verch Griffin, Margaret

Female UNKNOWN - DECEASED


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Generation: 1

  1. 1.  verch Griffin, Margaret was born in UNKNOWN; died in DECEASED.

    Other Events and Attributes:

    • Appointments / Titles: Lady
    • FSID: 9Z4K-97L
    • Name: Margaret ap Griffin
    • Name: Margaret vch Griffith
    • Name: Margaret vch Griffith

    Family/Spouse: ap Goronwy, Rhys. Rhys (son of of Iskennen, Goronwy) was born in 955 in Wales; died in DECEASED in Wales. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

    Children:
    1. 2. ap Rhys, Elidur  Descendancy chart to this point was born in 1217 in Carmarthenshire, Wales; died in 1283 in Wales.


Generation: 2

  1. 2.  ap Rhys, Elidur Descendancy chart to this point (1.Margaret1) was born in 1217 in Carmarthenshire, Wales; died in 1283 in Wales.

    Other Events and Attributes:

    • Appointments / Titles: of Iskennen
    • Name: Elider
    • Name: Elider
    • Name: Elider
    • Name: Elider
    • Name: Elider ap Rhys
    • Name: Elider ap Rhys
    • Name: Elider ap Rhys
    • Name: Elider ap Rhys
    • Name: Elider ap Rhys
    • Name: Elider ap Rhys
    • Name: Elider ap Rhys
    • Name: Elider ap Rhys
    • Name: Elider ap Rhys
    • Name: Elider ap Rhys
    • Name: Elider ap Rhys
    • Name: Elider ap Rhys
    • Name: Elider ap- Rhys
    • Name: Elider ap- Rhys
    • Name: Elider ap- Rhys
    • Name: Elider ap- Rhys
    • Name: Elidir
    • Name: Elidir
    • Name: Elidir
    • Name: Elidir
    • Name: Elidir Ap Rhys
    • Name: Elidir Ap Rhys
    • Name: Elidir Ap Rhys
    • Name: Elidir Ap Rhys
    • Name: Elidir Ap Rhys
    • Name: Elidir Ap Rhys
    • Name: Elidir Ap Rhys
    • Name: Elidir Ap Rhys
    • Name: Elidir None
    • Name: Elidir None
    • Name: Elidir None
    • Name: Elidir None
    • Name: Elidyr ap Rhys
    • Name: Elidyr ap Rhys
    • Name: Elidyr ap Rhys
    • Name: Elidyr ap Rhys
    • Name: Ellider ( Ap) Rhys
    • Name: Ellider ( Ap) Rhys
    • Name: Ellider ( Ap) Rhys
    • Name: Ellider ( Ap) Rhys
    • Name: Ellider (Ap) Rhys
    • Name: Ellider (Ap) Rhys
    • Name: Ellider (Ap) Rhys
    • Name: Ellider (Ap) Rhys
    • Name: Ellider Ap. Rhys
    • Name: Ellider Ap. Rhys
    • Name: Ellider Ap. Rhys
    • Name: Ellider Ap. Rhys
    • Name: Ellider Rhys
    • Name: Ellider Rhys
    • Name: Ellider Rhys
    • Name: Ellider Rhys
    • Name: Elyder Ap Rhys
    • Name: Elyder Ap Rhys
    • Name: Elyder Ap Rhys
    • Name: Elyder Ap Rhys

    Family/Spouse: verch Philip, Gladwys. Gladwys (daughter of ap Y Bah, Philip and ap Rhys, Gladis) was born in 1220 in Morgannwg Gwlad (Historical), Glamorgan, Wales; died in UNKNOWN in Wales. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

    Children:
    1. 3. Dhu, Elidur  Descendancy chart to this point was born in Wales; died between 8 Jan 1250 and 8 Jan 1305 in Wales.


Generation: 3

  1. 3.  Dhu, Elidur Descendancy chart to this point (2.Elidur2, 1.Margaret1) was born in Wales; died between 8 Jan 1250 and 8 Jan 1305 in Wales.

    Other Events and Attributes:

    • Appointments / Titles: [Knight/Seplchr]
    • Name: Elider Ddy
    • Name: Elidor Fitz- Uryan Knight of the Sepuicher
    • Birth: Between 8 Jan 1214 and 8 Jan 1305, Wales

    Family/Spouse: Unknown. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

    Children:
    1. 4. ap Elider, Philip  Descendancy chart to this point was born in 1170 in Wales; died in DECEASED in Wales.


Generation: 4

  1. 4.  ap Elider, Philip Descendancy chart to this point (3.Elidur3, 2.Elidur2, 1.Margaret1) was born in 1170 in Wales; died in DECEASED in Wales.

    Other Events and Attributes:

    • FSID: LCSZ-NH6
    • Name: Philip ap Elidir
    • Name: Philip ap- Elider Fitz- Uryan
    • Name: Phillip ap Elder Fitz- Uryan
    • Name: Phillip ap Elder Fitz- Uryan
    • Name: Phillip ap Elider Fitz Uryan
    • Name: Phillip Ap Elidir Fitz- Uryan
    • Name: Phillip Ap Elidor Fitz- Uryan
    • Name: Phillip ap_ Elider Fitz_ Uryan
    • Name: Phillip ap- Elider FitzUryan
    • Name: Phillip ap. Elder Fetz Uryan
    • Name: Phillip Fitz Uryan

    Family/Spouse: verch David, Glady. Glady (daughter of Vras, David) was born in UNKNOWN in Wales; died in DECEASED in Wales. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

    Children:
    1. 5. ap Elidyr Ddu, Philip  Descendancy chart to this point was born in 1325 in Llandeilo, Carmarthenshire, Wales; died in DECEASED in Wales.


Generation: 5

  1. 5.  ap Elidyr Ddu, Philip Descendancy chart to this point (4.Philip4, 3.Elidur3, 2.Elidur2, 1.Margaret1) was born in 1325 in Llandeilo, Carmarthenshire, Wales; died in DECEASED in Wales.

    Family/Spouse: Unknown. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

    Children:
    1. 6. ap Philip, Nicholas  Descendancy chart to this point was born in 1367 in Carmarthenshire, Wales; died in 1393 in Carmarthenshire, Wales.


Generation: 6

  1. 6.  ap Philip, Nicholas Descendancy chart to this point (5.Philip5, 4.Philip4, 3.Elidur3, 2.Elidur2, 1.Margaret1) was born in 1367 in Carmarthenshire, Wales; died in 1393 in Carmarthenshire, Wales.

    Other Events and Attributes:

    • Name: Nicholas (Sir Lord) Ap Philip Jones
    • Name: Nicholas ap Phylip

    Family/Spouse: verch Gruffydd, Janet. Janet was born in 1373 in Carmarthenshire, Wales. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

    Children:
    1. 7. ap Nicholas, Gruffydd  Descendancy chart to this point was born in 1398 in Llandeilo, Carmarthenshire, Wales; died on 2 Feb 1461 in Kingsland, Herefordshire, England.


Generation: 7

  1. 7.  ap Nicholas, Gruffydd Descendancy chart to this point (6.Nicholas6, 5.Philip5, 4.Philip4, 3.Elidur3, 2.Elidur2, 1.Margaret1) was born in 1398 in Llandeilo, Carmarthenshire, Wales; died on 2 Feb 1461 in Kingsland, Herefordshire, England.

    Other Events and Attributes:

    • Death: Herefordshire, England
    • FSID: LDZF-Y3J
    • Name: Dafydd Llwyd (David Lloyd) Ap Vychan
    • Name: Gruffydd ap Nicolas FitzUrban
    • Name: Sir Lord Gruffudd Ap Nicholas Jones
    • Birth: Between 9 Jan 1393 and 8 Jan 1394, Sheffield, Yorkshire, England
    • Birth: Between 9 Jan 1393 and 8 Jan 1394, Manordeilo, Carmarthenshire, Wales
    • Birth: Between 9 Jan 1393 and 8 Jan 1394, Carmarthenshire, Wales
    • Birth: Between 10 Jan 1435 and 9 Jan 1436, Tal-y-llyn, Merionethshire, Wales
    • Death: 11 Jan 1461, Mortimer's Cross, Herefordshire, England
    • Death: 10 Feb 1461, England
    • Death: Between 10 Jan 1478 and 9 Jan 1479, Wales

    Notes:

