Scheber, Michael

Male UNKNOWN - Bef 1606


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  • Name Scheber, Michael  [1
    Birth UNKNOWN  Hildburghausen, Hildburghausen, Thüringen, Germany Find all individuals with events at this location 
    Gender Male 
    Occupation Hackney driver or civil servant who rides for the city 
    Death Bef 21 Oct 1606  Hildburghausen, Hildburghausen, Thüringen, Germany Find all individuals with events at this location 
    Burial UNKNOWN  Hildburghausen, Hildburghausen, Thüringen, Germany Find all individuals with events at this location 
    Person ID I12549  The Thoma Family
    Last Modified 20 Sep 2023 

    Family Klipper, Margaretha,   b. UNKNOWN, Hildburghausen, Hildburghausen, Thüringen, Germany Find all individuals with events at this locationd. Bef 6 Mar 1636, Hildburghausen, Hildburghausen, Thüringen, Germany Find all individuals with events at this location 
    Marriage 1572  Hildburghausen, Hildburghausen, Thüringen, Germany Find all individuals with events at this location  [1
    Children 
     1. Scheber, Ursula,   b. UNKNOWN, Hildburghausen, Hildburghausen, Thüringen, Germany Find all individuals with events at this locationd. 2 Jan 1641, Hildburghausen, Hildburghausen, Thüringen, Germany Find all individuals with events at this location  [natural]
     2. Scheber, Caspar,   b. UNKNOWN, Hildburghausen, Hildburghausen, Thüringen, Germany Find all individuals with events at this locationd. Bef 5 Dec 1634, Hildburghausen, Hildburghausen, Thüringen, Germany Find all individuals with events at this location  [natural]
     3. Scheber, Anastasia,   b. UNKNOWN, Hildburghausen, Hildburghausen, Thüringen, Germany Find all individuals with events at this locationd. 2 Jan 1659, Hildburghausen, Hildburghausen, Thüringen, Germany Find all individuals with events at this location  [natural]
     4. Scheber, Helene,   b. UNKNOWN, Hildburghausen, Hildburghausen, Thüringen, Germany Find all individuals with events at this locationd. 1661, Hildburghausen, Hildburghausen, Thüringen, Germany Find all individuals with events at this location (Age ~ 4 years)  [natural]
    Family ID F3861  Group Sheet  |  Family Chart
    Last Modified 20 Sep 2023 

  • Event Map
    Link to Google MapsBirth - UNKNOWN - Hildburghausen, Hildburghausen, Thüringen, Germany Link to Google Earth
    Link to Google MapsMarriage - 1572 - Hildburghausen, Hildburghausen, Thüringen, Germany Link to Google Earth
    Link to Google MapsDeath - Bef 21 Oct 1606 - Hildburghausen, Hildburghausen, Thüringen, Germany Link to Google Earth
    Link to Google MapsBurial - UNKNOWN - Hildburghausen, Hildburghausen, Thüringen, Germany Link to Google Earth
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  • Documents
    THOMAE, Research Notes
    THOMAE, Research Notes

  • Notes 
    • In 1574 he was sued by the step sons from his first marriage to N. Naumann for 300 florins. Evidently this money was from the estate of his step-sons real father and Michael was supposedly to keep it for them until his step sons reached maturity. Evidently, he never gave them the money, so they sued him.

      Based on the marriage record of his daughter, Anastasia, he was evidently dead before her marriage.
      From Chip Kalb:
      By the way, when I got your reply, I was eyeballing Joel Seigler, Margaretha Klipper and Michael Scheber up and down that Klipper Genealogy.  I couldn’t find anything wrong with any of them until I got to that infamous item about “Ihme sein Schwager Herr Joël Siegler des Rhats alhier” in that verdammt will.  When I read it as “my brother-in-law Mr. Joël Siegler of the [ City ] Council of this place [ Hildburghausen ]”, I remembered that, like the English language, the German language is not carved in stone.  It is always changing with the times, and not just in the spelling.  As any etymological dictionary will show in any language, words do not always keep the same meanings.  What might make perfect sense to Martin Luther in 1516 would not make any sense to his descendants in 2016!

      So I looked up “Schwager” in Ernest Thode’s German-English Genealogical Dictionary.  Here is his definition : “brother-in-law ; father-in-law ; relative ; good friend.”   ( It was the same in Ye Olde English. ).  So, when Michael Klipper wrote his will in 1606, Joël Siegler was still his “good friend”, not his “brother-in-law”.  He didn’t become his brother-in-law for real until 1614, when he married Anastasia’s mother.

      So why was Anastasia described as a privigna of Joëlÿ Siegler?   If her father had ever left a will, it is not available online.  But, if he did make his will, we can assume that he took his real brother-in-law’s suggestion and made Mr Siegler the legal guardian of his children.  Even if he didn’t, there might be bonds of guardianship for his children.  So, when Anastasia’s marriage record called her the privigna of Joëlÿ Siegler, it meant that she was his ward, not his step-daughter.  That means that her father, Michael Scheber, was already dead by 1606.

  • Sources 
    1. [S24] GERMANY: THÜRINGIA: Schriften des Vereins fur Sachsen Meiningische Geschichte und Landeskunde 54th issue (1906).
      Google Books
      Issue 54, Hildburghausen, Saxe-Meiningen:
      F. W. Gadow & Sohn
      1906
      https://babel.hathitrust.org/cgi/pt?id=mdp.39015055036332;view=1up;seq=111
      Schriften des Vereins für Sachsen Meiningische Geschichte und Landeskunde 54th issue (1906)
      Schriften des Vereins für Sachsen Meiningische Geschichte und Landeskunde 54th issue (1906)
      Klipper Family Tree
      Klipper Family Tree