verch Cadell, Queen Nest

Female 770 - 825  (55 years)


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  1. 1.  verch Cadell, Queen Nest was born in 770 in Montgomery, Montgomeryshire, Wales; was christened in 770 (daughter of ap Brochfael, King Cadell and N.N., N.N.); died in 825 in Anglesey, Wales; was buried in 825 in Wales.

    Other Events and Attributes:

    • FSID: LDQ1-T9Y

    Notes:

    Nest ferch Cadell was the daughter of Cadell ap Brochfael, an 8th-century King of Powys, the wife of Merfyn Frych, King of Gwynedd.

    On the death of her brother Cyngen ap Cadell in 855, authority over the Kingdom of Powys was claimed by Rhodri the Great, who had previously inherited the Kingdom of Gwynedd on the death of his father in 844. Rhodri thus united the Kingdoms of Powys and Gwynedd. Traditionally, Nest was claimed to be Rhodri's mother, hence his claim to Powys would have been matrilineal.

    However, it is unclear why the inheritance of Powys would have passed through Nest to her son, and not to one of the sons of Cyngen: Elisedd ap Cyngen, Ieuaf ap Cyngen, Aeddan ap Cyngen, and Gruffudd ap Cyngen. The texts of Welsh laws which survive to us were written down no earlier than the 12th century, but they provide no evidence that women were capable of transmitting legal title of kingship or lordship.

    Equally, although Rhodri's pedigree in a manuscript in Jesus College Oxford[1] states Nest as his mother, another pedigree in a fourteenth-century manuscript[2] in the National Library of Wales records his mother as Essyllt ferch Cynan. There are no strong grounds to accept either manuscript as reliable, but it is reasonable to believe that the royal house of Gwynedd promoted the view that the Kingdom of Powys had passed to Rhodri the Great through his mother in order to legitimise their control over it.[3] Either way, this possible genealogical manipulation became part of the accepted story of the unification of the two kingdoms.

    Most now take Nest ferch Cadell to be the Nest who was married to Gwerstan son of Gwaithfoed, whose Grandson Bleddyn founded Powys' ruling House of Mathrafal. Rhodri's mother is instead taken to be Essylt daughter of Cynan Dindaethwy, last King of the House of Cunedda; it follows that Essylt was not Merfyn's mother, but his wife. Consequently those taking this view conclude that Nest's alleged marriage to Merfyn (or Rhodri) was merely a rumour spread and recorded by supporters of Gwynedd to demean the Kings of Powys, and to claim lordship over them. The House of Gwynedd's Kingship is recorded being passed jure uxoris through Essylt to her husband Merfyn, and thence distaff (ie. by the female line) to their son Rhodri on Merfyn's death, the same going for Rhodri's wife Angharad, the daughter of Meurig King of Seisyllwg when her brother Gwgon drowned without an heir, allowing Rhodri to rule Seisyllwg jure uxoris, and his son Cadell to inherit it matrilinearly.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nest_ferch_Cadell

    Family/Spouse: ap Gwriad, King Merfyn Frych. Merfyn (son of ap Elidyr, King Gwriad Manaw and verch Cynan, Esyllt) was born in 790 in Gwynedd, Wales; died in 843 in Wales; was buried in 843 in Wales. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

    Children:
    1. ap Merfyn, King Rhodri Mawr was born in 820 in Caer Seiont, Carnarvon, Caernarvonshire, Wales; died in 878 in Anglesey, Wales; was buried in 878 in Isle of Anglesey, Wales.

Generation: 2

  1. 2.  ap Brochfael, King Cadell was born in 730 in Deheubarth, Wales (son of ap Elisedd, King Brochwel Ysgythrog and verch Pabo, Queen Arddyn Benasgel); died in 808 in Deheubarth, Wales.

