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- From Hans-Dietrich Lemmel:
Friedrich Holzschuher - Schöffe in Nuremberg
◆ Parents: Heinrich Holzschuher, (Elisabeth?) von Gründlach
◆ (* about? 1250), † 20.3.1339 buried in the Katharinenkapelle of the monastery Ebrach
◆ Mentioned from 1270. 1303.1314 Schöffe in Nuremberg. His daughter is probably Irmel, who lives from 1335 as a widowed Lemlein in Nuremberg.
◆ ∞1) (about? 1275) with Jutta Stromer
⁃ (* about? 1255/1260)
⁃ her parents: Conrad Stromer N578 , (* about? 1230), † before 20.7.1319
⁃ Conrad 1283-1313 erw. 1291 Schöffe in Nuremberg. In 1313 he buys a meadow near Hersbruck. See Stro-22 / a ( Er ∞2) (about? 1300) with Kunigunde / Anna v.Laufenholz N851 , (* about? 1280) ) ; ∞ (about? 1255) with (Sofie?) Esler , (* about? 1235) Your first name is not Kunigunde. 11 children ..
◆ ∞2) (about? 1290/1300) with Jutta Graf who was (* about? 1260) She was mentioned in 1308 and 1318 as the wife of Friedrich Holzschuher. Sister of Conrad Graf (documented 1287-1308); her father probably the alderman Hermann Comes (documentary 1255, 1258). Her father: Hermann Comes, (* about? 1220) alderman , documented 1255, 1258. See Graf-21 / a
Children:
from 1st marriage:
1 Heinrich, (* about? 1275) - in Nuremberg, see wood-23 / a
2. Gerhaus wooden shoe H022 , (* about? 1275/1280)
∞ (about? 1300/1305) with Konrad Weigel N521
(* about? 1275), † before 1341
1305 mentioned as a customer of Seifried Holzschuher. See Weig-23 / f
his father: ... Weigel N804 , (* 1240)
Suspected father of the Holzschuher group of Weigel , born around 1275. See Weig-22 / g2
3. Seifried, (* 1275/1280) - councilor in Nuremberg, see Holz-23 / b
4. Friedrich, (* about? 1280) - in Nuremberg, see Holz-23 / bb
5. (daughter) Holzschuher H024 , (* about? 1280)
∞ with Sifrid Weigel N799
(* about? 1275)
In 1318 he sold, inter alia, the bailiwick of the court in Wolkersdorf to his father-in-law Friedrich Holzschuher . [Scharr Bl.f.fr.Fk 1962] [not requested by Hirschmann] See Weig-23 / g
his father: ... Weigel N804 , (* 1240)
Suspected father of the Holzschuher group of Weigel , born around 1275. See Weig-22 / g2
6. Irmel (Holzschuher) n603 , (* about? 1280/1285), † after 1363
1335-1363 Irmel Lemblinne in Nuremberg. 1360 rich donation to the Andreasaltar of the Nuremberg Lorenzkirche.
∞ around 1305/10 with Hermann Lemmel / Lemlein n674
(* about? 1280), † before 1336
1304 "H.Lemlein" in the Holzschuherbuch, 1319 Hermannus Lemmel in Haßfurt. 1331 "the Lemler" in Nuremberg. See N-23 / a
his father: Chunrad Lembelin n673 , (* about? 1250)
1305 citizens in Nuremberg, and even before 1302. owned by Ansbach? After Nuremberg genealogies old Nuremberg family. See N-22 / a
Regesten:
Summary :
• By Biedermann "Friedrich I" Holzschuher, son of "Seifried I". That is incorrect. According to Scharr he is son of "Heinrich II".
• 1277-1311 in Nuremberg, here from 1391 in the Council.
• from 1311 in Ebrach, died here in 1339.
• Wife: Jutta Stromer , daughter of Conrad Stromer from his first marriage to a daughter Esler (not, as stated by Biedermann from a marriage with a Farnbacherin) . Then a second marriage with Jutta Graf .
