de la Haye, Sir William II

Male 1130 - 1240  (110 years)


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  • Name de la Haye, William  [1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10
    Title Sir 
    Suffix II 
    Birth 1130  La Haye-du-Puits, Manche, Basse-Normandie, France Find all individuals with events at this location  [1, 2, 3, 5, 6, 7, 10
    Gender Male 
    Appointments / Titles Cup bearer or butler to Malcolm IV and William the Lion  [1, 2, 3, 5, 7
    FSID MN8C-JPK  [1, 2, 3, 5, 7
    Occupation Norman knight  [1, 2, 3, 5, 7
    Death 1240  St Andrews, Fife, Scotland Find all individuals with events at this location  [1, 2, 3, 5, 6, 7, 9, 10
    • 5mi south
    Person ID I33739  The Thoma Family
    Last Modified 20 Sep 2023 

    Father de la Haye, William I,   b. 1087, La Haye-du-Puits, Manche, Basse-Normandie, France Find all individuals with events at this locationd. 1170, Dunster, Somerset, England Find all individuals with events at this location (Age 83 years) 
    Relationship natural 
    Mother de Soules, Julianna,   b. 1120, Liddel Castle, Liddlesdale, Castleton, Perthshire, Scotland Find all individuals with events at this locationd. 1164, Tay Estuary, Perthshire, Scotland Find all individuals with events at this location (Age 44 years) 
    Relationship natural 
    Marriage 1134  France Find all individuals with events at this location  [2
    Family ID F13169  Group Sheet  |  Family Chart

    Family Strathearn, Eithne,   b. 1174, Strathearn, Pethshire, Scotland Find all individuals with events at this locationd. DECEASED 
    Children 
     1. de la Haye, Ralph IV,   b. 1165, Burwell, Lincolnshire, England Find all individuals with events at this locationd. 1205, Arlington, Sussex, England Find all individuals with events at this location (Age 40 years)  [natural]
    Family ID F13168  Group Sheet  |  Family Chart
    Last Modified 20 Sep 2023 

  • Event Map
    Link to Google MapsBirth - 1130 - La Haye-du-Puits, Manche, Basse-Normandie, France Link to Google Earth
    Link to Google MapsDeath - 1240 - St Andrews, Fife, Scotland Link to Google Earth
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  • Notes 
    • William was pincerna (cup bearer or butler) to Malcolm IV and William the Lion, succeeding his uncle, Ranulf I de Soules, although the exact dates that he held this position are unknown. He witnessed some of the later charters of Malcolm IV, in one of which he is styled pincerna, and he is also styled as such in some of the early charters of William the Lion.

      William de Haya, who held the office of royal butler to Malcolm IV. and William the Lion
      William who married Eva of Pitmulin, identifying him as the pincerna (cupbearer) to Kings Malcolm IV and William the Lion. Commoners (vol i, Hays of Leys) shows that honour to have been held by that William's father, the William who follows. TSP (Erroll) reports "The pincerna of 1171 is clearly the person who married Eva ...so that if there were two successive Williams as given in the Peerages, they must have held the office one before and the other after Ranulph de Soulis."

      The family appears in Scottish records in the 1100's during the reign of William the Lion, who bestowed on him the lands of Errol. William de La Haye was a cup bearer (butler) to King Malcom IV who reigned between 1153-1165. One source says: William married the Celtic heiress Eva who brought him the Errol lands. But another source says it was William the Lion (brother of King Malcom) who bestowed on him the lands of Errol. William de Haya married Juliana de Sordis (maybe) William de Hay married a daughter of Randolph, Lord of Liddlesdale, and had children. His second son, Robert became the ancestor of the Earl of Tweeddale. William also married Helen, daughter of the Earl of Strathearn.

      About William de La Haye of Errol, Butler of Scotland
      William who married Eva of Pitmulin, identifying him as the pincerna (cupbearer) to Kings Malcolm IV and William the Lion. Commoners (vol i, Hays of Leys) shows that honour to have been held by that William's father, the William who follows. TSP (Erroll) reports "The pincerna of 1171 is clearly the person who married Eva ...so that if there were two successive Williams as given in the Peerages, they must have held the office one before and the other after Ranulph de Soulis."
      Name: William De LA HAYE , 1st Laird Of Erroll
      Sex: M
      Birth: BEF 1160 in Scotland
      Death: 1201
      Marriage 1 Eva Of PITMULIN , Heiress Of Pitmulin b: ABT 1170 in Scotland
      Children
      David De LA HAYE , 2nd Laird Of Erroll b: ABT 1190 in Scotland
      William De LA HAYE b: ABT 1192 in Scotland
      John De LA HAYE , Sheriff Of Perth b: ABT 1194 in Scotland
      Thomas De LA HAYE b: ABT 1196 in Scotland
      Robert De LA HAYE b: ABT 1198 in Scotland
      Malcolm De LA HAYE b: ABT 1200 in Scotland
      Unknown De LA HAYE b: ABT 1200 in Scotland

      William de Haya, who held the office of royal butler to Malcolm IV. and William the Lion
      William who married Eva of Pitmulin, identifying him as the pincerna (cupbearer) to Kings Malcolm IV and William the Lion. Commoners (vol i, Hays of Leys) shows that honour to have been held by that William's father, the William who follows. TSP (Erroll) reports "The pincerna of 1171 is clearly the person who married Eva ...so that if there were two successive Williams as given in the Peerages, they must have held the office one before and the other after Ranulph de Soulis."

      The family appears in Scottish records in the 1100's during the reign of William the Lion, who bestowed on him the lands of Errol. William de La Haye was a cup bearer (butler) to King Malcom IV who reigned between 1153-1165. One source says: William married the Celtic heiress Eva who brought him the Errol lands. But another source says it was William the Lion (brother of King Malcom) who bestowed on him the lands of Errol. William de Haya married Juliana de Sordis (maybe) William de Hay married a daughter of Randolph, Lord of Liddlesdale, and had children. His second son, Robert became the ancestor of the Earl of Tweeddale. William also married Helen, daughter of the Earl of Strathearn.

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