Other Events and Attributes:

• Appointments / Titles: Vermandois (Historical), Picardie, France; Count of Vermandois
• FSID: KT4G-S84

Notes:

The name of Herbert's wife is UNKNOWN!
THERE IS NO BERTHA DE MORVOIS!

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-- https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/nfravalver.htm#_Toc521223333 --
-- https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/nfravalver.htm#_Toc521223334 --
"THE NAME OF THE WIFE of Comte Héribert is NOT KNOWN. However, a 'Comtesse Liedgardis', different from the daughter of Comte Héribert II, is named who could have been his wife."

-- https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bertha_von_Morvois --

"Seit den Untersuchungen von René Louis (1946), Daniel Misonne (1967) und Alain Dierkens (1985) wird die Chronik der Abtei Waulsort jedoch als Fantasiegebilde angesehen, insbesondere, was die genannte Genealogie angeht. Davon betroffen ist dann nicht nur die Ehe Berthas mit Heribert von Vermandois, sondern die Existenz Berthas überhaupt."

Google transaltion:

"However, since the studies by René Louis (1946), Daniel Misonne (1967) and Alain Dierkens (1985), the chronicle of Waulsort Abbey has been seen as A FIGMENT OF IMAGINATION, especially with regard to the genealogical table as constructed. This affects not only Bertha's marriage to Heribert von Vermandois, BUT BERTHA'S EXISTENCE IN GENERAL."

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“Royal Ancestry: A Study in Colonial & Medieval Families,” Douglas Richardson (2013):
“HERIBERT I, Count of Vermandois, with Saint-Quentin and Peronne, and lay abbot of Saint-Quentin, c.896-900/906, Count of Soissons and lay-abbot of Saint-Crepin, before 898-900/906, born about 850. HE MARRIED AN UNIDENTIFIED WIFE. They had one son, Heribert II [Count of Meaux, Soissons, and Vermandois] and one daughter, ___ (wife of Udo, Count of the Wetterau). In 896 he killed Raoul, brother of count Baudoin II. HERIBERT I, Count of Vermandois, was murdered 11 June, between 900 and 6 Nov. 907.
Barthelemy Cartulaire de l’Abbaye de Bucilly (1881): 109. Halphen & Poupardin Chroniques des Comtes d'Anjou et des Seigneurs D’Amboise (1913): 247-250 (Genealogiæ Comitum Andegavensium). Brandenburg Die Nachkommen Karls des Großen (1935) V.3. Schwennicke Europäische Stammtafeln 3(1) (1984): 49 (sub Vermandois). Winter Descs. of Charlemagne (800-1400) (1987): V.3, VI.3-VI.5. Settipani & von Kerrebrouck La Préhistoire des Capetians (1993). Schwager Graf Heribert ll (1994). Tanner Fams., Friends., & Allies (2004): 308 (Vermandois ped.).”

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Research by Friedrich R Wollmershhauser given to Sheldon Wimmer - HERIBERT I. VERMANDOIS, g.ca. 850,  06.11.907. From the Karolinger House, his father Pippin was a grandson of King Bernhard of Italy. Heribert, which is detectable in the sources from 877, was 886/898 Count of Soissons And Lay abbot From Monastery of St. Crispinus In Soissons, 888/889 Count of Meaux And MadrieAnd during this time was together with the Archbishop Fulco Of Reims, one of the leaders of the aristocratic opposition against the new king Odo of Paris, the 888 – 898 the first Robertiner On the French Throne was. On 28 January 893, the anniversary of Charlemagne of the Great Death, crowned Heribert and Fulco Charles the Einfumby, the son Louis the Stammler To the Counter-King, a measure that only succeeded after Odo's death in 898, partly because Odo gradually The party supporters of Charles moved to his side, including finally Heribert, to whom he was the important county in 896 Vermandois Handed. Heribert, after acquiring the Vermandois, expanded his power into the Champagne Without being held accountable by the king. On June 28, 896, he killed the Count during clashes over Vermandois. Rodulfus From the House of Flanders Killed. Like Fulco von Reims, Heribert was commissioned by the Count on 6 November. Baldwin II. Of Flanders, an older brother of Rodulfus, murdered. HERIBERT'S WIFE IS UNKNOWN.

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Family/Spouse: Unknown. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

1. de Vermandois, Hérbert II was born in 880 in Vermandois (Historical), Picardie, France; died on 23 Feb 943 in Saint-Quentin, Aisne, Picardie, France.

