de Gyney, Roger

Male UNKNOWN - 1198


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  • Name de Gyney, Roger 
    Birth UNKNOWN  Norfolk, England Find all individuals with events at this location 
    Gender Male 
    Appointments / Titles Between 1161 and 1181 
    Announcement of Legal Dispute Involving Roger 
    Appointments / Titles 1180  Norfolk, England Find all individuals with events at this location 
    Roger mentioned in the Pipe Roll 
    FSID GKF1-SQB 
    Death 1198  Norfolk, England Find all individuals with events at this location 
    Person ID I35681  The Thoma Family
    Last Modified 20 Sep 2023 

    Father de Gyney, William,   b. Bef 1110, Norfolk, England Find all individuals with events at this locationd. Abt 1175, Norfolk, England Find all individuals with events at this location (Age > 65 years) 
    Relationship natural 
    Family ID F14225  Group Sheet  |  Family Chart

    Children 
     1. de Gyney, William,   b. 1201, Haveringland, Norfolk, England Find all individuals with events at this locationd. 1230, Haveringland, Norfolk, England Find all individuals with events at this location (Age 29 years)  [natural]
    Family ID F14224  Group Sheet  |  Family Chart
    Last Modified 20 Sep 2023 

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  • Notes 
    • Biography
      Roger was the grandson of another Roger, who had lived in the time of King William Rufus. His predecessor and probable father was the son of this earlier Roger, named William, who stops appearing around 1175. His successor and possible son was also named William, and he appears from about 1199.

      In charter no. 9 in the cartulary of Stoke by Clare (vol.1, p.7), dated to 1138-1152, King Stephen [reigned 1135-1154] says that Willelmus de Ginneio was holding Haveringland in Norfolk and his family had held it from the time of William Rufus. This William had it since the time of Stephen's uncle (avunculus) King Henry I, and had ruled since the death of his father Rogerus de Ginneio, who had been lord in the time of uncle (avunculus) who he called Willelmus Blundus. The cartulary shows that Roger had granted tithes from these lordships to this priory. (See for example charter 37, page 29.)

      In 1166 when the knights of different baronies were listed, William de Gisnes still held three knights' fees under the Honour of Clare in Suffolk.[1]

      Stoke by Clare charter 143 (pp. 128-131), dated 30 June 1174, names William de Gisnai as the holder of Haveringland and Whitwell.[2]

      William de Gisnai is mentioned in the Pipe Rolls for Norfolk and Suffolk in 1174.[3]

      Roger de Gisnei is mentioned in the Pipe Rolls for Norfolk and Suffolk in 1180.[4]

      1173-1182. Stoke by Clare charter 55, pp. 39-40 discusses the share of tithes which this family had long ago granted to that priory, coming from lands in Haveringland and Whitwell in Norfolk. It mentions that the Roger Gignei, Ginnei or Ginnai who made the original grants was the grandfather (avus) of the present Roger. [2]

      Stoke by Clare charter 125 (p.98), dated by the editors as being between October 1166 and about 1181, announces the resolution of a legal dispute Roger de Gisnai, lord at Haveringland and Whitwell, was involved in.[2]

      In an enquiry into serjeantries in 1198/9, Willemus de Gisnei did castle service in the Norfolk hundred of Eynford, which is where Haveringland and Whitwell are.[5]

      In the time of King Richard I (1189-1199) or King John (1199-1216), it was William de Gyney or Gioneto who founded the priory of Mountjoy at the family's manor of Heveringland.[6] (VCH Norfolk dates this to the time of Richard I. Dugdale believed it was founded in the time of King John, based on one name in the witness list.[7])

      "William de Gyney was apparently holding Pickworth in 1203." (Assize R. (Northants. Rec. Soc. v), nos. 716, 780, 853, 854.) [8]

      "In 1205 William paid a fine to be excused from supplying wood for repairs at Norwich Castle." (Curia Regis R. iii, 272; Rot. Litt. Claus. (Rec. Com.), i, 54.)[8]

      Sources
      ↑ Red Book of the Exchequer, volume 1, p. 404.
      ↑ 2.0 2.1 2.2 Harper-Bill and Mortimer eds, Stoke by Clare Cartulary. Available on Ancestry.com
      ↑ Pipe Rolls of 20 Henry II, p.44.
      ↑ Pipe Rolls of 26 Henry II, p.23.
      ↑ Book of Fees, vol.2, p.1325
      ↑ 'Houses of Austin canons: The priory of Mountjoy', in A History of the County of Norfolk: Volume 2, ed. William Page (London, 1906), pp. 387-388. British History Online http://www.british-history.ac.uk/vch/norf/vol2/pp387-388 [accessed 19 September 2022].
      ↑ Dugdale (1830) Monasticon, Vol.6 Part 1. p.572. Compare to Taylor, Index Monasticus, p.24 who suggests the time of Richard.
      ↑ 8.0 8.1 'Parishes: Pickworth', in A History of the County of Rutland: Volume 2, ed. William Page (London, 1935), pp. 265-268. British History Online http://www.british-history.ac.uk/vch/rutland/vol2/pp265-268 [accessed 20 September 2022].