• Children: Biedermann and Ebracher documents mention two sons, Heinrich and Seifried. Biedermann gives a daughter Gutta, who marries the Conrad Weigel . The certificates, however, indicate two daughters (no gutta), who are married to Konrad and Sifrid Weigel .
• Another son of "Friedrich I" must be married to an Ortlieb Friedrich, who is given in Biedermann "Frederick II" as a grandson of "Friedrich I", which can barely vote in time (HDL).
• Another daughter is probably the Irmel married Lemmel / Lemlein, as stated and justified by Herbert E. Lemmel.
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Biedermann :
• Friedrich I Holzschuher, came to the Council of Nuremberg in 1291. Ward 1309 Chief City Captain and first caretaker of St.Sebald's Church. Let the church at St.Sebald rebuild on the opposite side of the school, and was a great benefactor of the monastery Ebrach, which he gave reciprocally, even for himself and his sons in thought monastery a lay or men's benefice of the wear of the toe to Munchhofen he asserted that he or his would have their own dwelling for themselves and their servants, and would enjoy much liberation from the ordinary obligation of other Conversorum if they wished to turn themselves away from the world. In 1311 he resigned his offices at Nuremberg and was accepted as a spiritual co-brother of the Cistercian Order at Ebrach. Died in 1339 on the 25th of March in Ebrach and is the last one in the monastery church on the St.
• Wife Gutta Stromerin von Reichenbach, Mr. Conrad Stromers of Reichenbach, Senatoris and Baumeisters to Nuremberg, then a born Farnbacherin daughter, Mr. Hanß Petzens left behind widow, † 1365 the 4th October as a widow, and is also a benefactress in the monastery Ebrach to bury.
• His father: Seitz Holzschuher . (Incorrect!)
• His children: Heinrich, Seifried, Gutta ∞ 1318 with Conrad Weigel .
[Biedermann panel 167]
→ The mother of Jutta Stromer mentioned here : ... Farnbacher , ∞1) with Hans Petz , ∞2) with Conrad Stromer , is not confirmed by documents.
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Ebrach certificates :
• 27.9./26.12.1309: Friedrich Holzschuher buys tithes from the monastery Ebrach in the parish of Katzwang.
• 29.3.1311: The brothers Friedrich and Heinrich Zollner sell tithes in the villages of Ampferbach and Manndorf, fiefs of the Hochstift Würzburg, to Friedrich Holzschuher and Ulrich Haller .
• 25.4./1.8./18.9.1311: The abbot of Ebrach takes Friedrich Holzschuher into the monastery and grants him a house at the monastery, which he can inhabit together with a servant, and leaves him for life income from certain goods ,
• 18.10.1311: Friedrich Holzschuher buys goods from Gundeloch and Sophia von Windeck ....
• 7.4.1313: Friedrich Holzschuher and Friedrich von Kulmbach receive for life the usufruct of goods ....
• 28.2.1314: Otto, provost of Bamberg, confirms that the Zollner brothers are selling tithing at Debring / Teberingen to Friedrich Holzschuher .
• 26.3.1315: Abbot and convent of the monastery Ebrach let the house next to the infirmary of the monastery, which he currently inhabits, as a residence for Siegfried Holzschuher because of the benefits that he and his two sons have done to the monastery and grant him a benefice. Recipients: Friedrich, Heinrich and Siegfried Holzschuher .
• Also 10.8.1317.
→ Error note: The Regesten transcript 1315 and 1317 obviously has an error: The father's name is Friedrich (and not Siegfried), and the sons are Heinrich and Siegfried.
• 23.4.1316ff: Income from goods acquired by Friedrich Holzschuher for the monastery.
• 25.5.1327: Friedrich Holzschuher confesses that the income to Münchhof granted to him by the monastery Ebrach and the annual barrel of wine from Elgersheim / Ergershaim should fall back to the monastery after his death. Only if his two sons Heinrich and Siegfried want to settle in Ebrach in the house, which was left to him by the monastery, then they should receive this income and the wine for life.
• 20.9.1330: Siegfried Holzschuher receives a confirmation letter that he has bought various items from Else von Reichelsdorf .
