Stromer, Conrad von Reichenbach

Male Abt 1205 - UNKNOWN


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  • Name Stromer, Conrad  [1
    Suffix von Reichenbach 
    Birth Abt 1205  Germany Find all individuals with events at this location  [1
    Gender Male 
    Name Conrad Stromer 
    Residence 1267  Schwabach, Schwabach, Bayern, Germany Find all individuals with events at this location  [1
    Death UNKNOWN  Nürnberg, Nürnberg, Bayern, Germany Find all individuals with events at this location 
    Person ID I30322  The Thoma Family
    Last Modified 20 Sep 2023 

    Father Stromer, Gerhart von Reichenbach,   b. Abt 1170   d. DECEASED, Germany Find all individuals with events at this location 
    Relationship natural 
    Family ID F11511  Group Sheet  |  Family Chart

    Family Stromer, N.N.,   b. Abt 1210, Germany Find all individuals with events at this locationd. DECEASED, Germany Find all individuals with events at this location 
    Marriage Abt 1230  Germany Find all individuals with events at this location  [1
    Children 
     1. Stromer, Conrad von Reichenbach,   b. Abt 1230   d. Bef 20 Jul 1319, Nürnberg, Nürnberg, Bayern, Germany Find all individuals with events at this location (Age < 89 years)  [natural]
    Family ID F11509  Group Sheet  |  Family Chart
    Last Modified 20 Sep 2023 

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    Link to Google MapsResidence - 1267 - Schwabach, Schwabach, Bayern, Germany Link to Google Earth
    Link to Google MapsDeath - UNKNOWN - Nürnberg, Nürnberg, Bayern, Germany Link to Google Earth
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  • Notes 
    • Conrad von Reichenbach calls himself after his first wedding "Stromer".

      From Lemmel
      Conrad von Reichenbach gen. Stromer N579 - in Nuremberg and Schwabach
      Father: Stro-20 / aoo Gerhart v.Reichenbach N769

      (* about? 1205)

      Conrad von Reichenbach calls himself after his wedding " Stromer" (urk for the first time around 1242). 1267 in Schwabach. Citizen Nuremberg. 33 children from 3 marriages.

      ∞1) (about? 1230) with (daughter) Stromer N580

      (* about? 1210)

      See Stro-21 / a

      her father: Heinrich Stromer N576 , (* about? 1180)
      Oberster Forstmeister in Lorenzer forest. Not mentioned in records, however, in 1293 the grandson is entrusted with the office, which already held "father and grandfather". See Stro-20 / a

      ∞2) (about 1250) with (daughter) Tockler N849

      (* about? 1225)

      3 children from the marriage Stromer-Tockler. See Tokl-21 / m

      her father: Heinrich Togler / Tockler N226 , (* about? 1190)
      in Nuremberg, erw. 1254-1259 See Tokl-20 / n

      ∞3) (about? 1260) with Elisabeth (?) Hellbag N850

      (* about? 1240)

      15 children from the marriage Stromer-Hellbag.

      Children:
      from 1st marriage:
      1. Conrad Stromer, (* about? 1230) - alderman in Nuremberg, see Stro-22 / a

      2. Heinrich Stromeir N852 , (* about? 1240)
      1287-1312 Schöffe at the Schultheißengericht in Nuremberg. At the wine market. Marriage and children unknown.

      3. H. Stromair N819 , (* about? 1240)
      1305 vouch for H.Stromair and Chunr.Lembelin for the newcomer Fritz de Golnhofen . (Unclear if Heinrich or Hermann Stromair is meant.)

      4. Otto Stromeir N853 , (* about? 1240/1245)
      Only given by Ulman Stromer. No certificate known.

      5. Haynolt Stromeir N854 , (* approximately? 1245) Specified
      only by Ulman Stromer. No certificate known.

      6. Hermann Stromeir N855 , (* 1245/1250) in
      1311 together with his brother Conrad.

      unknown, from what marriage:
      7. Seitz Stromeir N856 , (* about? 1250)
      Seitz / Sifrit 1306-1320 as a witness. 1306 and 1313 together with his brother Wolfel.

      ∞ with .... Amman N858

      (* about? 1260)

      1314 sister of Breunlin, Heinrich and Sibot Amman. Sibot had been murdered by Heinrich de Luzenburch . See Amm-23 / s

      her father: Hermann Ammon Nn00 , (* about? 1230)
      1268 citizens in Nuremberg See Amm-22 / a

      8. Albrecht Stromeir N857 , (*? 1250/1255)
      Only mentioned by Ulman Stromer. No certificate known.

      from 3rd marriage:
      9. Wolfram Stromer, (* about? 1260) - in Nuremberg am Heumarkt, see Stro-22 / b

      10. (Gerhaus) Stromeir N860 , (* about? 1265), † 15.6.1328 in Nuremberg

      ∞ with Conrad Nützel N861

      (* about? 1260), † after 1341

      Documented 1286-1344. [Scharr: Forest Streamers p.34]

      his parents: Werner Nützel N862 , (* about? 1225), † 1293
      Schöffe in Nuremberg. See Ntzl-20 / w ; ∞ with Christina v.Kühedorf (?) N863 , (* about? 1230).