Other Events and Attributes:

• Appointments / Titles: Duke of Brittany
• FSID: LCZN-T6T
• Life Event: 22 Aug 851, Battle of Jengland, Fougeray, Ille-et-Vilaine, Bretagne, France; Frankish army of Charles the Bald.

Notes:

After the death of his father Nominoe, he led a successful military campaign against the Franks, culminating in his victory at the Battle of Jengland. He is subsequently referred to as "King of Brittany."

-- Wikiwand: Erispoe

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Pepin Seigneur de Senlis, de Peronne & de Saint-Quentin, II
French: Pépin comte de Péronne, Comte, seigneur de Peronne et Saint Quentin
Also Known As: "Pépin II", "seigneur de Péronne", "Lord of Senlis", "Péronne", "and Saint Quentin", "Pepin Quentin count of Senlis and lord of Valois", "Pepin II Quentin of Peronne de Valois Count of Vermandois", "Count Berenger of Bretagne Count of Bayeux", "Count of Vermandois; Lo..."
Birthdate: circa 817
Birthplace: Vermandois, Picardy, France
Death: circa 848 (22-39)
Milan, Milano, Lombardia, Italy
Place of Burial: Milan, Lombardy, Italy
Immediate Family:
Son of Bernard, King of Lombardy and Cunigundis
Husband of N.N. du Vexin

Father of
Pepin Bérenger de Senlis, comte de Bayeux;
Héribert I de Vermandois, comte de Vermandois, Senlis, Péronne;
Bernard I, count of Senlis; daughter of Pépin and
Cunegundes de Vermandois

Occupation: Count in the Region of Paris, Seigneur de Senlis, Seigneur de Péronne, Seigneur de Saint-Quentin, Lay Abbot 840, Compte de Peronnes et Senlis duc de Vermandois, roi d Italie, count of Vermandois, lord of Senlis, Péronne, and Saint Quentin, Count

Other Events and Attributes:

• House: House of Carolingian
• FSID: K81B-Y4V
• Appointments / Titles: Between 810 and 818; King of Italy

Notes:

King of the Lombards of the Carolingian Dynasty (King of Italy) 810 to 818. Bernard was the illegitimate son of King Pepin of Italy, also known as Carloman. Bernard married a Cunigunde and had one son, Pepin, the Count of Vermandois. When his father died in 810, his grandfather, Charlemagne, allowed Bernard to inherit his father's kingdom despite the fact Bernard was illegitimate, as was his father. Bernard then became a trusted agent of both his grandfather and his uncle, Louis the Pious, King of Aquitaine and King of the Franks. Empress Ermengarde, the wife of Louis, wanted Bernard to be displaced in favor of her own sons, causing her husband to draw up the Ordinatio Imperii, a detail the future of the Frankish Empire where Bernard's position in Italy was confirmed but he would be a vassal to Lothair, Louis's eldest son. Bernard gathered many allies including Louis's own brothers in a plot to rebel against Lothair and Louis, who discovered the plot, taking Bernard by surprise in Chalon. He was then taken to Aix-la-Chapelle (Aachen, Germany) and condemned to death. Louis commuted the sentence to blinding, such a traumatic event that Bernard died two days later. Louis's half brothers Drago, Hugh and Theoderic were confined to monasteries, the remaining co-conspirators were treated severely, losing all properties, rights or their lives. Bernard's kingdom of Italy was absorbed into the Frankish Kingdom and given to Lothair. In the following years, Louis would confess to Bernard's murder in a public display of penance. It is believed that Bernard was beloved by his people and Louis's sentence upon Bernard created an upheaval in Italy. His penance was "a well-judged gesture to restore harmony and re-establish his authority."
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Bernhard married de Gellone, Cunegonde in 818. Cunegonde (daughter of de Gellone, Heribert) was born in 800 in Kingdom of the Franks; died on 15 Jun 835 in Milan, Milano, Lombardia, Italy; was buried after 15 Jun 835 in Basilica of Sant'Ambrogio, Milan, Milano, Lombardia, Italy. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

Other Events and Attributes:

• FSID: LDW5-PC5

Notes:

Around 818, Bernard of Italy married a certain Cunégonde. The parentage of the latter is not known, but her name has been linked to Cunégonde, the wife of Guillaume de Gellone, and mother of a Heribert, a first name which then appears in the descendants of Bernard. Chronologically, Bernard's wife would rather be the daughter of Héribert and granddaughter of Guillaume de Gellone and Cunégonde.