• 14.11.1331: Friedrich Holzschuher renounces in favor of the monastery Ebrach on certain income.
• 16.12.1366: Siegfried Holzschuher as a trustee, like his late father ....
[Internet 2012, www.mom-ca.uni-koeln, Ebrach]
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Document regesta by various authors:
• 1270: Burggraf Friedrich the Elder gives the Conrad called Waldstromer a hereditary castle in Gostenhof, the village of the burgrave. Among the witnesses: ... Heinrich and Hilpolt v. Stein , ..., Berthold and Marquard brothers called Pfinzing , Sifrid called Ebner , Friedrich called Holzschuher , our ministerials and knights.
• 1276: Friedrich and Herdegen the Holzschuher are Burgmannen the burgrave Friedrich in his castrum Kraftshof ... Witnesses: Hermann and Sifrid called the Ebener , Heinrich by the surname Groß , Conrad called by Neuenmark , Berthold called Pfinzing Schultheiß in Nuremberg, Conrad called Stromaier , Wernher called Nützel , relatives (cognati) by Friedrich Holzschuher . Sealed by Friedrich Holzschuher alone, as his brother Herdegen does not have his own seal.
[Nuremberg Yearbooks Vol. 1-2, 1834, p.45,54]
• 1276 Lehensrevers of Nuremberg citizens Friedrich and Herdegen Holzschuher as bruggräfliche Burgmannen in Kraftshof. Witness, among others: Cunradus dictus de Novo Foro .
• 1309: Friedrich Holzschuher sells a house. Among the witnesses: Otto Muffel .
[Hirschmann, Muffel, MVGN 41 p.265, 283]
• 1278: Herr Herdegen von Grindelach sells the village Flechsdorf ... Witnesses: the knights and citizens in Nuremberg Hermann called Groß called by Stein , Friedrich Holzschuher , Sifrid called Ebener , Chunrad called Stromair , Marquard called Pfinzinc , Cunrad called Vorchtlin .
• mentioned in Nuremberg in 1282 (without details): Conrad von Neumarkt , Weigelin his brother, Friedrich called Holzschuher , Ulrich called Turbrech , Marquard called Pfinzing , and Heinrich Vorchtlin , brother of Conrad.
• 1291: Friedrich Holzschuher steps down a part of his garden on the Pegnitz, between the Vorchtelins garden and the Wigelins garden and tower. Among the witnesses: Sifrid Ebner , Herdegen Holzschuher , Chunrat Stromer ; consulted were also a "newable customers", namely the Leupolt Holzschuher and Chunrat the Ysenmann .
[Nuremberg Yearbooks Vol. 1-2, 1834, p.57 / 58.67,90]
• Friedrich Holzschuher , 1277-1300 (until 1314 Schöffe, until 1331), (son of Heinrich II), ∞ Jutta Graf .
[Scharr: citizen of Nuremberg in the 13th century, Gen.Jb.Bd.3 1963]
• First documented in 1277, together with his father (without first name) and his brother Herdegen as a witness.
→ A Urk. Of 1269 (Gatterer) belongs to the year 1296; Several documents from 1270 to 1297 mentioning him are fakes.
• 1284 (?): Sifrid Ebner , Heinrich Vorchtel , and the brothers Friedrich, Herdegen and Leupold Holzschuher with the consent of their wives (without names) commit themselves to the Würzburg Johanniter Hospital for the sake of their salvation for payments from the income from their vineyards near Würzburg.
• In 1291 he exchanges a lawn with his garden at the Pegnitz, which was used to build the city wall in 1321.
• 1300, 1309 Carer of St.Sebald.
• called in 1302 among the Zeidlers.
• First mentioned in 1303 together with his son Heinrich.
• 1303, 1314 Schöffe in Nuremberg.
• 1309 patron and spiritual co-brother (converse) of the monastery Ebrach, in which he enters in 1311 as a monastic brother with his own dwelling.