    Other Events and Attributes:

    • Appointments / Titles: King of Ceredigion
    • Appointments / Titles: King of Powys
    • FSID: LD3L-7ZN

    Notes:

    BIO: from http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/WALES.htm#TewdrMawrA
    CADELL ap Brochwell (-[804/08]). The Gwentian Chronicle names "Cadell of Derrnllwg, son of Brochwel Ysgithrog" when recording his daughter´s marriage[591]. King of Powys. The Chronicle of the Princes of Wales records the death in 808 of "Cadell king of Powys"[592]. The Gwentian Chronicle records that "Arthen king of the Ceredigiawn, Rhydderch king of Dyved, and Cadell king of Teyrnllwg now called Powys" died in 804[593]. m ---. The name of Cadell´s wife is not known. Cadell & his wife had two children...

    ** from British Kings and Queens (Mike Ashley) p 155
    Cadell ap Brochfael Powys, ? - 808.
    Ruler of Powys during the oppressive reign of the Mercian Cenwulf. Cadell died before Cenwulf's main drive into Wales, and he may have benefitted from the comparative peace that followed the construction of Offa's Dyke. However, in the last year of Offa's reign, the Mercian penetrated into Rhuddlan, and this was a signal of the fragile relationship that would exist between Welch and Mercians for the next thirty years.

    Cadell ap Brochfael (English: Cadell, son of Brochfael; died c. 808), also known as Cadell Powys, was an 8th- and 9th-century king of Powys.

    He was the son of Brochfael ap Elisedd, whom he succeeded to the throne c. 773.

    The Annals of Wales mention his death, and Phillimore's reconstruction dates the entry to AD 808. His name also was inscribed (as "Cattell") in the Pillar of Eliseg.

    Children:
    1.) Nest ferch Cadell, b. Abt 770, of Powys gwlad, Wales, d. 842 (Age ~ 72 years)

    2.) Cyngen ap Cadell, Brenin of Teyrnllwg, b. Abt 770, of Powys gwlad, Wales (Age ~ 85 years)

    Cadell married N.N., N.N.. N.N. was born in 750 in Wales; died in 771 in Wales. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]


  2. 3.  N.N., N.N. was born in 750 in Wales; died in 771 in Wales.

    Other Events and Attributes:

    • FSID: L13Z-GRD

    Children:
    1. 1. verch Cadell, Queen Nest was born in 770 in Montgomery, Montgomeryshire, Wales; was christened in 770; died in 825 in Anglesey, Wales; was buried in 825 in Wales.


Generation: 3

  1. 4.  ap Elisedd, King Brochwel Ysgythrog was born in 692 in Wales (son of ap Gwylog, King Elisedd); died in 773 in Wales.

    Other Events and Attributes:

    • FSID: LD3L-7RM

    Notes:

    BIO: from British Kings and Queens (Mike Ashley) p 155
    Broachfael ap Elisedd Powys, fl 760s
    The son of Elisedd, little is known of his reign, except hat it would have paralled that of Mercia's greatest king, Offa. Whatever lands Elisedd had gained in the first half of the century, Brochfael probably lost in the second half. Offa undertook many raids into Wales during his reign, some as far west as Dyfed, and Powys was little more than a doorstep to his mighty army. Although the dates of Brochfael's reign are not known, it is possible he reigned for a considerable period. It was during his reign that Offa's Dyke was constructed, a remarkable feat of engineering which must have taken many men many years. It is a sign of Offa's power that it could be achieved at all, and it is probable that it was the men of Powys and of Glywysing who were pressed into service to complete the work. It served as much as a line of demarkation as a defence, and as such shows that Offfa effectively agreed a border between the Welsh and the English would help sustain peace. Brochfael would therefore have benefitted from the Dyke in the short term, though in the long term it spelled the end for Powys. Brochfael was succeeded by his son Cadell.