    From The Thomas Family
    SIR RHYS AP THOMAS, K.G.
    Sir Rhys Ap Thomas, K.G., in the reigns of Henry the Seventh and Henry the Eighth of England, according to the Welsh antiquaries and historians, had an extant pedigree going back to Adam; but the historical part probably begins with Urien Rheged, a British prince, living, according to the best authorities, in the sixth century after Christ. Possibly the links that connect him with Sir Rhys may not all be of equal certainty, but that the latter was descended from Urien is the uniform judgment of all writers upon Welsh history and genealogy. Urien is called the son of Cynvarch Oer ap Meirchion Gul, a prince of the North Britons in Cumbria, on the borders of the kingdom of Strath Clyde. Driven out by the invading Saxons in the sixth century of our era, Cynvarch took refuge in Wales and entered the ranks of the clergy, founding the church of Llangynvarch or S. Kinemark's, Maelor in Flintshire. His name is on the pillar of Eliseg near Llangollen. He Nevyn, daughter of Brychan, who likewise entered religion and founded the church of S. Nevyn, Caernarvonshire. By her he had issue :1 Urien; Eurddyl, his twin sister, who m. Elider of the numerous clan; Aron, who was one of Arthur's "knights of counsel, so wise and prudent that no one could at any time defeat him ;" and Llew or Llewellyn, who m., according to the Romances, Anna, sister of King Arthur, and had two sons, Gwalchmai and Medrawd or Mordred, the traitor, one of the three royal knights, "whom neither king nor emperor could vanquish; if they could not succeed by fair means, they would by foul and disgraceful ones." Gwalchmai, Walweyn, or Gawain, the other son, is by some authorities described as the son of Anna and a second husband, Gwyar. He is celebrated as one of the three golden tongued knights, and such was their eloquence "that no one could refuse whatever they asked." Other Triads call him "one of the three most courteous men of Britain," and one of the " three scientific ones of the Isle, to whom there was nothing of which the elements were not known." William of Malmesbury states that in the year 1086 his tomb was discovered on the seashore of Rhos on Pembrokeshire, where there is a district called Walwen's castle.

    Urien, the eldest son of Cynvarch, was a great patron of the bards, by whom he is called "brave as a lion and gentle as a maid." The Welsh Triads name him as one of " the three Bulls of Conflict" and "the three pillars of battle." In the Arthurian romances he appears as Sir Urience. All the authorities agree in representing Urien and his sons as strenuously opposing the Saxon advance, and fighting, Taliesin declares, as many as ten battles against Ida and Deoric of Northumbrian His greatest exploit was the expulsion of the Goidels, Gwyddelians, or Irish Scots, from the territory lying between the Tawe and Tavy rivers, and comprising Gowerland, Cydweli, Iscenen, Carnwallon, and Cantrev Bychan, to which was given the name of his father's northern principality, Rheged. About 567 he was treacherously slain by Llovan Llawdivo, while besieging Ida's son Deoric in the island of " Medcant," possibly Lindisfarne. Llywarch Hen, one of the greatest of the bards and the son of his father's younger brother, Elider Lydanwyn, in a long elegy celebrates his prowess and bewails his death.3 The Welsh pedigrees marry

    cuted them with the boldness peculiar to his character. He met the Commissioners on their entry into Caermarthenshire, himself meanly dressed, and accompanied only by four or five attendants raggedly attired, and as miserably mounted. Right glad was Lord Whitney to find the truculent Welshman apparently in his power, and he was not a little astonished also to hear him offer his services to guide him to Caermarthen, the place of his destination. Their road followed the windings of the Bran to where that river unites with the Gwydderig in its confluence with the Towey. On the western bank, on a rocky eminence, was Gruffyd's Castle of Abermarlais, hidden from the Commissioners by the thick woods which lined the shores of the river. A graceful curve of the road, however, brought them to the foot of the gentle eminence on which the castle stood, and then Gruffyd, turning to the surprised Commissioners and pointing to the open postern, invited them, with a smile, to enter and refresh themselves. They were received with demonstrations of extreme respect by Gruffyd's son Thomas, at the head of one hundred horsemen handsomely dressed and gallantly mounted, and began to open their eyes to the real power and consequence of their companion. After having well refreshed themselves, the whole party, including Thomas ap Gruffyd and his armed retinue, left the castle. A little farther on their way they came to the ancient fortress of Dinevawr, not far from the town of Llandeilo Fawr, then the stronghold of Owen, Gruffyd's son. He received them at the head of a chosen body of two hundred armed horsemen, and played the part of host with such address that he contrived to draw from his guests the secret of their commission. The whole party then proceeded on their way, leaving the mountains for the plain where the Towey meets the Gwili, at the little village of Abergwili. Here they were met by a splendid body of five hundred " tall men " on foot, well armed and accoutred, and led by Gruffyd's eldest son. Thus magnificently attended the Commissioners entered Caermarthen, then the capital of South Wales. Gruffyd now excused himself from attendance on the Commissioners and committed to his sons the care of entertaining them at the banquet prepared in their honour at the Guild Hall. Lord Whitney privately sent for the Mayor, Stephen Griffith, and the Sheriff, and showing his commission, demanded their assistance to arrest Gruffyd, which it was determined should be done on the following morning.

    The banquet was now prepared, and the Commissioners were escorted to it with much pomp by the sons of Gruffyd. The tables had been arranged along the centre of the floor, and according to the architecture of the time a row of pillars separated the upper end of the room, which was slightly elevated, from that part which was assigned to the less distinguished members of the assembly. Lord Whitney was conducted to a seat on the dais, splendidly hung with cloth of gold, and Owen placed himself upon his right hand. On either side of this elevated dais galleries had been raised, in which were placed the bards of that land of minstrelsy. The guests betook themselves with right good-will to the noble cheer provided, and Owen in particular plied them with Ypocras, Garhiofilac, and other delicate and precious drinks, which soon produced the desired effect upon the Commissioners. Lord Whitney after his conference with the authorities, and exhibiting to them his commission, carelessly placed it in his sleeve, which was made very wide after the fashion of the time, and often used for such purposes. During the revel, Owen abstracted it from its hiding-place, while Lord Whitney was in such a state of mental obscuration from the strong potations that had been pressed upon him, that he not only did not notice its loss at the time but retired to bed without doing so. Owen communicated to his father the success of their plans, but Gruff yd abated nothing of his formal courtesy to the Commissioners, and the next morning presented himself before them in the Guild Hall, splendidly dressed and attended by his sons and armed retainers. He was immediately arrested by the officers of the Court, to whom he made no resistance, but with an air of great humility requested that the proceedings against him might be conducted according to law, and asked to see their commission. Lord Whitney readily assented to his request, but upon putting his hand into his sleeve and finding the warrant gone, his consternation may be easily imagined. "Methinks Lord Whitney," said Gruff yd, " if he comes here, as he says, by the King's grace, must have valued his commission too highly to have committed it to the safe-keeping of that ruffle or carelessly to have lost it." Then dropping his assumed deference, clapping his hat upon his head, and turning to his friends and followers, he exclaimed: "What! have we cozeners and cheaters come hither to abuse the King's Majesty's power and to disquiet his true-hearted subjects?" Then looking on the Commissioners with a bitter frown, he said, " By the mass, before the next day come to an end, I will hang up all your bodies for traitors and impostors." The Commissioners were panic-stricken, and entreated for their lives; which Gruffyd at last granted on condition that Lord Whitney should put on his livery coat of blue and wear his cognizance, and be bound by an oath to go to the King so arrayed, acknowledge his own offences, and justify the Welshman's proceedings.
    In 1451 a great eistedfodd was held at Caermarthen under the patronage of Gruffyd ap Nicholas, at which the rules of the Welsh metres Dosbarth Caerfyrrdin were determined. Gruffyd continuing his depredations upon the Lords Marchers was at length found guilty of felony on an indictment preferred against him in the Co. of Salop. This decision at once illumined his mind as to the rival claims of the Houses of York and Lancaster. A Lancastrian King had adjudged him a felon, the Uuke of York was therefore of necessity the champion of a good cause and him he would support. He joined Edward of March, the Duke's son, at Gloucester, with eight hundred men well armed and provisioned, and marched with him to Mortimer's Cross, in Herefordshire. Here on February 2, 1461, a battle was fought between the Yorkists and the Lancastrians under Jasper, Earl of Pembroke, in which Gruffyd was mortally wounded, surviving only long enough to know that his friends were victorious.

    From The Thomas Family:

    GRUFFYD AP NICHOLAS, m. 1st, Mabel, dau. of Meredith ap Henry Donne, of Kidwelly Castle, by whom he had a son and heir, Thomas; he m. 2d, a dau. of Sir John Perrott of Pembroke, by whom he had a dau. Maud, m. Sir John Scudamore, of Kentchurch, q. v., and 3d, Joan, dau. and co-h. of Jenken ap Rees ap David of Gilvach Wen, by whom he had Mabel, ///. Philip Mansel. He also had younger sons Owen, m. Olive, heiress of Henry Maliphant of Upton Castle, Pembroke, whose line ended in heiresses in 1760, and Thomas, junior. He was succeeded by his son Thomas ap Gruffyd.

    Gruffydd married ap Donne, Mabel between 10 Jan 1457 and 9 Jan 1458. Mabel (daughter of ap Henry Donne, Meredith) was born in 1429 in Kidwelly, Carmarthenshire, Wales; died in DECEASED in Wales. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

    Children:
    1. 8. ap Gruffydd, Thomas  Descendancy chart to this point was born in 1429 in Glamorgan, Wales; died in Apr 1474 in Bardsey Island, Caernarvonshire, Wales.


