Anna married Groß, Heinz in UNKNOWN. Heinz was born about 1220 in Nürnberg, Nürnberg, Bayern, Germany; died in 1293 in Nürnberg, Nürnberg, Bayern, Germany. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

Notes:

From Hans-Dietrich Lemmel

Heinz Groß - the rich one
◆ Father: Heinz Groß

(* about? 1250), † zw 1314/1317

In Nuremberg, first documented 1276-1306. Death between 1314-1317.

∞1) (about? 1273) with Sofie v. Vestenberg N631

(* about? 1250), † about? 1286

her father: Conrad v. Vestenberg Nc44 , (* about? 1215)

∞2) (about? 1287) with Gisela Esler N629

(* about? 1265), † after 1339

Sister of the mayor Conrad Esler .

her father: Konrad Esler N600 , (* 1215)
documented in 1253 in Bamberg. 1276 with his son Konrad citizen to Bamberg. See Eslr-21 / a

Children:
from 1st marriage:
1. Margarete Gross Nn81 , (* about? 1274)

∞ with Heinrich Geusmid N664

(* about? 1265)

1298-1336 documented, ∞ Margret ... 1306 mayor. See Gsm-22 / h

his parents: Ropold / Rapoto Gewsmyd N665 , (* about? 1230)
1270-1288 in Nuremberg documentary. See Gsm-21 / r ; ∞ with (Elisabeth) Pfinzing N666 , (* about? 1240).

2. Heinrich, (* about? 1276) -, see Gros-23 / b

3. Conrad, c. 1280 - mayor Nbg, "the founder", see Gros-23 / e

4. Catharina Groß N771 , (* about? 1282), † after 1343
(sister of the mayor Conrad Groß)

∞ with Konrad Waldstromer N609

(* about? 1275), † 28.12.1357

His name is Stromer . After being loaned to the Nuremberg Forestry Office, he is alternately called Stromer and Waldstromer . "Konrad III". See Wstr-23 / a

his parents: Conrad Stromeir gen.Waldstromer N770 , (* about? 1245), † 3.2.1307
Forstmeister in Nuremberg. Documented 1270-1307. See Stro-22 / w ; ∞ (about? 1275) with Margarete Parsberger N610 , (*? 1250?
1309 ).

from 2nd marriage:
5. Bartholomew, (* 1288), see Gros-23 / i

6. Philipp, (* about? 1290) - council builder in Nuremberg, see Gros-23 / u

7. Anna Groß Ni56 , (* about? 1295), † 1357
No children.

∞ with Conrad Grundherr Ni57

(* about? 1295)

his parents: Werner dJ landlord N333 , (* about? 1255), † 1303
See Gru-22 / a ( Er ∞1) before 1289 with Kunigunde Turprecht H042 , (* about? 1265) ) ; ∞ (about? 1295) with Kunigunde Holzschuher H017 , (* about? 1275).

Regesten:
• Heinrich Groß / Magnus , also Reichheinz , Dives

• 1274-1298 , ext. 1306, † 1317

• ∞1) Sophie v. Vestenberg , † before 1298

• ∞2) Gisela Esler , † after 1339, sister of the mayor Conrad Esler .
[A.Scharr: The ans. Citizen of Nuremberg, in: Gen.Jb. Bd.3 1963 p.16]

• In addition to the above children:

• Ulrich Groß , called 1315f., Married ?, † after 1350?

• Eberhard, monk ?, † 1331.
[Bullemer: Great]

• Berthold VII Pfinzing ∞ 1340 with ... Grosin , Tv Heinrich Gros ∞ with ... Eslerin .
[Biedermann plaque 396, Pfinzing]

• 1276: Friedrich and Herdegen the Holzschuher are Burgmannen of the burgrave Friedrich in his castrum Kraftshof ... Witnesses: Hermann and Sifrid called the Ebener , Heinrich by the surname Groß , Conrad called by Neuenmark , Berthold called Pfinzing Schultheiß in Nuremberg, Conrad called Stromaier , Wernher called Nützel , relatives (cognati) by Friedrich Holzschuher . Sealed by Friedrich Holzschuher alone, as his brother Herdegen does not have his own seal.
[Nuremberg Yearbooks Vol. 1-2, 1834, p.54]

Apparently from a ministerial or landed gentry residing south of Nuremberg.

