  Seifert, Conrad was born in UNKNOWN in Neustadt an der Saale, Rhon-Grabfeld, Bayern, Germany; died in DECEASED.

    Other Events and Attributes:

    • Occupation: Cloth Maker

    Notes:

    It is noted that he emigrated. Was it to the United States? Conrad Seifert is a very common name.

    Conrad married Hopf, Dorothea. Dorothea was born in UNKNOWN in Steinau an der Straße, Main-Kinzig-Kreis, Hessen, Germany; died in DECEASED. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]


  2. 5.  Hopf, Dorothea was born in UNKNOWN in Steinau an der Straße, Main-Kinzig-Kreis, Hessen, Germany; died in DECEASED.
    Children:
    1. 2. Seifert, Kilian was born on 18 Mar 1599 in Coburg, Bayern, Germany; died on 7 Nov 1676 in Bedheim, Hildburghausen, Thüringen, Germany; was buried on 12 Nov 1676 in Bedheim, Hildburghausen, Thüringen, Germany.

  3. 6.  Rosenfeld, Johannes was born on 23 Apr 1582 in Scherneck, Coburg, Bayern, Germany (son of Rosenfeld, Johannes and Schade, Dorothea); died on 21 Nov 1637 in Bedheim, Hildburghausen, Thüringen, Germany.

    Other Events and Attributes:

    • Education: Between 1606 and 1612, University of Jena, Jena, Jena, Thüringen, Germany
    • Ordained: 27 Sep 1612, Coburg, Bayern, Germany
    • Life Event: 28 Sep 1612, Römhild, Hildburghausen, Thüringen, Germany; Deacon
    • Life Event: 1620, Bedheim, Hildburghausen, Thüringen, Germany; Substitute Lutheran Pastor
    • Life Event: 1625, Bedheim, Hildburghausen, Thüringen, Germany; Lutheran Pastor

    Johannes married Faber, Barbara on 16 Feb 1613 in Bedheim, Hildburghausen, Thüringen, Germany. Barbara (daughter of Faber, Maximilian and Seitz, Susanna) was born in Oct 1592 in Bedheim, Hildburghausen, Thüringen, Germany; died in DECEASED in Bedheim, Hildburghausen, Thüringen, Germany. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]


  4. 7.  Faber, Barbara was born in Oct 1592 in Bedheim, Hildburghausen, Thüringen, Germany (daughter of Faber, Maximilian and Seitz, Susanna); died in DECEASED in Bedheim, Hildburghausen, Thüringen, Germany.
    Children:
    1. 3. Rosenfeld, Anna Margaretha was born in 1614 in Römhild, Hildburghausen, Thüringen, Germany; died on 20 Oct 1676 in Bedheim, Hildburghausen, Thüringen, Germany; was buried on 24 Oct 1676 in Bedheim, Hildburghausen, Thüringen, Germany.
    2. Rosenfeld, Johannes Hartmann died in 1698 in Bedheim, Hildburghausen, Thüringen, Germany.


Generation: 4

  1. 12.  Rosenfeld, Johannes was born in 1504 in Heubach, Schmalkalden-Meiningen, Thüringen, Germany; died on 31 Dec 1606 in Scherneck, Coburg, Bayern, Germany.

    Other Events and Attributes:

    • Education: 1561, University of Jena, Jena, Jena, Thüringen, Germany; Graduated 1/2 of 1561 after 3 years of study.
    • Life Event: Between 1566 and 1567, Scherneck, Coburg, Bayern, Germany; Substitute Lutheran Pastor
    • Ordained: 1566, Germany; right Day Simonis and Judae by Stössel
    • Life Event: Between 1567 and 1606, Scherneck, Coburg, Bayern, Germany; Paster with branches in Grosheirath and Rossach
    • Life Event: 1569, Scherneck, Coburg, Bayern, Germany; Visitation: completely rude, unpaid, has declined Vict. not signed, she refuses
    • Life Event: 1578, Scherneck, Coburg, Bayern, Germany; Visitation: admonished to study more diligently
    • Life Event: 1583, Scherneck, Coburg, Bayern, Germany; Visitation: Has 6 children who can probably pray

    Notes:

    “Vict.” is probably the Victimatio, the Latin word for the statement made by the victim against the offender.  It’s an archaic and very rare word.  It doesn’t show up in Google searches and it’s not in the Oxford Classical Latin Dictionary.  But, since the Reformers liked to use a lot of Latin words, it’s the only possible word that would fit the abbreviation in the context of the actions of both the Rev. Johannes Rosenfeld and his wife, Dorothea Schade.

    The key clue is in the Visitation of 1569.  It stated, in your words, that Johannes was “completely rude”.  His congregation probably found him so unpleasant that they wouldn’t pay him a decent salary.  ( In those days, it was cheaper to drive out the priests and take over their churches in the name of the Reformation, especially when the sovereign was Protestant.  In 1569, the sovereign of Scherneck was the Duke of Saxony, Johann Wilhelm, the uncle of our Johann Casimir.  The Duchy of Saxe-Coburg, including Scherneck, would not be created until 1572. )  Dorothea probably felt the same way about him, too, and complained to the Visitationers, who would have written down all her words into a Victimatio ( a combo of the Latin word for “victim” and the Latin suffix, —tio, used to denote “statement” ).  But she probably wanted only sympathetic ears, not a public airing of dirty laundry, so she would have been so mortified by the sight of her Victimatio that she would have refused to sign it.

    Johannes married Schade, Dorothea. Dorothea was born in UNKNOWN in Germany; died in DECEASED in Germany. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]


  2. 13.  Schade, Dorothea was born in UNKNOWN in Germany; died in DECEASED in Germany.
    Children:
    1. 6. Rosenfeld, Johannes was born on 23 Apr 1582 in Scherneck, Coburg, Bayern, Germany; died on 21 Nov 1637 in Bedheim, Hildburghausen, Thüringen, Germany.

  3. 14.  Faber, Maximilian was born on 7 Nov 1543 in Schalkau, Sonneberg, Thüringen, Germany; died on 16 Mar 1625 in Bedheim, Hildburghausen, Thüringen, Germany.

    Other Events and Attributes:

    • FSID: K45F-WVS
    • Education: Between 1562 and 1568, University of Jena, Jena, Jena, Thüringen, Germany
    • Life Event: Between 1568 and 1625, Bedheim, Hildburghausen, Thüringen, Germany; Lutheran Pastor
    • Ordained: 17 May 1568, Jena, Jena, Thüringen, Germany

    Maximilian married Seitz, Susanna on 29 Jun 1568 in Bedheim, Hildburghausen, Thüringen, Germany. Susanna (daughter of Seitz, Georg) was born in 1545 in Bedheim, Hildburghausen, Thüringen, Germany; died in DECEASED in Bedheim, Hildburghausen, Thüringen, Germany. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]


  4. 15.  Seitz, Susanna was born in 1545 in Bedheim, Hildburghausen, Thüringen, Germany (daughter of Seitz, Georg); died in DECEASED in Bedheim, Hildburghausen, Thüringen, Germany.

    Other Events and Attributes:

    • FSID: KZ2S-ZLV
    • Name: Susanne Seitz

    Children:
    1. 7. Faber, Barbara was born in Oct 1592 in Bedheim, Hildburghausen, Thüringen, Germany; died in DECEASED in Bedheim, Hildburghausen, Thüringen, Germany.