Marshal, John FitzGilbert

Male 1105 - 1165  (59 years)


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  • Name Marshal, John FitzGilbert  [1, 2, 3, 4, 5
    Birth 26 Nov 1105  Pembrokeshire, Wales Find all individuals with events at this location  [3
    Gender Male 
    Appointments / Titles 1129 
    King's Marshall 
    Military 14 Sep 1141  Winchester, Hampshire, England Find all individuals with events at this location 
    Battle during "The Anarchy", a civil war of the time. It ended with John's side fleeing in a rout. 
    FSID 9CS2-QX2  [6, 7, 8
    Death 29 Sep 1165  Rockley, Wiltshire, England Find all individuals with events at this location  [1, 3, 4
    Burial Oct 1165  Bradenstoke, Wiltshire, England Find all individuals with events at this location  [1
    Person ID I35563  The Thoma Family
    Last Modified 20 Sep 2023 

    Father Giffard, Gilbert,   b. 1065, Tonbridge, Kent, England Find all individuals with events at this locationd. 1130, Winterborne Monkton, Dorset, England Find all individuals with events at this location (Age 65 years) 
    Relationship natural 
    Mother de Venoix, Margaret,   b. 5 Nov 1083, Venoix, Caen, Calvados, Basse-Normandie, France Find all individuals with events at this locationd. 1119, Pembroke, Pembrokeshire, Wales Find all individuals with events at this location (Age 35 years) 
    Relationship natural 
    Family ID F14152  Group Sheet  |  Family Chart

    Family de Salisbury, Sibyl,   b. 27 Nov 1126, Salisbury, Wiltshire, England Find all individuals with events at this locationd. 3 Jun 1176, Pembroke Castle, Pembroke, Pembrokeshire, Wales Find all individuals with events at this location (Age 49 years) 
    Marriage 1144  Wiltshire, England Find all individuals with events at this location  [9
    Children 
     1. Marshal, Earl William,   b. 12 May 1146, Pembroke, Pembrokeshire, Wales Find all individuals with events at this locationd. 14 May 1219, Caversham Manor, Caversham, Oxfordshire, England Find all individuals with events at this location (Age 73 years)  [natural]
    Family ID F14151  Group Sheet  |  Family Chart
    Last Modified 20 Sep 2023 

  • Event Map
    Link to Google MapsBirth - 26 Nov 1105 - Pembrokeshire, Wales Link to Google Earth
    Link to Google MapsMilitary - Battle during "The Anarchy", a civil war of the time. It ended with John's side fleeing in a rout. - 14 Sep 1141 - Winchester, Hampshire, England Link to Google Earth
    Link to Google MapsMarriage - 1144 - Wiltshire, England Link to Google Earth
    Link to Google MapsDeath - 29 Sep 1165 - Rockley, Wiltshire, England Link to Google Earth
    Link to Google MapsBurial - Oct 1165 - Bradenstoke, Wiltshire, England Link to Google Earth
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  • Notes 
    • John FitzGilbert the Marshal of the Horses (c. 1105 – 1165) was a minor nobleman of supposed Anglo-Norman origin, during the reign of King Stephen, and fought in the 12th century civil war on the side of Empress Matilda.

      Life
      Beginning in 1130[1] and probably earlier, he had been the royal marshal to King Henry I. When Henry died, John FitzGilbert swore for Stephen and was granted the castles of Marlborough and Ludgershall, Wiltshire during this time. Along with Hamstead Marshal, this gave him control of the valley of the River Kennet in Wiltshire. He also held lands in Somerset, Berkshire, and owned some buildings in Winchester.[2] When Empress Matilda and her supporters landed in Sussex in 1139 to press her claim for the throne, John seems to have only been a nominal supporter of Stephen.[3] His loyalty to the king seems to have been in sufficient doubt that his castle at Marlborough was briefly besieged. When Stephen was captured at the Battle of Lincoln in 1141, John switched allegiance to Matilda. In September 1141, Matilda fled the siege of Winchester and took refuge in the Marshal's castle at Ludgershall. While covering her retreat from Winchester, John Marshal was forced to take refuge at Wherwell Abbey. The attackers set fire to the building, and John lost an eye to dripping lead from the melting roof.[4]

      In 1152, John had a celebrated confrontation with King Stephen, who had besieged him at Newbury Castle. After John had broken an agreement to surrender, Stephen threatened to kill his son, whom John had given as a hostage. John refused, saying he could make more sons, but Stephen apparently took pity on the young boy and did not kill him. The boy grew up to be William Marshal, 1st Earl of Pembroke, a legendary figure in medieval lore, and one of the most powerful men in England.