• As early as 1283 citizens in Nuremberg.

• In 1298 he sold to the monastery Ebrach the bailiwick of this to pass over the village Katzwang.

• Konrad, probably his eldest son, first documented in 1305.
[W. Schultheiß: Money and Financial Transactions ... p.67]

• Alleged parents (not assignable): The "Grindige Heinz" ∞ Anna Straß / Strezz from Jahrsdorf.

• Heinrich Groß of the "Reichheintz" at the beginning of the main sequence. Also "Heinricus Magnus" . Documented 1276-1306.

• Henricus Gross , civis in Nuremberg, d. Sep. 6. 1284 (or 1283).

• Geisel Groß , Wwe of the "Grosse Heintzen", buys a bread bench at Sebalduskirchhof on 9.6.1339.

• His descendants s. [Friedrich Bullemer : The Nuremberg patrician family Groß in the 14th century, in: Bl.f.fränk.Fam'kde Bd.13 1989 p.137-166.]

• Scharr states that the daughter Catharina "probably" comes from the first marriage with Sophie v. Vestenberg.

• According to Gottlob Heckel, the grand come from the Reichs-Dienstmannen-Sex of the Groß v . (Hilpolt) Stein.
[Scharr: Waldstromer, MVGN 52 p.23]

According to miracle the son Konrad is to come from the first marriage with v. Vestenberg [miracle: "Pfinzing" p.39].

• According to Reddig, the son Konrad comes from the second marriage: "From the second marriage Heinrich Groß 'with Gisela donkey was towards the end of the 1280s Konrad Groß " (sources: mayor, Knefelkamp). [WFReddig: citizen hospital and episcopal city, Bamberg 1998, S.48]

→ Konrad was born according to his age of death around 1280 and not until the end of the 1280s. Therefore, he probably comes from the first marriage (HDL).

• The son Philipp from the marriage Heinrich ∞ v. Vestenberg.
[B.Aign: AL Zinn, Gen.Jahrbuch Vol.45 / 46 2008]

→ Or from the marriage Esler? (HDL)

• In [B.Aign: AL Zinn, Gen.Jahrbuch Bd.45 / 46 2008] it says: Heinrich Groß ∞ 1285 with Sofie von Vestenberg , she * around 1270 in Steyerwald, daughter of the knight Konrad v.Vestenberg , who around 1293 married. This is not possible in time (HDL).

• 1303/1313: Heinrich Groß , a citizen of Nuremberg, has 2 tenths in Feldbrecht (near Neustadt / Aisch) and asks to transfer these goods to his sons.
[Internet Database 2013 Hochstift Würzburg Lehenbuch 1303-1313]

Regesta to Sofie v. Vestenberg:
• For her was stated: † before 1298. Because of the second marriage of her husband Heinz Gross, she would have died shortly after 1285. (HDL)

• 10.8.1340: Jahrestagstiftung of Konrad Groß for his parents Heinrich and Suffey.
[Miracle p.39 footnote 36]

Regesta to Conrad v. Vestenberg:
[Bullemer: Large p.139]

Regesta to Gisela Esler:
[Miracle MVGN 49 p.38] - [Scharr: Waldstromer, MVGN 52 p. 23]

Regesta to Margarete Gross:
• Bullemer suspects that Margret, the wife of Heinrich Geusmid , is the daughter of Heinz Groß .
[Bullemer, Great]

• Age-appropriate, she can only come from the first marriage of Heinz Gross (HDL).