• 23.3.1318 he and his wife Jutta (nee Count) of son-in-law Sifrid Weigel, among others, buy the bailiwick of the court in Wolkersdorf and transfer it to the monastery Ebrach.
• 20.3.1339 died in Ebrach.
• 1303/1313: Ulrich Haller and Friedrich Holzschuher , both citizens of Nuremberg, receive 2 tithes in Ampferbach, which Windeck has renounced.
[Internet database 2013 Hochstift Würzburg, Lehenbuch 1303-1313]
[23.3.1318 see StadtA Nbg online]
→ Wives :
• Gatterer states that he was married to Jutta Stromer , daughter of Conrad Stromer "before the preachers" from his second marriage to (Elle) Varrenbacher . That can not be true in time.
• 1308 in the will of Conrad Graf : Friedrich Holzschuher with his wife Jutta, sister of Conrad Graf .
• March 23, 1918: Friedrich Holzschuher and his wife Jutta, in Nuremberg, have bought the bailiwick of the court in Wolkersdorf from their son-in-law Sifrid Weigel and transferred it to the monastery Ebrach.
[Adalbert Scharr: Friedrich I Holzschuher and his wife Jutta Graf. In: Bl.f.fränk.Fk. Vol. (1965) pp. 144-147.]
→ The marriage shown here with Jutta Graf does not exclude a previous marriage with Jutta Stromer ; The ancestor lists, which indicate Jutta Graf as the mother of the children of Friedrich Holzschuher, are probably wrong. Of course, Jutta Stromer can not be the daughter of Conrad Stromer "before the preachers", but at the most his sister, ie daughter of the older Conrad Stromer, who was married to an esler (HDL).
→ WvStromer [letter 1973] informs that the marriage mentioned in genealogies by Friedrich Holzschuher with Jutta Stromer could not be documented. However, a schipping Stromer-Holzschuher in the first half or mid-14th century. veryprobably, for two reasons: (1) Around this time Holzschuher's trading book enters the Stromer family archive, for which the reason is best seen in a corresponding marriage; (2) In the eastern choir of Nuremberg Sebaldskirche can be found in the window of the Stromeir to the Golden Rose at the couple, which kneels about midway above the arms, each a small coat of arms Stromeir and Holzschuher: the window is according to Kirchenfensterrestaurator Gottlieb Frenzel to about 1375-1380 date, so that a marriage Stromeir-Holzschuher must have existed before this time.
[FF8144]
• In 1296 the Bamberg bishop mortgages the Nurembergers Friedrich Holzschuher and Heinrich Vorchtel for the debts incurred by his church and tithes, including the Hofmarken Neunkirchen am Brand and Erlangen.
[W. Schultheiß: Money and Financial Transactions ... p.64]
Regesten zu Gerhaus Holzschuher:
→ In AL Rusam this Gerhaus Holzschuher is regarded as the sister of Heinrich and Seifried Holzschuher (* approx. 1275/80). Then Seifried Holzschuher in El. Weigel married his niece. - In principle, that would work, but it can hardly be old in age. In terms of age, she would have to be a daughter of Heinrich Holzschuher ∞ v.Gründlach. (HDL)
Regesten zu Irmel (Holzschuher):
• To the parents of Irmel Lemblin:
Herbert E. Lemmel ["Origins" p.32f footnote 73 and "Marriage circle" p.85 table 5] gives arguments that Irmel Lemblin is a born Holzschuher , namely a daughter of Friedrich Holzschuher and his wife (Jutta?) Stromer , daughter of Conrad Stromer and (Kunigunde?) Esler .
→ Although some of Helemmel's arguments are incorrect because of his erroneous identification of the Lampert and Lemlein families, there are good arguments in favor of the correctness of this assignment, which can not be considered "secured" (HEL) but likely (HDL). This is supported by a number of documents in which Lemlein and Holzschuher appear as witnesses for each other as well as the typical Holzschuher first names (Fritz, Saiz, Heinrich) of the Irmel sons. Comp. Hans-Dietrich Lemmel: Nuremberg Lemlein in the 14th century, Bl. F. German provincial 1984th
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