Generation: 8

  1. 8.  ap Gruffydd, Thomas Descendancy chart to this point (7.Gruffydd7, 6.Nicholas6, 5.Philip5, 4.Philip4, 3.Elidur3, 2.Elidur2, 1.Margaret1) was born in 1429 in Glamorgan, Wales; died in Apr 1474 in Bardsey Island, Caernarvonshire, Wales.

    Other Events and Attributes:

    • Nickname: FitzUryan
    • FSID: LDCW-1ZT

    Notes:

    From The Thomas Family:

    Thomas ap Gruffyd, who is described as a man of a character very different from his turbulent father, and one of the most accomplished gentlemen of the age, with a mildness of disposition and elegance of manners rarely found in those cruel times of civil warfare. To avoid taking part in the contests of the rival houses of York and Lancaster he withdrew to the accomplished Court of Burgundy, then ruled over by Philip the Good, in whose service he enrolled himself. There he became famous for his boldness and skill in the tilt and tourney, and in single combat. After the death of his first wife, Elizabeth Griffith, his gallantry and gracious disposition are said to have won the affections of a near relative of the Duke, and Thomas, having probably offended by his presumption the Duke's heir, the Count of Charolois (afterward so well known as Charles the Bold) was compelled to return to Wales. There he had constant encounters with his neighbours, particularly Henry ap Gwilym of Court Henry in the Vale of Towey, between whose family and his there seems to have existed an ancient feud. His last duel took place some time toward the end of Henry the Sixth's reign, or the beginning of that of Edward the Fourth, when he fought with David Gough somewhere in Merionethshire and killed him. Having laid aside his armour and thrown himself upon the ground to rest after the combat, he was treacherously run through the body and killed by one of Cough's retainers. He was buried in the Abbey of Bardsey, Caernarvonshire.

    He was m. to Elizabeth, dau. and heiress of Sir John Griffith of Abermarlais, and possibly1 to another Elizabeth, dau. of James de Burgoigne, natural son of Philip, Duke of Burgundy, or herself a natural dau. of the Duke; from her descended the great clan of Johnes of Abermarlais. Dolau Cothy, Llanbadarnfawr, and Hafod. It has given ten high sheriffs to Cardigan, Caermarthen, and Pembroke; numbered among its members Thomas Johnes, the translator of Froissart, and was represented by John Johnes, Esq., of Dolau Cothy, J. P. and D. L. for Caermarthen in 1872. By his first wife Thomas ap Gruffyd had issue:
    L MORGAN, killed in the Civil Wars. .
    ii. DAVID, killed in the Civil Wars.
    Bi. A dau., m. GRIFFITH AP HOWELL, issue .
    JAMES AP GRIFFITH (f. v.).

    iv. MARGARET, m. SIR RICHARD HERBERT, of Coldbrook (a. v.).
    v. RHYS or REES, his heir, of whom presently.
    vi. Another dau., m. JOHN, 4th son of WILLIAM HERBERT, Earl of
    Pembroke {a. v.).
    rii. DAVID 2d.
    viii. JOHN.
    bt. Possibly a second MARGARET, m. JOHN HERLE, of Brecknock.
    Thomas ap Gruffydd's two elder sons, Morgan and David, became, immediately on their father's decease, warm partizans, on opposite sides, of the houses of York and Lancaster. When Jasper, Earl of Pembroke, after the overthrow of Queen Margaret at Tewkesbury, retired to Pembroke, accompanied by his nephew, Henry, Earl of Richmond, Morgan ap Thomas invested the castle, in order to prevent their escaping out of the country. Upon this David ap Thomas hastily collected together about two thousand men, armed any way,
    1 Reusnenes says: '"One such daughter married apud Britones."
    fell on the besiegers by surprise, obliged them to retire, and gave the Earl and his young charge an opportunity to escape to Tenby, whence they immediately sailed to Brittany. This is nearly all that is recorded of these two brothers. But both are said to have lost their lives in the Wars of the Roses.

    Thomas married Griffith, Mrs Elizabeth in 1445 in Carmarthenshire, Wales. Elizabeth (daughter of Griffith, John Francis and Tyrwhit, Catherine) was born in 1425 in Wichnor, Staffordshire, England; died in 1514 in Newton House, Llandeilo, Carmarthenshire, Wales; was buried in 1514 in Caernarvonshire, Wales. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

    Children:
    1. 9. ap Thomas, Lord Rhys  Descendancy chart to this point was born in 1449 in Carmarthen, Carmarthenshire, Wales; died in 1525 in Carmarthen Priory (destroyed), Carmarthen, Carmarthenshire, Wales; was buried in Jul 1527 in St Peter Churchyard, Carmarthen, Carmarthenshire, Wales.
    2. 10. verch Thomas, Lady Margaret  Descendancy chart to this point was born in 1444 in Manordeilo, Carmarthenshire, Wales; died on 26 Mar 1499 in Abergavenny, Monmouthshire, Wales; was buried in Mar 1499 in Abergavenny, Monmouthshire, Wales.


Generation: 9

  1. 9.  ap Thomas, Lord Rhysap Thomas, Lord Rhys Descendancy chart to this point (8.Thomas8, 7.Gruffydd7, 6.Nicholas6, 5.Philip5, 4.Philip4, 3.Elidur3, 2.Elidur2, 1.Margaret1) was born in 1449 in Carmarthen, Carmarthenshire, Wales; died in 1525 in Carmarthen Priory (destroyed), Carmarthen, Carmarthenshire, Wales; was buried in Jul 1527 in St Peter Churchyard, Carmarthen, Carmarthenshire, Wales.

    Other Events and Attributes:

    • Appointments / Titles: Knight of The Garter
    • Life Event: Chamberlain of Carmarthenshire and Cardiganshire
    • Life Event: Constable and Lieutenant of Breconshire
    • Life Event: Governor of all Wales
    • Life Event: Justiciar of South Wales
    • Life Event: Seneschall and Chancellor of Haverfordwest, Rouse and Builth
    • FSID: L5X3-3PY
    • Occupation: Knight
    • Occupation: Privy Councillor

    Notes:

    Rhys ap Thomas
    From LifeSketch

    Rhys was the youngest legitimate son of Thomas ap Gruffydd ap Nicolas of Llandeilo in Carmarthenshire, and Elizabeth, daughter of Sir John Gruffydd of Abermarlais, also in Carmarthenshire.

    In 1460, after decades of increasing unrest among the nobility and armed clashes, the supporters of Richard, Duke of York challenged the right of King Henry VI of the House of Lancaster to rule England. Most Welsh landholders claimed their titles through grants made by Henry's father and grandfather for loyalty to the English crown during the revolt of Owain Glyndŵr. They therefore generally supported Henry, rather than the rival Yorkist claimants to the throne.

    In 1461, when Rhys ap Thomas was twelve or thirteen, a Lancastrian army raised in Wales under Jasper Tudor, the Earl of Pembroke, moved into England but was defeated at the Battle of Mortimer's Cross by Edward, Earl of March (the eldest son of Richard of York who had been killed a few weeks before). Rhys's grandfather Gruffydd ap Nicholas was killed in the battle. Within a few weeks, Edward had been proclaimed King Edward IV, and the main Lancastrian armies were crushed at the Battle of Towton in Yorkshire.

    Some Lancastrians, including Rhys's father Thomas, continued to resist in Wales. Thomas and his brother Owain defended Carreg Cennen Castle near Llandeilo. They were forced to surrender in 1462 after a siege. The victorious Yorkists demolished the castle to prevent it being used as a Lancastrian stronghold again. The lands of the defeated Lancastrians were confiscated, and Thomas, with the young Rhys, went into exile at the court of Philip the Good, the Duke of Burgundy.

    Thomas and Rhys returned to Wales in 1467, and reacquired at least some of their former lands. This was during a period which included the Readeption of Henry VI, when many former Lancastrians regained their lands, and contrived to keep them even after the subsequent victory of Edward IV in 1471.

    Thomas died in 1474. Rhys's two elder brothers had already died, and Rhys inherited his father's estates.

    Reign of Richard III
    In 1483, Edward IV died. His son, Edward V was still a minor. Edward's surviving brother Richard of Gloucester and the Duke of Buckingham moved to prevent the unpopular relatives of Elizabeth Woodville, Edward's Queen, from sharing in power or even dominating the government during the young King's minority. However, Richard went further, declaring Edward's children illegitimate and seizing the throne himself. The young Edward V and his younger brother (the Princes in the Tower) disappeared and were probably murdered. Buckingham turned against Richard and led a revolt aimed at restoring the House of Lancaster, in the person of the exiled Henry Tudor, Earl of Richmond, to the throne. The revolt failed. Buckingham himself had raised a force at Brecon in mid-Wales, but storms and floods prevented him crossing the River Severn to join other rebels in England, and his starving soldiers deserted. He was soon betrayed and executed. The same storms prevented Henry from landing in the West Country.