Regest to Catharina Groß:
• † after 1343 [Bullemer: Great]

[Scharr: Waldstromer, MVGN 52 p.18,22]

• Comp. [B.Aign: AL Zinn, Gen.Jahrbuch Vol.45 / 46 2008]

Regesta to Kunigunde Holzschuher:
• Cunigunda Holzschuherin , consort Mr. Werner Junior landlord , assessor at the Imperial Land Court and Senator to Nuremberg, married anno 1289, † anno 1303.
[Biedermann panel 166 Holzschuher, there, however, as a father another Heinrich Holzschuher stated, which agewise wrong. ]

Heinz married Esler, Gisela about 1287 in Nürnberg, Nürnberg, Bayern, Germany. Gisela (daughter of Esler, Konrad) was born about 1265 in Nürnberg, Nürnberg, Bayern, Germany; died after 1339 in Nürnberg, Nürnberg, Bayern, Germany. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

Heinz married von Vestenberg, Sofie about 1273 in Nürnberg, Nürnberg, Bayern, Germany. Sofie (daughter of von Vestenberg, Conrad) was born about 1250 in Germany; died about 1286 in Nürnberg, Nürnberg, Bayern, Germany. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

Konrad married Zollner named Geyer, Agnes about 1310 in Bamberg, Bamberg, Bayern, Germany. Agnes (daughter of Geyer, Friedrich and Zoellner, Agnes) was born about 1295 in Bamberg, Bamberg, Bayern, Germany; died on 13 Aug 1342 in Bamberg, Bamberg, Bayern, Germany. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

Margaret married Geusmid, Heinrich in UNKNOWN in Nürnberg, Nürnberg, Bayern, Germany. Heinrich (son of Gewsmyd, Rapoto and Pfinzing, Elisabeth) was born about 1265 in Nürnberg, Nürnberg, Bayern, Germany; died after 1336 in Nürnberg, Nürnberg, Bayern, Germany. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

Notes:

Heinrich Stromer N613 - in Nuremberg on the Salzmarkt
Parents: Stro-22 / a Conrad Stromer N578 , (Sofie?) Esler N612

(* about? 1270), † 30.4.1347 in Nuremberg

1313: Mr. Hainrich, Mr. Conrat Stromeir's son. 1323 at the salt market.

∞1) (about? 1291) with (Kunigunde) Gnatznapf N775

(* about? 1272)

8 children Stromer.

her father: Konrad Glatznapf Ni17 , (* about? 1255), † 1329
1316 councilman in Nuremberg. ∞ with Adelheid....

∞2) (about? 1324) with Margarete Geusmid N663

(* about? 1295), † 24.11.1350

her parents: Heinrich Geusmid N664 , (* about? 1265)
1298-1336 documentary, ∞ Margret ... 1306 mayor. See Gsm-22 / h ; ∞ with Margarete Gross Nn81 , (* about? 1274).

Children:
from 1st marriage:
1. Peter, * 1292 - politician, inventor of softwood seeds , see Stro-24 / a

2. Conrad Stromeir, (* about? 1300) - at the Milchmarkt in Nuremberg, see Stro-24 / b

3. Margarete Stromer N871 , (* about? 1310/1315), † 1350

∞ (about? 1330/1335) with Albrecht Behaim Nj00

* 1288, † 1359

Councilman in Nuremberg. See Beh-23 / o

his parents: Albrecht Behaim N731 , * 6.2.1250, † 6.10.1342 in Nuremberg, 92 years old
merchant in Nuremberg, the spices from Venice moved. Since 1288 in the council, mayor of several times. See Beh-22 / a ; ∞ 1.10.1280 with Ursula Kingfisher N732 , (* about? 1262), † 25.5.1328 in Nuremberg St. Cath ..

he ∞1) (about? 1315) with Agnes Ebner Hb84

(* about? 1291)

he ∞3) after 1350 with Cunegunda Weigel Nj02

(* about? 1320)

4th Heinrich Stromeir N866 , (* about? 1315/1320), † between 1350/1355
childless.

