Thomæ, LORENZ George Sr
1823 - 1881 (58 years)-
Name Thomæ, LORENZ George [1] Suffix Sr Birth 5 Jan 1823 Sonnefeld - Hofstädten, Coburg, Bayern, Germany [2, 3, 4, 5] - House 51a
Gender Male Departure 27 Aug 1854 Sonnefeld - Hofstädten, Coburg, Bayern, Germany [2] Nickname Lawrence Occupation Potter Religion Boonville German Evangelical Church, Boonville, Cooper, Missouri, USA Death 11 Jan 1881 Boonville, Cooper, Missouri, USA [2] - 11th Street
Burial 13 Jan 1881 Walnut Grove Cemetery, Boonville, Cooper, Missouri, USA [2, 6] Person ID I6271 The Thoma Family Last Modified 20 Sep 2023
Father Thomæ, Johann Ludwig, b. 8 Jun 1781, Sonnefeld - Hofstädten, Coburg, Bayern, Germany d. 23 Oct 1854, Sonnefeld - Hofstädten, Coburg, Bayern, Germany (Age 73 years) Relationship natural Mother Schrauter, Kunigunda, b. 1784, Großgarnstadt, Coburg, Bayern, Germany d. 12 Nov 1854, Sonnefeld - Hofstädten, Coburg, Bayern, Germany (Age 70 years) Relationship natural Marriage Sonnefeld - Hofstädten, Coburg, Bayern, Germany Family ID F303 Group Sheet | Family Chart
Family Walther, Margarethe Barbara, b. 21 Feb 1824, Sonnefeld - Hofstädten, Coburg, Bayern, Germany d. 23 Sep 1916, Boonville, Cooper, Missouri, USA (Age 92 years) Marriage 1848 Sonnefeld - Hofstädten, Coburg, Bayern, Germany Children 1. Thoma, John Caspar, b. 10 Jul 1849, Sonnefeld - Hofstädten, Coburg, Bayern, Germany d. 28 Mar 1944, Rio Oso, Sutter, California, USA (Age 94 years) [natural] 2. Thoma, GEORGE John, b. 12 Apr 1854, Sonnefeld - Hofstädten, Coburg, Bayern, Germany d. 10 Nov 1922, Pocahontas, Randolph, Arkansas, USA (Age 68 years) [natural] 3. Thoma, William Henry, b. 24 May 1857, Boonville, Cooper, Missouri, USA d. 15 Jan 1934, Boonville, Cooper, Missouri, USA (Age 76 years) [natural] 4. Thoma, Bertha Amelia "Mary", b. 28 Nov 1859, Boonville, Cooper, Missouri, USA d. 14 Jul 1949, Boonville, Cooper, Missouri, USA (Age 89 years) [natural] 5. Thoma, Edward George, b. 23 Dec 1862, Boonville, Cooper, Missouri, USA d. 31 Dec 1924, Boonville, Cooper, Missouri, USA (Age 62 years) [natural] 6. Thoma, Annie Wilhelmine, b. 4 Apr 1865, Boonville, Cooper, Missouri, USA d. 21 Aug 1955, Boonville, Cooper, Missouri, USA (Age 90 years) [natural] Family ID F8516 Group Sheet | Family Chart Last Modified 20 Sep 2023
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Documents Siebenhundert Jahre Sonnefeld Sonnefeld Administration Sonnefeld Arms Sonnefeld, 700 Jahre Sonnefeld Kloisterkirche Sonnefeld Lutheran Church
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Notes - In the church records for the death of Johann Ludwig Thomæ it lists his survivors. It lists his two sons Lorenz and Lorenz; five daughters Anna Margaretha, Barbara, Margaretha Barbara, and Dorothea. It the church records it lists a Lorenz Thomæ Sr. and a Lorenz Thomæ, Jr. While I have always thought this to be a father son relationship, it is not. Instead it refers to the two Lorenzs in the same family.
But then I noticed that, in 1853 and 1854, the Regierungs- und Intelligenzblatt für das Herzogthum Coburg [Admininstrative and Intelligence Bulletin for the Duchy of Coburg] was running announcements about the people who were leaving Sonnefeld, Frohnlach and Ebersdorf for "Nordamerika". On Issue No. 66, Saturday, 19 August 1854, it mentioned two of your ancestors, side by side, on the same page. I've attached for you the copy of the top halves of the two pages in the original German. Here is the English translation of the following announcements:
Emigration of Margaretha Barbara Walter of Hofstädten toNorth America.
Margaretha Barbara Walter of Hofstädten is emigrating to North America and wishes to begin the journey on or around 27th of this month; any notices against her should be made known immediately.
Sonnefeld, 14 August 1854.
Ducal Office of Justice of Saxe-Coburg
R. Rose.
Emigration of the Potter Lorenz Thomä of Hofstädten to NorthAmerica.
The potter Lorenz Thomä of Hofstädten is emigrating to North America and wishes to begin the journey on or around 27th of this month; any notices against him should be made known immediately.
Sonnefeld, 14 August 1854.
Ducal Office of Justice of Saxe-Coburg
R. Rose.
In 1778 Johann Paul Thomæ was living in House 51a in Hofstädten. In 1811 after the death of Johann Paul it came into the possession of Johann Ernst Thomæ and his wife Sabine. After the death of Maria Savina nee’ Bechmann Thomæ in into the possession of Johann Ludwig Thomæ. And Barbara Thomæ was awarded the Brennhaus. In 1835 Johann Ludwig came into possession of both House 51a and 51b. In 1852 the house came into the possession of Lorenz Thomæ, Sr. and in 1844 passed into the house of Lorenz Thomæ, Jr. Finally in 1854 it came into the possession of Ludwig Thomæ, Sr. (the father of the potter). Then in 1855 in passed to Margaretha Thomæ and her brothers and sisters. So I come to the conclusion that Lorenz Thoma immigrated to America after the death of this father in 1854.
- In the church records for the death of Johann Ludwig Thomæ it lists his survivors. It lists his two sons Lorenz and Lorenz; five daughters Anna Margaretha, Barbara, Margaretha Barbara, and Dorothea. It the church records it lists a Lorenz Thomæ Sr. and a Lorenz Thomæ, Jr. While I have always thought this to be a father son relationship, it is not. Instead it refers to the two Lorenzs in the same family.
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Sources - [S827] WORLD: Dictionary of National Biography.
https://catalog.hathitrust.org/Record/009805258 - [S247] USA: MO: COOPER: Boonville Evangelical Church in Boonville.
https://www.facebook.com/EUCCBoonville/Boonville Evangelical Church Boonville German Methodist Church - [S359] GERMANY: BAYERN: Evangelical Church of Sonnefeld, Coburg, Bayern, Germany.
Transcription from original German Church books. - [S327] WORLD: Find-a-Grave.
https://www.findagrave.com/ - [S716] GERMANY: BAYERN: Siebenhundert Jahre Sonnefeld.
- [S105] USA: MO: COOPER: Walnut Grove Cemetery in Boonville.
James F. Thoma
jfthoma@chartertn.net
http://www.mogenweb.org/cooper/CooperBitsCem.htmWalnut Grove Cemetery, Boonville, MO.pdf Walnut Grove Cemetery, Boonville, MO.jpg
- [S827] WORLD: Dictionary of National Biography.