    Rhys had declined to support Buckingham's uprising. In the aftermath, when Richard appointed officers to replace those who had joined the revolt, he made Rhys ap Thomas his principal lieutenant in south west Wales and granted him an annuity for life of 40 marks. Rhys was required to send his son Gruffydd ap Rhys ap Thomas to the King's court at Nottingham as a hostage, but he excused himself from this obligation by claiming that nothing could bind him to his duty more strongly than his conscience. He is supposed to have taken an oath that

    Whoever ill-affected to the state, shall dare to land in those parts of Wales where I have any employment under your majesty, must resolve with himself to make his entrance and irruption over my belly.

    Nevertheless, he is presumed to have carried on some correspondence with Henry Tudor, who was preparing another attempt in France to overthrow Richard.

    Bosworth campaign
    Main article: Battle of Bosworth
    On 1 August 1485, Henry set sail from Harfleur in France. With fair winds, he landed at Mill Bay near Dale on the north side of Milford Haven, close to his birthplace in Pembroke Castle, with a force of English exiles and French mercenaries. At this point, Rhys should have engaged him. However, Rhys instead joined Henry. Folklore has it that the Bishop of St. David's offered to absolve him from his previous oath to Richard. The Bishop also suggested that Rhys fulfil the strict letter of his vow by lying down and letting Henry step over him. This undignified procedure might have weakened Rhys's authority over his men, so instead, Rhys is said to have stood under the Mullock Bridge about 2 miles (3.2 km) north of Dale while Henry marched over it.

    Henry's and Rhys's forces marched separately through Wales, with Rhys recruiting 500 men as he proceeded. They rejoined at Welshpool before crossing into England. Rhys's Welsh force was described as being large enough to have "annihilated" the rest of Henry's army. On 22 August, they met Richard's army near Market Bosworth. In the resulting Battle of Bosworth, Richard launched an attack led by John Howard, 1st Duke of Norfolk. According to a contemporary ballad, Rhys's men halted the assault. "Norfolk's line began to break under pressure from Rhys ap Thomas's men" and the Duke was killed by an arrow shot. Hoping to turn the tide and win the battle rapidly by killing his rival, Richard and his companion knights charged directly at Henry. The king was unhorsed and surrounded. The poet Guto'r Glyn implies that Rhys himself was responsible for killing Richard, possibly with a poll axe. Referring to Richard's emblem of a boar, the poet writes that Rhys "killed the boar, shaved his head" ("Lladd y baedd, eilliodd ei ben"). However, this may only mean that one of Rhys's Welsh halberdiers killed the king, since the Burgundian chronicler Jean Molinet, says that a Welshman, one of Rhys' men suspected to be Wyllyam Gardynyr, struck the death-blow with a halberd. Guto'r Glyn himself says that Rhys was "like the stars of a shield with the spear in their midst on a great steed" ("A Syr Rys mal sŷr aesaw, Â’r gwayw’n eu mysg ar gnyw mawr"). He was knighted on the field of battle.

    Later life
    Rhys demonstrated his continuing loyalty to Henry by suppressing a Yorkist rebellion at Brecon in 1486, and taking part in the campaign against the pretender Lambert Simnel in 1487 and the subsequent campaigns against Perkin Warbeck. He played a part in the defeat of the Cornish Rebellion of 1497, capturing the rebel leader Lord Audeley, for which he was awarded the honour of Knight Banneret.

    As reward for his loyalty to Henry, he acquired many lands and lucrative offices in South Wales. He was appointed Constable and Lieutenant of Breconshire, Chamberlain of Carmarthenshire and Cardiganshire, Seneschall and Chancellor of Haverfordwest, Rouse and Builth, Justiciar of South Wales, and Governor of all Wales.

    He was also a Privy Councillor and in 1505 he was made a Knight of the Garter, which he celebrated with a great tournament at Carew Castle in 1507. After the death of Henry VII, he remained a supporter of his son, Henry VIII and took part in the Battle of Guinegatte in 1513.

    Rhys was married twice: to Eva, daughter of Henri ap Gwilym of Cwrt Henri; and to Janet, daughter of Thomas Mathew of Radyr, who was widow of Thomas Stradling of St Donats. However, although Rhys had numerous mistresses and several illegitimate children, his legitimate son Gruffydd ap Rhys ap Thomas died in 1521. Rhys himself died at Carmarthen Priory in 1525. After Henry VIII suppressed the monasteries, Rhys's tomb was moved to St. Peter's Church, also in Carmarthen.

    Rhys's estates and offices were meant to pass to his grandson and heir Rhys ap Gruffydd, however they were taken by the Crown and given to Lord Ferrers for life. Rhys ap Gruffydd was later beheaded by Henry VIII in 1531 for treason after fighting Ferrers and provoking civil unrest amongst the citizens of Carmarthen who were still angry about the disinheritance.

    Rhys ap Thomas
    From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    Rhys ap Thomas (1449–1525), KG, was a Welsh soldier and landholder who rose to prominence during the Wars of the Roses, and was instrumental in the victory of Henry Tudor at the Battle of Bosworth. He remained a faithful supporter of Henry and was rewarded with lands and offices in South Wales. Some sources claim that he personally delivered the death blow to King Richard III at Bosworth with his poleaxe.

    Early life
    Rhys was the youngest legitimate son of Thomas ap Gruffydd ap Nicolas of Llandeilo in Carmarthenshire, and Elizabeth, daughter of Sir John Gruffydd of Abermarlais, also in Carmarthenshire.

    In 1460, after decades of increasing unrest among the nobility and armed clashes, the supporters of Richard, Duke of York challenged the right of King Henry VI of the House of Lancaster to rule England. Most Welsh landholders claimed their titles through grants made by Henry's father and grandfather for loyalty to the English crown during the revolt of Owain Glyndŵr. They therefore generally supported Henry, rather than the rival Yorkist claimants to the throne.

    In 1461, when Rhys ap Thomas was twelve or thirteen, a Lancastrian army raised in Wales under Jasper Tudor, the Earl of Pembroke, moved into England but was defeated at the Battle of Mortimer's Cross by Edward, Earl of March (the eldest son of Richard of York who had been killed a few weeks before). Rhys's grandfather Gruffydd ap Nicholas was killed in the battle. Within a few weeks, Edward had been proclaimed King Edward IV, and the main Lancastrian armies were crushed at the Battle of Towton in Yorkshire.

    Some Lancastrians, including Rhys's father Thomas, continued to resist in Wales. Thomas and his brother Owain defended Carreg Cennen Castle near Llandeilo. They were forced to surrender in 1462 after a siege. The victorious Yorkists demolished the castle to prevent it being used as a Lancastrian stronghold again. The lands of the defeated Lancastrians were confiscated, and Thomas, with the young Rhys, went into exile at the court of Philip the Good, the Duke of Burgundy.

    Thomas and Rhys returned to Wales in 1467, and reacquired at least some of their former lands. This was during a period which included the Readeption of Henry VI, when many former Lancastrians regained their lands, and contrived to keep them even after the subsequent victory of Edward IV in 1471.

    Thomas died in 1474. Rhys's two elder brothers had already died, and Rhys inherited his father's estates.

    Reign of Richard III
    In 1483, Edward IV died. His son, Edward V was still a minor. Edward's surviving brother Richard of Gloucester and the Duke of Buckingham moved to prevent the unpopular relatives of Elizabeth Woodville, Edward's Queen, from sharing in power or even dominating the government during the young King's minority. However, Richard went further, declaring Edward's children illegitimate and seizing the throne himself. The young Edward V and his younger brother (the Princes in the Tower) disappeared and were probably murdered. Buckingham turned against Richard and led a revolt aimed at restoring the House of Lancaster, in the person of the exiled Henry Tudor, Earl of Richmond, to the throne. The revolt failed. Buckingham himself had raised a force at Brecon in mid-Wales, but storms and floods prevented him crossing the River Severn to join other rebels in England, and his starving soldiers deserted. He was soon betrayed and executed. The same storms prevented Henry from landing in the West Country.

    Rhys had declined to support Buckingham's uprising. In the aftermath, when Richard appointed officers to replace those who had joined the revolt, he made Rhys ap Thomas his principal lieutenant in south west Wales and granted him an annuity for life of 40 marks. Rhys was required to send his son Gruffydd ap Rhys ap Thomas to the King's court at Nottingham as a hostage, but he excused himself from this obligation by claiming that nothing could bind him to his duty more strongly than his conscience. He is supposed to have taken an oath that

    Whoever ill-affected to the state, shall dare to land in those parts of Wales where I have any employment under your majesty, must resolve with himself to make his entrance and irruption over my belly.

    Nevertheless, he is presumed to have carried on some correspondence with Henry Tudor, who was preparing another attempt in France to overthrow Richard.