      Regesten:
      The other son of Gerharts von Reichenbach was called Conrad, who took in the city of Nuremberg for the marriage of Mr. Waldstromers, knight, sister and since he lived here with his brother-in-law, he left his name Reichenbach and they named him after his brother Stromer.
      [Ulman Stromer]

      Probably 1242: Stromer (without first name) in a document of the Teutonic Order in Nuremberg; he belongs to the citizens, so that it can not deal with his brother-in-law, the Reichsforstmeister Conrad Stromer.

      • Documented 1242-1274. Schöffe of the Schultheißengericht.

      • Mostly "Conrad Stromer", occasionally "Conrad Stromer von Schwabach", once "Conrad von Schwabach".

      • Married three times: from the Stromer marriage 15 children, from his second marriage to a Tockler 3 children, from his third marriage to a Hellbag 15 children again. [Ulman Stromer]
      [Scharr: Waldstrom MVGN 52 p.14, 15, 32]
      [cf. A. Scarlet: Gen.Jb. 3 1963]

      • 1258: Berthold, the mayor of Nuremberg, carries a meadow near Neuhof to the fief of Heinrich von Stein , Butigler in Nuremberg, and gives the meadow. Among the witnesses: Heinrich von Stein , Seibot Pfinzing , Albrecht Ebner , Conrad Stromeier , Conrad Forchtlin , Hermann Graf .

      • 1266: The loan of Conrad Stromair and his heirs with the forestry office near Nuremberg is confirmed, completed by the Count Palatine and Duke Ludwig.

      • 1267 Witness: "Conrad Stromair von Schwabach".

      • 1268 witnesses: Werner Grundherr , Conrad Rot , Ulrich Crumpsit , Conrad Stromair , Hermann Ammon , citizen of Nuremberg.
      [Nuremberg Yearbooks Vol. 1-2 p.34,39,43]

      • Conrad v.Reichenbach , adopted the surname Stromer to his first wife. ∞1) with Beatrix Waldstromer , Tv Mr. Conrad Waldstromer , Ritter, Kais. Council, Reichs-Forst- and Jägermeister, then Reichs-Schultheiß zu Nürnberg, ∞ with Beatrix Perg , 15 children from this marriage, but of which nothing is known; ∞2) with ... Dogglerin , 3 children of whom nothing is known; ∞3) with ... Hallwagin , 15 children.
      [Biedermann panel 458, here also the names of the children from a third marriage]

      → Biedermann's information on the first marriage is wrong, according to Scharr.

      Regesta to Heinrich Stromeir:
      [Scharr: Forest Streamers p.35]

      • 19./25.11.1290: Durinhart v.Beerbach sells his goods to Wetzendorf, Heinzendorf, Kezenhof etc. to Conrad and Adelhaid from the Neuer Markt ,

      • and entrusts Chunrad Stromeyr and Gramlieb Esler with two estates to Rückersdorf.

      • Witnesses: Chunrad the Eseler , Wolfel the Saxon , Chunrat the Stromeyr , Henry the Young Rose , Berchtold Pfinzing , Wolfel the Hennangel , Heinrich Stromeyr and others.
      [StA Nbg Rst.Nbg. St. Catherine Monastery Urk.1. - Online 2017]

      • Heinrich Stromer , 1296 in the Nuremberg Council, died unharmed.
      [Biedermann panel 545 Waldstromer] Here, however, given as the son of Conrad Stromer ∞ v . Perg .

      Regesten zu (Gerhaus) Stromeir:
      [Scratching]

      • Gerhaus Stromer , † 15.6.1328 Nuremberg, ∞ with Conrad Nützel , documented in 1291 and 1305.

      • Daughter of Conrad Stromer of Schwabach ∞ Els Hellwag .
      [B.Aign: AL Zinn, Gen.Jahrbuch Bd.45 / 46 2008] Here is the father of the Conrad an older Konrad Stromer stated, which is not correct. (HDL)

      Regesten zu Conrad Nützel:
      • 5.7.1341 Testament of the Nuremberg citizen Conrad Nützel .
      [CityA Nbg online]

      • his son: Conrad Nützel , † 1340, 1332 councilman Nuremberg, ∞ with Hildegard Staudigl , † 27.3.1342 Nuremberg.
      [B.Aign: AL Zinn, Gen.Jahrbuch Vol.45 / 46 2008]

      Regesten zu Christina v.Kühedorf (?):
      • Her father is allegedly the knight Ulrich Kudorfer, who is notarized 1283/1318.
      [B.Aign: AL Zinn, Gen.Jahrbuch Vol.45 / 46 2008]

      → That can not be true in time. (HDL)

  • Sources 
    1. [S1871] GERMANY: South German Families, Lemmel Archives.
      http://geneal.lemmel.at/StammtafelnSD.html