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- From Hans-Dietrich Lemmel:
Heinrich Ortlieb N250 - Schöffe in Nuremberg
Father: Ortl-20 / a ... Ortlieb N251
(* about? 1270), † after 1339
1312 Schöffe in Nuremberg.
∞ with Agnes Stromer N895
(* about? 1280)
her parents: Conrad Stromer N578 , (* about? 1230), † before 20.7.1319
1283-1313 erw. 1291 Schöffe in Nuremberg. In 1313 he buys a meadow near Hersbruck. See Stro-22 / a ( Er ∞2) (about? 1300) with Kunigunde / Anna v.Laufenholz N851 , (* about? 1280) ) ; ∞ (about? 1255) with (Sofie?) Esler N612 , (* about? 1235)
Your first name is not Kunigunde. 11 children ..
she ∞2) after 1343 with Götz Scheffein No95
(* about? 1285) in Eger
Immigrated from Eger to Nuremberg in 1313.
Children:
1. Katharina Ortlieb N786 , (* about? 1305), † after 1366
∞ after 1337 with Philipp Groß N774
(* about? 1290), † after 1355
Council Builder in Nuremberg. Caretaker of paths and footbridges. See Gros-23 / u
his parents: Heinz Groß N630 , (* about? 1250), † zw 1314/1317
In Nuremberg, documented 1276-1306. Death between 1314-1317. See Gros-22 / a ( Er ∞1) (about? 1273) with Sofie v. Vestenberg N631 , (* about? 1250), † about? 1286 ) ; ∞ (about? 1287) with Gisela Esler N629 , (* about? 1265), † after 1339
sister of the mayor Conrad Esler ..
he ∞1) (about? 1320) with Els Pfinzing N785
(* about? 1300), † 8.1.1337
Her parents are unknown.
2. Heinrich, (* about? 1310) -, see Ortl-23 / h
Regesten:
• Heinrich Ortlieb 12.9.1312 Schöffe in Nuremberg.
[A.Scharr: The ans. Citizen of Nuremberg, in: Gen.Jb. Vol.3 1963 p.14]
• 23.7.1339: Emperor Ludwig is sworn by many respected people that there was no court in Leinburg before. The list contains a number of "mannequins", then a long list of "humble mannen," which begins with: Berth. Pfintzing , Wolfel Strömayr , Albr. Ebner , Seytz Pfintzing , Heinr. Charity , Gramliebe Esler , Chunr. Stromayr , Lewpolt of Peunting , Chunr. and Hermann the Hübner von Winkelhard, ... and many others.
[StA Nbg Rst.Nbg., Kaiserl.Privilegien Urk.48. - Online 2017]
• Mrs. Agnes, Mr. Heinrich Ortliebs soul. Widow, had a forestry in Neunhof. This acquires 1344 Ullrich Haller .
[Friday Stadler: Neunhof p.130]
→ Agnes is a daughter of Konrad Stromer ∞ Kunigunde Esler . [different. AL]
• The younger Heinrich is probably his son (= assumption HDL)
Regesta to Agnes Stromer:
• Agnes Stromer , TV Conrad Stromer ∞ Kunigunde Esler , ∞ with Heinrich Ortlieb, he † 1343 ..
[geneage graphics 2015]
• 1350: Her and her husband Götz Scheffein from Eger donated a house to Charles IV, which her son sold to Ulman Stromer in 1368 .
[WvStromer: "Assembly" MVGN 52 p.58]
Regesto to Kunigunde / Anna v.Laufenholz:
• (Kunigunde) v.Laufenholz ∞ with Conrad Stromer , 4 children. She is the sister of Friedrich v.Laufenholz .
[Scharr: Forest Streamers p.35]
• Conrad Stromer ∞2) with Anna v.Laufenholz , 5 children. She is the daughter of Fritz v.Lauffenholz ∞ Anna Eßlerin .
[Biedermann panel 460B Stromer]
Regesten zu (Sofie?) Esler:
• Her first name is given in Biedermann with Kunigunde, which is the first name of Conrad Stromer's second wife.
[Scharr: Forest Streamers p.35]
• At [AL Pusch, DFA 27 1964] their parents are given: Konrad Esler ∞ Anna Pfinzing. - That's wrong for a generation. (HDL)
Regesten zu Götz Scheffein:
• Götz Scheffein immigrated from Eger to Nuremberg in 1313. In 1350 he is one of the main beneficiaries of the extermination of the Jews. Charles IV gives him and his wife Agnes two Jewish houses between Hauptmarkt and Obstmarkt.
[Stromer. The metropolis in the uprising against Charles IV, MVGN 65 1978 p. 67]
Regesta to Katharina Ortlieb:
• † after 1366 [Bullemer: Great]
Regesten zu Els Pfinzing:
• Elisabeth Pfinzing ∞ with Philipp Groß , Sv Heinrich Groß ∞ Ebner .
[Biedermann Plate 392, List of Pfinzing Persons Who Can not Be Arranged]
• Philipp Groß † 1356, ∞1) Els Pfinzing , † 1337 (without further details), many children born about 1320.
[Bullemer: Great]
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