    Bosworth campaign
    On 1 August 1485, Henry set sail from Harfleur in France. With fair winds, he landed at Mill Bay near Dale on the north side of Milford Haven, close to his birthplace in Pembroke Castle, with a force of English exiles and French mercenaries. At this point, Rhys should have engaged him. However, Rhys instead joined Henry. Folklore has it that the Bishop of St. David's offered to absolve him from his previous oath to Richard. The Bishop also suggested that Rhys fulfil the strict letter of his vow by lying down and letting Henry step over him. This undignified procedure might have weakened Rhys's authority over his men, so instead, Rhys is said to have stood under the Mullock Bridge about 2 miles (3.2 km) north of Dale while Henry marched over it.

    Henry's and Rhys's forces marched separately through Wales, with Rhys recruiting 500 men as he proceeded. They rejoined at Welshpool before crossing into England. Rhys's Welsh force was described as being large enough to have "annihilated" the rest of Henry's army. On 22 August, they met Richard's army near Market Bosworth. In the resulting Battle of Bosworth, Richard launched an attack led by John Howard, 1st Duke of Norfolk. According to a contemporary ballad, Rhys's men halted the assault. "Norfolk's line began to break under pressure from Rhys ap Thomas's men" and the Duke was killed by an arrow shot. Hoping to turn the tide and win the battle rapidly by killing his rival, Richard and his companion knights charged directly at Henry. The king was unhorsed and surrounded. The poet Guto'r Glyn implies that Rhys himself was responsible for killing Richard, possibly with a poll axe. Referring to Richard's emblem of a boar, the poet writes that Rhys "killed the boar, shaved his head" ("Lladd y baedd, eilliodd ei ben"). However, this may only mean that one of Rhys's Welsh halberdiers killed the king, since the Burgundian chronicler Jean Molinet, says that a Welshman, one of Rhys' men suspected to be Wyllyam Gardynyr, struck the death-blow with a halberd. Guto'r Glyn himself says that Rhys was "like the stars of a shield with the spear in their midst on a great steed" ("A Syr Rys mal sŷr aesaw, Â’r gwayw’n eu mysg ar gnyw mawr"). He was knighted on the field of battle.

    Later life
    Rhys demonstrated his continuing loyalty to Henry by suppressing a Yorkist rebellion at Brecon in 1486, and taking part in the campaign against the pretender Lambert Simnel in 1487 and the subsequent campaigns against Perkin Warbeck. He played a part in the defeat of the Cornish Rebellion of 1497, capturing the rebel leader Lord Audeley, for which he was awarded the honour of Knight Banneret.

    As reward for his loyalty to Henry, he acquired many lands and lucrative offices in South Wales. He was appointed Constable and Lieutenant of Breconshire, Chamberlain of Carmarthenshire and Cardiganshire, Seneschall and Chancellor of Haverfordwest, Rouse and Builth, Justiciar of South Wales, and Governor of all Wales.

    He was also a Privy Councillor and in 1505 he was made a Knight of the Garter, which he celebrated with a great tournament at Carew Castle in 1507. After the death of Henry VII, he remained a supporter of his son, Henry VIII and took part in the Battle of Guinegatte in 1513.

    Rhys was married twice: to Eva, daughter of Henri ap Gwilym of Cwrt Henri; and to Janet, daughter of Thomas Mathew of Radyr, who was widow of Thomas Stradling of St Donats. However, although Rhys had numerous mistresses and several illegitimate children, his legitimate son Gruffydd ap Rhys ap Thomas died in 1521. Rhys himself died at Carmarthen Priory in 1525. After Henry VIII suppressed the monasteries, Rhys's tomb was moved to St. Peter's Church, also in Carmarthen.

    Rhys's estates and offices were meant to pass to his grandson and heir Rhys ap Gruffydd, however they were taken by the Crown and given to Lord Ferrers for life. Rhys ap Gruffydd was later beheaded by Henry VIII in 1531 for treason after fighting Ferrers and provoking civil unrest amongst the citizens of Carmarthen who were still angry about the disinheritance.

    References

    Heritage of Wales News 6 February 2013. Accessed 27 February 2013
    http://www.walesonline.co.uk/news/wales-news/richard-iiis-killer-really-welshman-7168556
    Ross, Charles (1999) [1981]. Richard III. Yale English Monarchs. New Haven, Connecticut; and London: Yale University Press, p.213.
    Ralph A. Griffiths and Roger S. Thomas, The Making of the Tudor Dynasty, p.185.
    Griffith, Ralph, Sir Rhys ap Thomas and his family: a study in the Wars of the Roses and early Tudor politics, University of Wales Press, 1993, p.43. See also guto'r glyn.net

    E. A. Rees, A Life of Guto'r Glyn, Y Lolfa, 2008, p.212.
    Richard III wounds match medieval Welsh poem description
    External links

    National Library of Wales entry
    Castles of Wales article
    Llandeilo local history site
    Retrieved from "https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Rhys_ap_Thomas&oldid=752668912"

    Family/Spouse: Gwilym, Lady Eva. Eva (daughter of Gwylliam, Henry) was born in 1453 in Bourgogne, Marne, Champagne-Ardenne, France; died in DECEASED in Wales. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

    Children:
    1. 11. ap Rhys, Gruffydd  Descendancy chart to this point was born in 1478 in Kent, England; died in 1521 in England; was buried in 1521 in Worcester Cathedral, Worcester, Worcestershire, England.

  2. 10.  verch Thomas, Lady Margaret Descendancy chart to this point (8.Thomas8, 7.Gruffydd7, 6.Nicholas6, 5.Philip5, 4.Philip4, 3.Elidur3, 2.Elidur2, 1.Margaret1) was born in 1444 in Manordeilo, Carmarthenshire, Wales; died on 26 Mar 1499 in Abergavenny, Monmouthshire, Wales; was buried in Mar 1499 in Abergavenny, Monmouthshire, Wales.

    Other Events and Attributes:

    • FSID: LZG3-Y5F

    Margaret married Hearle, John in 1497 in Breconshire, Wales. John was born in 1466 in Prideaux Place, Padstow, Cornwall, England; was christened in 1466 in Prideaux Place, Padstow, Cornwall, England; died in 1547 in Wales; was buried in 1547 in Wales. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

    Margaret married Herbert, Sir Richard in 1454 in Coldbrook, Monmouthshire, Wales. Richard (son of Herbert, Howel ap Thomas and verch Dafydd Gam, Gwladys) was born in 1423 in Raglan Castle, Raglan, Monmouthshire, Wales; died on 27 Jul 1469 in Edgecote Moor, Banbury, Oxfordshire, England; was buried on 5 Aug 1469 in Tintern Abbey, Tintern, Monmouthshire, Wales. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

    Children:
    1. 12. Herbert, Sir William Thomas  Descendancy chart to this point was born in 1465 in Coldbrook, Monmouthshire, Wales; died in 1540 in Crickhowell, Breconshire, Wales.


Generation: 10

  1. 11.  ap Rhys, Gruffyddap Rhys, Gruffydd Descendancy chart to this point (9.Rhys9, 8.Thomas8, 7.Gruffydd7, 6.Nicholas6, 5.Philip5, 4.Philip4, 3.Elidur3, 2.Elidur2, 1.Margaret1) was born in 1478 in Kent, England; died in 1521 in England; was buried in 1521 in Worcester Cathedral, Worcester, Worcestershire, England.

    Other Events and Attributes:

    • Appointments / Titles: Order of the Bath
    • Appointments / Titles: Sir
    • FSID: MYV1-KBG
    • Name: Griffith ap Rhys

    Notes:

    LifeSketch

    In the reign of Richard III his father's loyalty was questioned to the house of York as support grew for Henry of Richmond (later Henry VII of England). Around the time of Richard's usurpation and Buckingham's rebellion in 1483, as a way of keeping Rhys ap Thomas's loyalty, Richard demanded an oath of allegiance from Gruffydd's father as well as demanding that his young son Gruffydd be in his own custody. Rhys assured Richard of his loyalty but refused to hand over young Gruffydd, who was only four or five at the time.

    When Gruffydd was older he became a member of Prince Arthur's household. Henry VII of England aimed to have his son friends with influential young men with powerful fathers in Henry's kingdom, and Gruffydd's father was one of the most powerful men in Wales after the death of Jasper Tudor in 1495, and he was chosen to serve the young Prince. Gruffydd and Prince Arthur seem to have been quite close; in 1501 Gruffydd was made a Knight of the Garter, and was with Arthur when he returned to Ludlow with his new young bride Catherine of Aragon in December 1501; and was there for Arthur's death in April 1502.

    On the death of Prince Arthur in 1502, Gruffydd ap Rhys was a prominent mourner. He accompanied the Prince's body from Ludlow to its final resting place in Worcester. The following contemporary record gives an account of Gruffydd as he travelled with the "rich chariot" which carried Prince Arthur's body: "in mourning habit, rode next before the leading horse on a courser trapped with black, bearing the Prince's banner." During the funeral service for the Prince in Worcester Cathedral, he once again carried Arthur's "rich embroidered banner."