      Later in his life, John briefly became entangled in the Becket Controversy. Having unsuccessfully tried to assert a claim over the archbishop's land in Pagham in 1164, John then appealed to the king. Although John's claims were dubious at best,[5] King Henry used the affair to his advantage against Becket, who had refused to appear in person at the appeal. The resulting Council of Northampton in October 1164 led to further charges being aimed at Becket, such as embezzlement during his time as chancellor,[6] and he would soon flee to the continent.

      The office of Lord Marshal, which originally related to the keeping of the King's horses, and later, the head of his household troops, was won as a hereditary title by John, passed to his eldest son and was later claimed by William.

      Family
      John was the son of Gilbert, Royal Serjeant and Marshal to Henry I, and his wife Margaret. After his father died in 1129, John inherited the title of King's Marshal. John married Aline Pipard, whose father Walter Pipard had been a friend of John's father. John repudiated Aline, about 1141; she subsequently married Stephen de Gay. John married (2nd) Sibyl of Salisbury, the sister of Patrick of Salisbury, who had been a local rival of his, and a supporter of King Stephen, up to that point. John had two sons by Aline Pipard – Gilbert (died 1166) and Walter (died before 1165). Walter predeceased his father and Gilbert died shortly after inheriting his father's lands.

      John's eldest son by Sibyl of Salisbury, also called John Marshal (1145–1194), inherited the title of Marshal, which he held until his death. The title was then granted by King Richard the Lionheart to his second son by Sibyl, William (1147–1219), who made the name and title famous. Though he had started out as a younger son without inheritance, by the time he inherited the title his reputation as a soldier and statesman was unmatched across Western Europe. John Marshal had four sons by his second wife. As well as John and William, there were Henry (1150–1206), who went on to become Bishop of Exeter, and Anselm, who served as a knight in the household of his kinsman, Rotrou IV, Count of Perche. There were also daughters: Maud (wife of William le Gras), Margaret and Sybilla. Maud's daughter, Margaret, married Ralph de Somery, son of John de Somery and Hawise de Paynell.

      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Marshal_(Marshal_of_England)

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      “Royal Ancestry: A Study in Colonial & Medieval Families,” Douglas Richardson (2013):
      “GILBERT, King's Marshal. He married ___. They had two sons, John and William Giffard. Sometime before 1130 he and his son, John, appeared in the king's court where they successfully maintained their office of master of the king's marshalsea against William de Hastings and Robert de Venoiz. He died in or shortly before 1130.
      Hardy Rotuli Chartarum in Turri Londinensi Asservati 1(1) (1837): 46-47. East Anglian 3 (1869): 30-32. Round Commune of London (1899): 305-306. Painter William Marshal Knight-Errant, Baron & Regent of England (1933). C.P. 10 (1945): Appendix G, 91-99 (sub Rise of the Marshal). Keats-Rohan Domesday People (1999): 391 (author suggests Gilbert Marshal is possibly the son of Robert Marescal Norman, who occurs as a marshal in Domesday Wiltshire).
      Children of Gilbert the Marshal, by
      i. JOHN FITZ GILBERT (or JOHN THE MARSHAL) [see next].
      ii. WILLIAM GIFFARD. He was presented to the church of Cheddar, Somerset sometime in the period, 1123-35. He was Chancellor to the Empress Maud c.1141-47. He is believed to be the William the Chancellor who witnessed three charters of King David I in Scotland. He appears to have witnessed charters between 1141 and 1153 as "Brother William Giffard." Rpt. on the MSS of the Wells Cathedral (Hist. MSS Comm. 12A) (1885): 68. Round Geoffrey de Mandeville (1892): 88-95, 123, 171, 180-183 (William the Chancellor styled "brother" [fratre] of John Fitz Gilbert), 195. Cal. MSS. Dean & Chapter of Wells 1 (Hist. MSS. Comm., vol. 12B(1) (1907): 144. C.P. 10 (1945): 526 footnote c (sub Pipard), Appendix G, 92, footnote h (sub Rise of the Marshal). Chibnall Anglo-Norman Studies 14 (1992): 31-32. Garnett & Hudson Land & Government in Medieval England & Normandy (1994): 291-292.”
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      ... William, who entered holy orders and had the living of the church of Cheddar in Somerset. He went on to become chancellor to the Empress Matilda.

      http://livingthehistoryelizabethchadwick.blogspot.com/2009/10/biography-of-john-marshal.html

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