∞ with Gerhaus Koler N867

(* about? 1325)

Died without children.

her parents: Erkenbrecht Koler N671 , (* about? 1280), † probably 1340
1311 Schultheiß, from 1315 Schöffe in Nuremberg. See Colr-23 / e ; ∞2) (about? 1325) with Gerhaus Pfinzing No70 , (* ca.? 1304)
erw. 1335/1360, wife, then widow of Erkenbrecht Koler; her son Erkenbrecht. See Pfin-24 / ef ( Sie ∞2) (about? 1341) with Otto Coler gen.Forstmeister H895 , (* about? 1305), † 11.4.1351
see Colr-23 / o ) .

from 2nd marriage:
5th Cunrat Stromer N820 , (* about? 1325), † 1398 in Milan

6. Franz, (* about? 1327) - in Nuremberg, see Stro-24 / c

7. Ulman / Ulrich, * 6.1.1329 - wholesale merchant in Nuremberg, see Stro-24 / d

8. Andreas, (* about? 1330) - alderman in Nuremberg., See Stro-24 / e

Regesten:
• Has 18 children out of 2 marriages.
[G.Wunder: "Pfintzing" MVGN 52 p.20,37]

Councilor Nuremberg, † 1346, ∞1) Tv Conrad Glaßnapf ; ∞2) 1298 Margaret Geuschmidt , † 1350, Tv Heinrich Geuschmidt , imperial mayor.

• From his first marriage: Peter * 1292; Heinrich; Marg. ∞ Behaim ; the nuns Agnes, Clara, Gerhauss; Conrad.

• Second marriage: Albrecht unmarried; Erhard ∞ Volkamer ; Nuns Margarete, Catharina and two daughters without giving their first name; Andreas; Franz; Ulmann; Conrad † 1358 in Mayland.
[Biedermann panel 462 B]

[Scharr: Waldstromer, MVGN 52 p.20, 37]

• Children: [Stromer: Hochfinanz]

→ Birthdays and order of children estimated by me. Further details and children see [Biedermann panel 462B]. Marg. Geuschmidt states here: "married in the year 1298". This year can not be correct. 1298 is at most the marriage of Marg. Geuschmidt's parents. The first wife had 8 children, with Peter born in 1292 arguably as the oldest. Since the second marriage may have been impossible in 1298. (HDL)

Regesten zu (Kunigunde) Gnatznapf:
• (Kunigunde), Tv Conrad Glatznapf ∞ Adelheid.
[Scharr: Forest Streamers p.38]

Regesta to Konrad Glatznapf:
• Konrad Glatznapf ∞ Adelheid.
[Scratching]

• Conrad glass bowl , 1316 council man in Nuremberg, † 1329.
[B.Aign: AL tin, Gen.Jahrbuch Bd.45 / 46 2008]

• 1303/1313: Albert " Kruter " of Nuremberg and Konrad "Gnasnapf" , his father, have to fief the village Hennenbach (district Ansbach) ...
[Internet database 2013 Hochstift Würzburg Lehenbuch 1303-1313]

Regesta to Margarete Geusmid:
[Scharr: Forest Streamers p.38]

Regesta to Margarete Gross:
• Bullemer suspects that Margret, the wife of Heinrich Geusmid , is the daughter of Heinz Groß .
[Bullemer, Great]

• Age-appropriate, she can only come from the first marriage of Heinz Gross (HDL).

Regesta to Heinrich Stromeir:
[Scharr: Waldstromer p.39]

Regests to Gerhaus Koler:
• Gerhaus, Erkenbrecht Kolers daughter, has Heinrich Stromer . In 1374 she buys Leibding to Franz, Franz Stromer's son, and to Uhlein, Erkenbrecht Koler's son.
[Miracle: Col. p.148]

• Gerhauß Colerin called Forstmeisterin , died without children, ∞ Herr Heinrich Stromer , † 1348.
[Biedermann Tafel 599]

Regesten to Cunrat Stromer:
Conrad junior Stromer von Reichenbach died in Milan around the year 13x8 and was buried there in the choir by the barefoot.
[Biedermann Plate 462 B] No further information. The badly printed year could be called 1398. (HDL)

Margarete married Stromer, Heinrich von Reichenbach about 1324 in Nürnberg, Nürnberg, Bayern, Germany. Heinrich (son of Stromer, Conrad von Reichenbach and Esler, Sofie) was born about 1268 in Nürnberg, Nürnberg, Bayern, Germany; died on 30 Apr 1347 in Nürnberg, Nürnberg, Bayern, Germany; was buried after 30 Apr 1347 in St Lorenz, Nürnberg, Nürnberg, Bayern, Germany. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]