    Sir Gruffydd ap Rhys's tomb.
    Gruffydd was present with Arthur's younger brother Henry VIII of England when Henry travelled to France for the famous Field of the Cloth of Gold in 1520. He married Catherine St John, daughter of John St John who was related to Margaret Beaufort around 1507 and had one son: Rhys ap Griffith (1508–1531), who was later executed by Henry VIII for treason.

    Gruffydd ap Rhys himself died prematurely in 1521. He died prior to the divorce of Catherine of Aragon, and unlike other members of Arthur's household never had to make statements about the consummation of his marriage with Catherine. His son and heir Rhys ap Gruffydd was less lucky. He was considered a threat to Henry's power and was executed for treason on charges widely believed to be false in 1531.

    Gruffydd's tomb is also in Worcester Cathedral.

    Gruffydd ap Rhys ap Thomas
    From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    The coat of arms of Rhys's family
    Sir Gruffydd ap Rhys (c. 1478–1521) (also known as Griffith Ryce in some antiquarian English sources) was a Welsh nobleman. He was the son of Sir Rhys ap Thomas, the de facto ruler of most of south-west Wales who aided Henry Tudor in his victory on Bosworth Field in 1485 and Efa ap Henry.

    In the reign of Richard III his father's loyalty was questioned to the house of York as support grew for Henry of Richmond (later Henry VII of England). Around the time of Richard's usurpation and Buckingham's rebellion in 1483, as a way of keeping Rhys ap Thomas's loyalty, Richard demanded an oath of allegiance from Gruffydd's father as well as demanding that his young son Gruffydd be in his own custody. Rhys assured Richard of his loyalty but refused to hand over young Gruffydd, who was only four or five at the time.

    When Gruffydd was older he became a member of Prince Arthur's household. Henry VII of England aimed to have his son friends with influential young men with powerful fathers in Henry's kingdom, and Gruffydd's father was one of the most powerful men in Wales after the death of Jasper Tudor in 1495, and he was chosen to serve the young Prince. Gruffydd and Prince Arthur seem to have been quite close; in 1501 Gruffydd was made a Knight of the Garter, and was with Arthur when he returned to Ludlow with his new young bride Catherine of Aragon in December 1501; and was there for Arthur's death in April 1502.

    Death of the Prince

    On the death of Prince Arthur in 1502, Gruffydd ap Rhys was a prominent mourner. He accompanied the Prince's body from Ludlow to its final resting place in Worcester. The following contemporary record gives an account of Gruffydd as he travelled with the "rich chariot" which carried Prince Arthur's body: "in mourning habit, rode next before the leading horse on a courser trapped with black, bearing the Prince's banner." During the funeral service for the Prince in Worcester Cathedral, he once again carried Arthur's "rich embroidered banner."

    Later life

    Sir Gruffydd ap Rhys's tomb.
    Gruffydd was present with Arthur's younger brother Henry VIII of England when Henry travelled to France for the famous Field of the Cloth of Gold in 1520. He married Catherine St John, daughter of John St John who was related to Margaret Beaufort around 1507 and had one son: Rhys ap Griffith (1508–1531), who was later executed by Henry VIII for treason.

    Gruffydd ap Rhys himself died prematurely in 1521. He died prior to the divorce of Catherine of Aragon, and unlike other members of Arthur's household never had to make statements about the consummation of his marriage with Catherine. His son and heir Rhys ap Gruffydd was less lucky. He was considered a threat to Henry's power and was executed for treason on charges widely believed to be false in 1531.

    Gruffydd's tomb is also in Worcester Cathedral.

    References

    Ralph A. Griffiths, Sir Rhys ap Thomas and his family (University of Wales Press, 1993), p. 39 et. seq..
    Chrimes, S B Henry VII, pg. 43
    "The Shuttle - Royal link with lonely tomb". Retrieved 2007-01-27.
    Steven Gunn and Linda Monckton, ed, Arthur Tudor, Prince of Wales, Boydell 2009 ISBN 978-1-84383-480-9
    Retrieved from "https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Gruffydd_ap_Rhys_ap_Thomas&oldid=752343953"
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    From The Thomas Book:

    GRIFFITH AP RHYS, the only son of Sir Rhys ap Thomas by his first wife Eva, of Court Henry, b. 1478, was once nominated as a candidate for the Garter, but failed to secure an election. When Henry VII. revived the Order of the Bath, November 17, 1501, on the marriage of his son, Prince Arthur, to Katherine of Aragon, Griffith ap Rhys was created a knight of that ancient order. He was a favourite companion of the Prince, and as such gave some curious testimony at the proceedings in reference to the divorce of Queen Katherine. In April, 1502, at the funeral of Prince Arthur, a contemporary account (printed in Grose's Antiquarian Repertory, ii., 327—330) says " Sir Griffith Vap Sr. Ris rode before the corpse in mornyng Abitt on a courser trapped with black, bearing banner of Prince's arms." And at the interment in Worcester Cathedral, April 27th, " Sir Griffith Vap Rise Thomas offered at the Gospel the rich embroidered banner of my Lord's Armes." The standard of Sir Griffith ap Rhys, K.B., was: per fess murrey and blue; device repeated twice, a trefoil slipped and barbed ar. charged with a raven ppr. Motto, Psalm cxlvii. 9, "Puluis (sic.) corvorum invocantibus cum."

    At his father's tournament at Carevv, 1507, he was one of the principal challengers. He was Mayor of Caermarthen, 1504-5-11-13. The Rutland list of those at the Field of the Cloth of Gold notes Sir Griffith Rice, with two other knights, as in command of a body of one hundred light horsemen "for scurrers." Lady Rice was also in attendance on the Queen. He m. about 1504, Katherine, dau. of Sir John St. John, and aunt of the first Lord St. John of Bletshoe, from whom descended Pope's friend, Lord Boling . . . broke. After Sir Griffith's death she in. Sir Piers Edgecombe, ancestor of the present Earl of Mount Edgecombe. She made her will at Cothele, in Cornwall, December 4, 1553, d. that month and is buried with her first husband in Worcester Cathedral.1 Sir Griffith ap Rhys d. September 29, 15 21. Issue:

    i. RICE, his heir (of whom presently).

    ii AGNES, m. 1st, WILLIAM, 6th LORD STOURTON, and 2d, SIR EDWARD BAYNTON, KNT., of Rowden, in Hertfordshire. She ii. August 19, 1574, and is bit. with her 2d husband in Bromham
    Church, Wilts.8 Their quaint epitaph runs thus:
    1 Notices of Sir Griffith ap Rhys wilt be found in Calendar of State Papers, reign of Henry VIII., vol. ii., //. 69, 193, 215, 1489, etc. A view of the tomb of Sir Griffith ap Rhys may be seen in Thomas's Worcester, opposite /. 71, which quotes the inscription; and also in Wild's Worcester, plate viii., and Dingley, ii., plate cclxxxv. * Dinglcy's History from Marble, part i., plate xxxiii., gives drawings and epitaph from the tomb.
    Here lieth Syr Edwarde Baynton Knyght within this marble clad.
    By Agnes Ryce his firste trew wyfe Yt thyrtyne chyldrene had
    Whearof she left alyve withe him at hir departure thre
    Henecy, Anne and Elyzabeth whose pictures here you see.
    The XIX daye of Auguste she decesed of Christe the yere
    These little figures standing bie present ye number here. 1574.

    iii. MARY, m. SIR JOHN LUTTERELL, KNT., before 1553, when she is mentioned as his wife in her mother's will.

    iv. ELIZABETH, the only sister of RICE AP GRIFFITH named in his grandfather's will.

    Gruffydd married St John, Catherine in 1504 in England. Catherine (daughter of St John, John and verch Morgan, Sybil) was born in 1478 in Bletsoe, Bedfordshire, England; died on 22 Dec 1553 in England. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

    Children:
    1. 13. ap Gruffydd, Sir Rhys  Descendancy chart to this point was born in 1508 in Wales; died in Dec 1531 in Tower Hill, London, London, England; was buried on 4 Jan 1532 in England.

  2. 12.  Herbert, Sir William ThomasHerbert, Sir William Thomas Descendancy chart to this point (10.Margaret9, 8.Thomas8, 7.Gruffydd7, 6.Nicholas6, 5.Philip5, 4.Philip4, 3.Elidur3, 2.Elidur2, 1.Margaret1) was born in 1465 in Coldbrook, Monmouthshire, Wales; died in 1540 in Crickhowell, Breconshire, Wales.

