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- From Hans-Dietrich Lemmel:
Berthold Vorchtel - in Nuremberg
◆ Father: Conrad Vorchtel
◆ Born about 1245
◆ 1289 Schöffe
Daughter:
1. Els Vorchtel N718 , (* about? 1280)
∞ after 1305 with Ulrich Haller H103
(* about? 1260), † 16.7.1324, (death sign)
Mentioned in Nuremberg since 1293. 1297, 1314 councilman. In 1307 he buys the village Lauff. Financier and confidant of Emperor Ludwig of Bavaria and other princes. See Hall-21 / a
he ∞1) (about? 1285) with Anna Tockler N706
(* about? 1265)
ext. 1305
Regesten:
• 1289 Bertholt Forchtl in a jury:
• a letter from 1289: Kunigunda Turprechting , wife of Werner Gruntherr , bequeathed her estates to her brother's children (Berthold, Ulrich, Kunigund, Methild) that her husband had no power over it.
Issued by Schultheiß Marquart (certainly Pfinzing!) , Together with Heinrich Groß the parents, Werner Nuzel , Eberhardt Kessbasser , Berthold Forchtl , Cunrad Eßler , Weigel von Newenmarkt , Heinrich Groß the younger, Heinrich Holzschuher , as witnesses,
• Conrad Pfinzing , Berthold Turprecht , Werner Grundherr , Berthold Pfinzing Schultheiß and his father Conrad Pfinzing , Hermann vom Stein , Heinrich Staudigel , Leupold Staudigel .
[Internet 2013, Nuremberg Yearbooks vol. 1-2 p.83]
• Bertold Vorchtel, father of Els.
[A.Scharr: Gen.Jb. 3 1963 p.17]
→ I suspect that Berthold is a son of Conrad Vorchtel. (HDL)
• This or a younger one: Mintmaster Bertholt Vorchtel :
• 28.5.1330: Marquart sturgeon and his landlady Mrs. Jutta give their estate to Schweinau, where Conrad Friedel and his landlady Kunigund are sitting, to the Bamberg provost. Marquart sturgeon had previously bought the estate from the mint master Bertholt Vorchtel .
[CityA Nbg online]
→ This estate belongs to the 1341 Irmel Lemblinne .
Regesten zu Els Vorchtel:
• Her father: Heinrich Vorchtel in Nuremberg.
[Genealogy from all German regions]
→ According to Scharr, her father is Berthold Vorchtel .
• Elisabeth Vorchtel , parents: Bertold (? Heinrich) Vorchtel , † 1257 Nuremberg, ∞ Gertraud Roter .
[B.Aign: AL Zinn, Gen.Jahrbuch Vol.45 / 46 2008]
→ If Bertold died in 1257, he could not possibly be the father of Els (HDL).
Regesta to Anna Tockler:
[A. Scharr: Gen.Jb. 3 1963 p.17]
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