Scheber, Michael
UNKNOWN - Bef 1606-
Name Scheber, Michael [1] Birth UNKNOWN Hildburghausen, Hildburghausen, Thüringen, Germany Gender Male Occupation Hackney driver or civil servant who rides for the city Death Bef 21 Oct 1606 Hildburghausen, Hildburghausen, Thüringen, Germany Burial UNKNOWN Hildburghausen, Hildburghausen, Thüringen, Germany Person ID I12549 The Thoma Family Last Modified 20 Sep 2023
Family Klipper, Margaretha, b. UNKNOWN, Hildburghausen, Hildburghausen, Thüringen, Germany d. Bef 6 Mar 1636, Hildburghausen, Hildburghausen, Thüringen, Germany Marriage 1572 Hildburghausen, Hildburghausen, Thüringen, Germany [1] Children 1. Scheber, Ursula, b. UNKNOWN, Hildburghausen, Hildburghausen, Thüringen, Germany d. 2 Jan 1641, Hildburghausen, Hildburghausen, Thüringen, Germany [natural] 2. Scheber, Caspar, b. UNKNOWN, Hildburghausen, Hildburghausen, Thüringen, Germany d. Bef 5 Dec 1634, Hildburghausen, Hildburghausen, Thüringen, Germany [natural] 3. Scheber, Anastasia, b. UNKNOWN, Hildburghausen, Hildburghausen, Thüringen, Germany d. 2 Jan 1659, Hildburghausen, Hildburghausen, Thüringen, Germany [natural] 4. Scheber, Helene, b. UNKNOWN, Hildburghausen, Hildburghausen, Thüringen, Germany d. 1661, Hildburghausen, Hildburghausen, Thüringen, Germany (Age ~ 4 years) [natural] Family ID F3861 Group Sheet | Family Chart Last Modified 20 Sep 2023
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Event Map = Link to Google Earth
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Documents THOMAE, Research Notes
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Notes - In 1574 he was sued by the step sons from his first marriage to N. Naumann for 300 florins. Evidently this money was from the estate of his step-sons real father and Michael was supposedly to keep it for them until his step sons reached maturity. Evidently, he never gave them the money, so they sued him.
Based on the marriage record of his daughter, Anastasia, he was evidently dead before her marriage.
From Chip Kalb:
By the way, when I got your reply, I was eyeballing Joel Seigler, Margaretha Klipper and Michael Scheber up and down that Klipper Genealogy. I couldn’t find anything wrong with any of them until I got to that infamous item about “Ihme sein Schwager Herr Joël Siegler des Rhats alhier” in that verdammt will. When I read it as “my brother-in-law Mr. Joël Siegler of the [ City ] Council of this place [ Hildburghausen ]”, I remembered that, like the English language, the German language is not carved in stone. It is always changing with the times, and not just in the spelling. As any etymological dictionary will show in any language, words do not always keep the same meanings. What might make perfect sense to Martin Luther in 1516 would not make any sense to his descendants in 2016!
So I looked up “Schwager” in Ernest Thode’s German-English Genealogical Dictionary. Here is his definition : “brother-in-law ; father-in-law ; relative ; good friend.” ( It was the same in Ye Olde English. ). So, when Michael Klipper wrote his will in 1606, Joël Siegler was still his “good friend”, not his “brother-in-law”. He didn’t become his brother-in-law for real until 1614, when he married Anastasia’s mother.
So why was Anastasia described as a privigna of Joëlÿ Siegler? If her father had ever left a will, it is not available online. But, if he did make his will, we can assume that he took his real brother-in-law’s suggestion and made Mr Siegler the legal guardian of his children. Even if he didn’t, there might be bonds of guardianship for his children. So, when Anastasia’s marriage record called her the privigna of Joëlÿ Siegler, it meant that she was his ward, not his step-daughter. That means that her father, Michael Scheber, was already dead by 1606.
- In 1574 he was sued by the step sons from his first marriage to N. Naumann for 300 florins. Evidently this money was from the estate of his step-sons real father and Michael was supposedly to keep it for them until his step sons reached maturity. Evidently, he never gave them the money, so they sued him.
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Sources - [S24] GERMANY: THÜRINGIA: Schriften des Vereins fur Sachsen Meiningische Geschichte und Landeskunde 54th issue (1906).
Google Books
Issue 54, Hildburghausen, Saxe-Meiningen:
F. W. Gadow & Sohn
1906
https://babel.hathitrust.org/cgi/pt?id=mdp.39015055036332;view=1up;seq=111Schriften des Vereins für Sachsen Meiningische Geschichte und Landeskunde 54th issue (1906) Klipper Family Tree
- [S24] GERMANY: THÜRINGIA: Schriften des Vereins fur Sachsen Meiningische Geschichte und Landeskunde 54th issue (1906).