    Other Events and Attributes:

    • FSID: LR9B-QJC

    Notes:

    Richard and Margaret had three sons, one of whom was William Herbert, 1st Earl of Pembroke, who became the 1st Earl of Pembroke (2nd Creation) on 11 October 1551. Existing Earls of Pembroke and Montgomery, and of Carnarvon, of the Duke of Powis, of Pool Castle (extinct 1747), descend from Sir Richard Herbert. Through the female line, of the Marquis of Bute, derives his Glamorganshire estates. William married Anne Parr, sister of Queen Catherine Parr, the sixth and last wife of Henry VIII. William served Henry VIII in many capacities, including Chief Gentleman on the Privy Chamber and the Privy Council and Receiver of the King's revenues. He was knighted in 1544 and later elected to the Knights of the Garter. The other son was Sir George Herbert of Swansea was ancestor to the Herberts of Swansea, Cogan, Cookham and the White Friars, extinct in 1739. Candleston Castle passed from Richard and Margaret to George.

    From the Annals and Antiquites of the Counties and County families of Wales
    Herberts of Crickhowel.

    The beginning of the Herberts of Crickhowel was with William Herbert, illegitimate son (as Jones, Hist. Brec, and the St. Mark's Coll. MS., say) of Sir Richard Herbert, of Colebrook, near Abergavenny, 2nd brother of William, 1st Earl of Pembroke. William married Anne, daughter of Jenkin Walbeoffe, and in part through the lands obtained by this marriage, but principally in the capacity of steward of Lord Herbert's large possessions in these parts, he came to reside at Crickhowel. His son, Watkin Herbert, Esq., married Margaret, daughter of Morgan Thomas. [Watkin Herbert was Sheriff 1540.]

    Edward Herbert, his son, in. Elizabeth, daughter of Edward Lewis of Van, Esq.: "sa. a lion rampant, arg. in a bordure gabonated, or, gu." His son and heir,—
    William Herbert, Esq. [of Crickhowel, Sheriff 1546], m. Mary, daughter of Dr. William Awbrey, LL.D.: az. a chevron between 3 eagles' heads, erased, or. Note.—Herbert of Crughowel's Arms are bordered, vert, bezanted. William Herbert had three sons :—

    1. Edward Herbert, Esq. [of Crickhowel, Sheriff 1566], m. [Anne,] daughter of John Jeffreys [of Abercynrig], and had a son Walter [living when St. Mark's Coll. MS. was written].

    2. Sir John Herbert, Kt, 2nd son, »»....

    3. Henry Herbert, 3rd son, m. a daughter of Edward Williams, of Llangattwg, and had a son Edward, who m. a daughter and a co-h. of Edward Games, of Buckland [living when the St. Mark's Coll. MS. was written].

    So far the MS. The days of the Herberts of Crughowel were now nearly passing away; twice or thrice more the name appears in the list of Breconshire Sheriffs:—" John Herbert" in 1634, and again two years running, 1640, 1641; and "Sir John Herbert, of Crickhowel, Kt.," probably the same person, in 1662, and then disappears finally from that list. Sir John Herbert died A.d. 1666, leaving but a daughter, who m. William de Hunt, Esq., Sergeant at Law.

    The castellated mansion of the Herberts at Crickhowel must have been one of some magnificence. No part of the house now remains, but its site is ascertained by the old gateway, of decorated Gothic, at the entrance to the quadrangle, which still stands uninjured, and goes under the appropriate name of Porthmawr—the Great Gate. This beautiful archway is a puzzle to the passer by and to many writers of guide-books, for its expression is undeniably antique, while the house to which it is now attached, and which has been baptized with the name of the Old Gateway, is modern, and out of character with the style. Jones tells us that in his time the archway was called Cwrt Garu>, or more correctly, as he thought, Cwrt y Carw, or the Stag's Court; but for neither the one nor the other does he give a reason. Porthmawr, therefore, must be a very recent name.

    Family/Spouse: Walbeoffe, Anne. Anne (daughter of Walbeoffe, Jenkin and Walbeoffe, Mrs Jenkin) was born in 1508 in Skenfrith, Monmouthshire, Wales; died in DECEASED in Wales. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

    Children:
    1. 14. Herbert, Watkin  Descendancy chart to this point was born in 1517 in Skenfrith, Monmouthshire, Wales; died in 1564 in Monmouthshire, Wales; was buried in 1564 in Newport Catherdral of St Woollos, Newport, Monmouthshire, Wales.


Generation: 11

  1. 13.  ap Gruffydd, Sir Rhysap Gruffydd, Sir Rhys Descendancy chart to this point (11.Gruffydd10, 9.Rhys9, 8.Thomas8, 7.Gruffydd7, 6.Nicholas6, 5.Philip5, 4.Philip4, 3.Elidur3, 2.Elidur2, 1.Margaret1) was born in 1508 in Wales; died in Dec 1531 in Tower Hill, London, London, England; was buried on 4 Jan 1532 in England.

    Other Events and Attributes:

    • Appointments / Titles: Knight
    • FSID: LXQS-85R

    Notes:

    Rhys ap Gruffydd (rebel)

    Rhys ap Gruffydd (1508–1531) was a powerful Welsh landowner who was accused of rebelling against King Henry VIII by plotting with James V of Scotland to become Prince of Wales . He was executed as a rebel. He married Lady Catherine Howard (b. abt 1499 Ashwellthorpe, Norfolk, England), the daughter of Thomas Howard, 2nd Duke of Norfolk and his second wife Agnes Tilney .

    Early life
    Rhys was the grandson of Rhys ap Thomas , the most powerful man in Wales and close ally of Henry VII . Rhys was a descendant of the medieval Welsh king Rhys ap Gruffydd (1132–1197), his namesake. His father, Gruffydd ap Rhys ap Thomas , died in 1521, leaving him his grandfather’s heir. In 1524 Rhys married Catherine Howard, daughter of Thomas Howard, 2nd Duke of Norfolk .[1]

    As his grandfather’s heir, Rhys expected to inherit his estates and titles. When Rhys ap Thomas died in 1525, Henry VIII gave his most important titles and powers to Walter Devereux, Lord Ferrers, leading to a feud between Rhys and Ferrers which escalated over the next few years.

    Conflict with Ferrers
    Rhys attempted to increase his status in Wales, petitioning Cardinal Thomas Wolsey to be given various posts. Potential for conflict with Ferrers increased when both men were given the right to extend their number of retainers; this led to the emergence of competing armed gangs.[2] The bad-blood between Rhys and Ferrers reached a crisis-point in June 1529 when Ferrers made a display of his status during preparations for the annual Court of Great Sessions in Carmarthen. Rhys, surrounded by forty armed men, threatened Ferrers with a knife. Rhys was arrested and imprisoned in Carmarthen Castle . Rhys’s wife Catherine escalated the situation by collecting hundreds of her supporters and attacking the castle. She later threatened Ferrers himself with an armed gang. In the conflict between the two factions several of Ferrers’s men were killed. The factions continued to cause other disruptions over the coming months, leading to deaths in street-fights and acts of piracy.

    Treason charges
    The rebellious actions of Rhys’s supporters led to Rhys’s transfer to prison in London by 1531. By this stage Henry was claiming that Rhys was attempting to overthrow his government in Wales. Rhys had added the title Fitz-Urien to his name, referring to Urien , the ancient Welsh ruler of Rheged , a person of mythical significance. Rhys’s accusers claimed that this was an attempt to assert himself as Prince of Wales. He was supposed to be plotting with James V of Scotland to overthrow Henry in fulfilment of ancient Welsh prophesies.

    Rhys was convicted of treason and was executed in December 1531. The execution caused widespread dismay and he was openly said to have been innocent.[2] Contemporary writer Ellis Gruffudd, however, argued that the arrogance of the Rhys family had caused their downfall, saying that “many men regarded his death as Divine retribution for the falsehoods of his ancestors, his grandfather, and great-grandfather, and for their oppressions and wrongs. They had many a deep curse from the poor people who were their neighbours, for depriving them of their homes, lands and riches.”[3]

    Historian Ralph Griffith asserts that “Rhys’s execution...was an act of judicial murder based on charges devised to suit the prevailing political and dynastic situation”. Since it was linked to Henry’s attempt to centralise power and break with the church of Rome, he argues that it “in retrospect made him [Rhys] one of the earliest martyrs of the English Reformation.”[2] Rhys was believed to be opposed to the Reformation and had spoken disparagingly of Anne Boleyn . He had also been friendly with Katherine of Aragon and Cardinal Wolsey, so ridding himself of Rhys helped Henry to prepare the ground for the Reformation.[4] The execution led to fears of a Welsh rebellion. One clergyman was concerned that the Welsh and Irish would join together.[2]

    Family
    With his death Rhys’ vast possessions were forfeit to the crown. His children are known by the Anglicised surname “Rice”. His son, Griffith Rice (c.1530–1584), was restored to some of the family estates by Queen Mary .[1] His daughter Agnes Rice had a celebrated affair with William Stourton, 7th Baron Stourton , and in defiance of the rights of his widow and children, she inherited much of the Stourton estates after his death. She later married Sir Edward Baynton, and had children by both William and Edward.