Other Events and Attributes:

• FSID: L8PY-4HG
• Life Event: Between 781 and 810; King of Lombardy & Italy
• Appointments / Titles: 15 Apr 781; King of Italy
• Appointments / Titles: 25 Dec 800; Crowned King of the Franks at Rome

Notes:

Pippin König von Italien
Children ( Mistress or wife? )

1. BERNARD ([797]-Milan 17 Aug 818, bur Milan, San Ambrosio). Thegan's Vita Hludowici Imperatoris names "Bernhardus filius Pippini ex concubina"[627]. He was confirmed 11 Sep 813 at Aix-la-Chapelle as BERNARD I King of Italy.

Einhard, who names these daughters, makes no mention of whether they were legitimate or not. If they were illegitimate, it is not known whether they were full sisters of Bernard.

2. ADELAIS ([798]-after 810). "Adailhaidem, Atulam, Guntradam, Berthaidem ac Theoderadam" a

3.ADULA ([800/810]-after 810).

4. GUNTRADA ([800/810]-after 810).

5. BERTAIDE ([800/810]-after 810).

6.THEODRADA ([800/810]-after 810). "

http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/ITALY,%20Kings%20to%20962.htm#PepinIItalyB

Pépin d'Italie1, né en 777, mort à Milan le 8 juillet 810, est un des fils de Charlemagne, roi d'Italie de 781 à 810.

Il est le troisième fils de Charlemagne et le second d'Hildegarde de Vintzgau. Il est baptisé par le pape Adrien Ier avec le prénom de Carloman.

En 781, Charlemagne, roi des Lombards (rex Langobardorum) depuis 774, décide de faire de Carloman un « roi d'Italie » et de Louis, né en 778, un « roi d'Aquitaine ». Tous deux sont couronnés par le pape à Rome le 15 avril 781. C'est à cette occasion que Charlemagne décide de donner à Carloman le nom de Pépin ; dans la nomenclature, il est appelé Pépin Ier d'Italie, Charlemagne conservant le titre de roi des Lombards.

En raison de son jeune âge, Carloman est placé sous la tutelle d'Adalhard, abbé de Corbie, cousin de Charlemagne ; par la suite, ses tuteurs seront Waldo de Reichenau et Rotchild2.

En 787, bien qu'âgé de 10 ans, Pépin participe à une campagne militaire contre le duc Tassilon de Bavière. Charlemagne mêne lui-même une petite armée sur Augsbourg et débouche en Alémanie. Une autre vient du nord, composée d’Austrasiens, Saxons et Thuringiens. Pépin monte par la vallée de l'Adige à la tête d’une troisième armée. Menacé par des forces supérieures, Tassilon se rend sans combattre.

En 793, Pépin d'Italie mène une campagne contre le duc de Bénévent Grimoald, petit-fils du dernier roi lombard, Didier, qui refuse de se soumettre à son autorité.

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Translated:

Pepin of Italy

Pepin of Italy1, born in 777, died in Milan on July 8, 810, was one of the sons of Charlemagne, king of Italy from 781 to 810.

He was the third son of Charlemagne and the second of Hildegard of Vintzgau. He was baptized by Pope Adrian I with the name Carloman.

In 781, Charlemagne, king of the Lombards (rex Langobardorum) since 774, decided to make Carloman a "king of Italy" and Louis, born in 778, a "king of Aquitaine. Both were crowned by the pope in Rome on April 15, 781, at which time Charlemagne decided to give Carloman the name of Pepin; in the nomenclature, he was called Pepin I of Italy, with Charlemagne retaining the title of king of the Lombards.

Because of his young age, Carloman was placed under the guardianship of Adalhard, abbot of Corbie, cousin of Charlemagne; later, his guardians would be Waldo of Reichenau and Rotchild2.

In 787, although he was ten years old, Pepin took part in a military campaign against Duke Tassilon of Bavaria. Charlemagne himself led a small army to Augsburg and into Alemania. Another army came from the north, composed of Austrasians, Saxons and Thuringians. Pepin went up through the Adige valley at the head of a third army. Threatened by superior forces, Tassilon surrendered without fighting.

In 793, Pepin of Italy led a campaign against the duke of Benevento Grimoald, grandson of the last Lombard king, Didier, who refused to submit to his authority.

https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/P%C3%A9pin_d%27Italie

Other Events and Attributes:

• Appointments / Titles: Count of Vivarais
• FSID: 949D-L4R