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- The map used for Heinrich Stromer is : Map from the 'Lorenzer Wald' near Nürnberg, Germany, as simple model for forest ecosystem management. By locating forest resources like hunting grounds, beehives, and mature forests ready for harvest this map from Paulus Pfinzing supported the multiple use paradigm in the 16th century (Hilf, 1938, pp. 184-185).
Oberster Forestmesister in Lorenzer Forest. Not mentioned in records, however, in 1293, the grandson is entrusted with the office, which already held "father and grandfather:.
From Lemmel
Heinrich Stromer N576 - Reichsforstmeister in Nuremberg
Father: Stro-19 / a Sebald Stromer H716
(* about? 1180)
Chief forestry master in Lorenzer forest. Not mentioned in records, however, in 1293 the grandson is entrusted with the office, which already held "father and grandfather".
Children:
1st Conrad, (* about? 1205/1210) - Reichsschultheiß in Nuremberg, see Stro-21 / w
2. (daughter), (* about? 1210) - ∞ v. Reichenbach, see Stro-21 / a
3. Heinrich Waldstromer Nh93 , (* about? 1210/1215)
4. Gramlieb Stromer N768 , (* about? 1215)
5. Else Stromer Hc18 , (* about? 1217)
∞ with Ulrich v.Laufenholz Hc19
(* about? 1210)
See Lfhz-21 / u
Regesten:
• Borrowed from the Forestry Office of the Lorenz Forest. Father of the brothers Conrad, Heinrich and Gramlieb Waldstromer , who in 1266 are leased to the forestry department of the Lorenzer Wald. In 1293 the grandson Conrad Waldstromer was granted the forestry office, which had already had "father and grandfather".
• A daughter of unknown first name, who was married to Conrad Stromer of Schwabach.
[Scharr: Waldstromer p.13]
• He himself is not certified. His first name Heinrich loud Biedermann. According to Biedermann, Heinrich's father, Sebald Reichs-Forstmeister, was already there.
• Son of Sebald Stromer : Heinrich Stromer , knight, 1223 "Reichs-Erb-Obrist forestry and Jägermeister" of the Lorenzer forest near Nuremberg.
• ∞ with Anna Countess of Dornberg , Tv Heinrich Count of Dornberg ∞ Reiza Burggräfin of Nuremberg.
• Heinrich "died without male heirs".
• His brother: Conrad Stromer , died 1266.
[Biedermann Tafel 545 Waldstromer]
→ Conrad is not his brother but his son!
• Heinrich Stromer , 1223 by Emperor Frederick II with the forestry master of the Reichswald near Nuremberg. [Ancestor lists from all German districts]
• The statement that he was a tournament champion in Nuremberg in 1197 is an invention.
• The document of 1223, in which the knight Heinrich Waldstromer and his brother Gramlieb were entrusted with the Forstmeisteramt, is a fake. Also a Sebald Stromer (according to Biedermann) can not be proven.
• Probably from a ministerial family. Unidentified father of the brothers Conrad, Heinrich and Gramlieb and a sister with an unknown first name, who is married to Conrad Stromer von Schwabach.
[See in detail Adalbert Scharr: The Nuremberg Reichsförsterfamilie Waldstromer ..., in: MVGN 52 (1963/64) p.1-41, see p.13]
• Older ancestor lists that state the following are incorrect.
Konrad Waldstromer, c. 1210
Heinrich Waldstromer, c. 1185 (omitted in some AL)
Sebald Waldstromer, c. 1150
As Sebald's children are given in Biedermann: Heinrich, Gramlieb, Conrad and a Gerhaus, † 1227, ∞ 1200 with Leopold Schürstab , Both Gerhaus and Schürstab are not documented (the first Schürstab certificate is, according to Scharr: Friedrich Schürstab 1299).
According to AL Rusam Heinrich Waldstromer is married to Anna v.Dornberg , whose other ancestors are indicated, but can not agree: For Konrad Waldstromer, for whom Rusam gives a year of birth around 1210, he gives Heinrich v.Dornberg as a grandfather, the "um / to have been born before 1200 ".
Regesta to Heinrich Waldstromer:
• 1266: Conrad Waldstromer , his brothers Heinrich and Gramlieb, and Conrad's heirs are entrusted with the forestry department of the Lorenzer Wald.
[Scharr: Waldstromer p.13]
Regesten zu Gramlieb Stromer:
• 1266: Conrad Waldstromer , his brothers Heinrich and Gramlieb, and Conrad's heirs are entrusted with the forestry department of the Lorenzer Wald.
[Scharr: Waldstromer p.13]
• Gramlieb Stromer "flourished in 1223 and died unmarried".
[Biedermann panel 545 Waldstromer] Here, however, given as the son of Sebald Stromer . - 1223 is a fake document.
Regesta to Else Stromer:
• Another sister (or daughter?) Of Conrad Waldstromer will have been Else Waldstromer , who is married to the knight Ulrich v.Lauffenholz on Oberbürg (1256-1273).
[Scharr: Forest Streamers p.15]
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