    Rhys’ grandson Henry Rice aka Price Rhys, born 1634 Redstone, Pembrokeshire is listed on Rootsweb along with his descendants.

    References
    [1] Dictionary of Welsh Biography, National Library of Wales
    [2] Ralph Griffith, Rhys ap Thomas and his Family, University of Wales Press, Cardiff, 1993, pp.106, 110–11.
    [3] Griffiths, p.72.
    [4] London Carmarthenshire society, A history of Carmarthenshire, Volume 1, Society by W. Lewis limited, 1935, p.263.

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    Rhys married Howard, Lady Catherine in 1524 in North Crawley, Buckinghamshire, England. Catherine (daughter of Howard, Lord Duke Thomas I and Tilney, Lady Elizabeth Agnes) was born on 30 May 1499 in Ashwellthorpe, Norfolk, England; died on 10 May 1554 in Howard Chapel, Lambeth, Surrey, England; was buried on 21 May 1554 in Howard Chapel, Lambeth, Surrey, England. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

    Children:
    1. 15. ap Rhys, Gruffydd  Descendancy chart to this point was born in 1524 in Newton House, Llandeilo, Carmarthenshire, Wales; died in 1588 in Bures Saint Mary, Suffolk, England.

  2. 14.  Herbert, WatkinHerbert, Watkin Descendancy chart to this point (12.William10, 10.Margaret9, 8.Thomas8, 7.Gruffydd7, 6.Nicholas6, 5.Philip5, 4.Philip4, 3.Elidur3, 2.Elidur2, 1.Margaret1) was born in 1517 in Skenfrith, Monmouthshire, Wales; died in 1564 in Monmouthshire, Wales; was buried in 1564 in Newport Catherdral of St Woollos, Newport, Monmouthshire, Wales.

    Other Events and Attributes:

    • Appointments / Titles: Sir Knight
    • Nickname: Walter
    • Appointments / Titles: Between 1541 and 1542; High Sherriff of Breconshire
    • Appointments / Titles: Between 1547 and 1548; High Sheriff of Breconshire
    • Appointments / Titles: Between 1551 and 1552; High Sheriff of Monmouthshire
    • Will: 9 Mar 1551
    • Appointments / Titles: 1558; Member of Parliment for Breconshire

    Notes:

    From the History of Parliment

    ConstituencyDates
    BRECONSHIRE
    1558
    Family and Education
    b. by 1517, s. of William Thomas Herbert of Crickhowel by a da. of Jenkin Melyf. m. Margaret, da. of Morgan Thomas Hir, at least 1s.1

    Offices Held
    Sheriff, Brec. 1541-2, 1547-8, Mon. 1551-2; commr. subsidy, Brec. 1543, relief 1550, goods of churches and fraternities 1553; j.p. 1555, q. 1558/59-64.2

    Biography
    The Herbert family of Crickhowel was of illegitimate descent from Sir Richard Herbert (d.1469) of Coldbrook, Monmouthshire, brother of the then Earl of Pembroke. Walter Herbert, who was also known by the diminutive Watkin, is to be distinguished from a namesake of Brecon who was a justice in 1543 and commissioner in 1550, with Herbert, for the collection of the third part of the relief. It is clear from later evidence that it was Walter Herbert of Crickhowel who in March 1538 leased for £42 a year all the mills in the lordship of Brecon and fishery rights in the Neath and Tawe rivers. As Watkin Herbert he became the second sheriff of the new county of Brecon: he was to serve a second term there and one in Monmouthshire. He sued out a general pardon at the accession of Mary and was involved in litigation for debt at the great sessions in 1554. Of the circumstances of his return to the last Parliament of the reign, or of the part which he played in it, nothing has been discovered.3

    At Elizabeth’s accession Herbert again secured a general pardon, and his dependability was shown by his being put on the quorum of the Breconshire bench. After 1564 nothing more is heard of him, no will or inquisition surviving.4

    Ref Volumes: 1509-1558
    Author: P. S. Edwards
    Notes
    1. Date of birth estimated from first reference. Dwnn. Vis. Wales, ii. 37; Harl. ch. 111 B26; Cat. Mss Wales (Cymmrod. rec. ser. iv), 588.
    2. E179/219/29; CPR, 1553, pp. 364419; 1563-6, p. 29; SP11/5/6.
    3. G. T. Clark, Limbus Patrum Morganiae, 301; C193/12/1; LP Hen. VIII, xiii, xix; CPR, CPR, 1553, p. 364; 1555-7, p. 484; NLW ms Wales 17/5.
    4.CPR, 1558-60, p. 193.

    Watkin Herbert
    From GENi

    Watkin Herbert
    Birthdate: 1525
    Birthplace: Monmouthshire, Wales, United Kingdom
    Death: (Date and location unknown)

    Immediate Family:
    Father:
    Charles Herbert
    Mother:
    Elizabeth Herbert
    Spouse:
    Catrin verch Thomas
    Children:
    Gwenllian Thomas;
    Alice Herbert;
    Blanche Herbert;
    Catherine Herbert;
    Charles Herbert;
    3 others
    Siblings:
    Blanche Herbert;
    Joan Herbert:
    John Herbert

    Occupation:
    Sheriff of Monmouthshire in 1552

    Watkin married Thomas, Margaret in 1557 in Skenfrith, Monmouthshire, Wales. Margaret (daughter of Thomas, Morgan) was born in 1536 in Skenfrith, Monmouthshire, Wales; died in 1580 in Monmouthshire, Wales. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

    Children:
    1. 16. Herbert, Gwenllian  Descendancy chart to this point was born in 1558 in Skenfrith, Monmouthshire, Wales; died in 1584 in Swansea, Glamorgan, Wales; was buried in 1584 in Swansea, Glamorgan, Wales.


Generation: 12

  1. 15.  ap Rhys, Gruffyddap Rhys, Gruffydd Descendancy chart to this point (13.Rhys11, 11.Gruffydd10, 9.Rhys9, 8.Thomas8, 7.Gruffydd7, 6.Nicholas6, 5.Philip5, 4.Philip4, 3.Elidur3, 2.Elidur2, 1.Margaret1) was born in 1524 in Newton House, Llandeilo, Carmarthenshire, Wales; died in 1588 in Bures Saint Mary, Suffolk, England.

    Other Events and Attributes:

    • FSID: L6GB-V48
    • Birth: 1508, Newton, Lancashire, England

    Family/Spouse: Jones, Lady Eleanor. Eleanor (daughter of Jones, Thomas) was born in 1529 in Newton House, Llandeilo, Carmarthenshire, Wales; died in 1595 in Wales. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

    Children:
    1. 17. ap Gruffydd, Thomas  Descendancy chart to this point was born in 1520 in Carmarthenshire, Wales; died in 1585 in Ebbemant, Caemarthen, Wales.

  2. 16.  Herbert, Gwenllian Descendancy chart to this point (14.Watkin11, 12.William10, 10.Margaret9, 8.Thomas8, 7.Gruffydd7, 6.Nicholas6, 5.Philip5, 4.Philip4, 3.Elidur3, 2.Elidur2, 1.Margaret1) was born in 1558 in Skenfrith, Monmouthshire, Wales; died in 1584 in Swansea, Glamorgan, Wales; was buried in 1584 in Swansea, Glamorgan, Wales.

    Other Events and Attributes:

    • FSID: L6KX-N2L

    Notes:

    Gwenllian Thomas
    From GENi

    Gwenllian Thomas (Herbert)
    Birthdate: 1558 (26)
    Birthplace: Monmouth, Wales
    Death: Died 1584 in England, United Kingdom

    Immediate Family:
    Father:
    Watkin Herbert;
    Catrin verch Thomas
    Spouse:
    John ap Philip Thomas
    Children:
    Rice Thomas;
    Evan Thomas
    Siblings:
    Alice Herbert;
    Blanche Herbert;
    Catherine Herbert;
    Charles Herbert;
    Elizabeth Herbert;
    Mary Herbert;
    Maud Herbert

    Born in 1558 - Skenfrith, Monmouthshire, Wales Deceased (Unknown)
    Parents
    Watkin Herbert ca 1522-1555/ Catrin verch Thomas ca 1526-
    Spouses and children
    Married to John Philip ap Thomas 1554- with M Evan Thomas 1580-

    Gwenllian married Thomas, John Phillip in 1578 in Swansea, Glamorgan, Wales. John (son of ap Gruffydd, Thomas and Scudamore, Sybill) was born in 1554 in Swansea, Glamorgan, Wales; died in 1584 in Swansea, Glamorgan, Wales; was buried in 1584 in Swansea, Glamorgan, Wales. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

    Children:
    1. 18. Thomas, Evan  Descendancy chart to this point was born in 1580 in Swansea, Glamorgan, Wales; was christened in England; died in 1650 in Maryland, USA; was buried in 1650 in Maryland, USA.