    Gender:Male
    Birth:circa 715
    Ysgithrog,Brenin,Powys, Wales
    Death:773 (54-62)
    Wales
    Immediate Family:
    Son of Elisedd Ap ap Gwylog
    Husband of N.N. Pabo
    Father of Cadell, King of Powys and Cyngen ap Brochwel
    Brother of St. Enghenedl ab Elisedd and Cyngen ab Elisedd
    Added by:Jon Brees Thogmartin FTDNA Mcclendon on January 2, 2008
    Managed by:Ofir Friedman and 44 others
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    Birth: Circa 715 - Place
    Death: 773 - Place
    Parents: Names of both parents
    Siblings: Enghenedd Verch Elisedd and name of one more sister
    Wife: Name of wife
    Children: Cadell Ap Brochwel and name of one more son

    Brochwel married verch Pabo, Queen Arddyn Benasgel. Arddyn was born in 710 in Powys, Wales; died in 746 in Wales. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]


  2. 5.  verch Pabo, Queen Arddyn Benasgel was born in 710 in Powys, Wales; died in 746 in Wales.

    Other Events and Attributes:

    • Appointments / Titles: Saint
    • FSID: LWFG-LYH

    Notes:

    Arddyn de Penniines and also known as The Wing Headed

    Children:
    1. 2. ap Brochfael, King Cadell was born in 730 in Deheubarth, Wales; died in 808 in Deheubarth, Wales.


Generation: 4

  1. 8.  ap Gwylog, King Elisedd was born in 685 in Ceredigion, Wales; was christened in Powys, Wales (son of ap Beli, King Gwylog and verch Nowy, Sanan); died in 755 in Powys, Wales; was buried in 755 in Llangollen, Denbighshire, Wales.

    Other Events and Attributes:

    • Appointments / Titles: Powys, Wales; King
    • FSID: LD3L-WWN

    Notes:

    Elisedd, King of Powys
    (c.695-773)
    (Latin: Elisetus; English: Ellis)
    Elisedd is best known for his memorial stone: Eliseg's Pillar standing in Llantysilio-yn-Ial in Northern Powys. It was once topped by an enormous cross, and was erected by his great grandson, King Cyngen, some one hundred years after Elisedd's ascendancy in the early 8th century. Its inscription praises his victories against the Saxons and includes an exceptional record of the Powysian pedigree, stretching back through his father King Gwylog ap Beli's line to Vortigern and Magnus Maximus. Elisedd lived at nearby Castell Dinas-Bran, which is also associated with the Celtic ancestor god, Bran, and King Arthur's Quest for the Holy Grail.

    EBK: King Elisedd of Powys. (2017). Earlybritishkingdoms.com. Retrieved 30 May 2017, from http://www.earlybritishkingdoms.com/bios/elisepw.html

    BIO: from British Kings and Queens (Mike Ashsley) p 155
    Elisedd (or Eliseg) Powys, 725-?
    Elisedd was remembered by his great grandson, Cyngen ap Cadell, a century later, for having rebuilt Powys and recovered lands from the English. He erected a stone column, now known as "Eliseg's Pillar" which commemorated his descent, tracing it all the way back to Vortigern. The genealogy provides us with some dating problems, but we must assume that Elisedd lived sometime in the early/mid eighth century. This coincides with the reign of the Mercian king Athelbald, a turbulent period where the Mercians generally had the upper hand but where some victories went to the underdogs. We can image the Elisedd succeeded in regaining lands along the Welsh/Mercian border from this powerful king, which made his victories all the more significant. It is possible the Elisedd ruled (or was active as a battle leader) earlier, because there are Welsh border incidents recorded during the reign of the Merican king Cenred, around the year 708. The fact that the Pillar was erected at Llangollen, well inside the later Welsh border, shows that these territorial gains were not permanent.

    ** from Wikipedia listing for Elisedd ap Gwylog
    Elisedd ap Gwylog (died c. 755), also known as Elise, was king of Powys in eastern Wales.

    Little has been preserved in the historical records about Elisedd, who was a descendant of Brochwel Ysgithrog. He appears to have reclaimed the territory of Powys after it had been overrun by the English. His great-grandson, Cyngen ap Cadell erected a column in his memory which stands not far from the later abbey of Valle Crucis. This is known as the Pillar of Eliseg, but the form Eliseg which appears on the column is thought to be a mistake by the carver of the inscription.

    The Latin inscription on the pillar is now very hard to read, but was apparently clearer in the time of Edward Lhuyd who transcribed it. The translation of the part of the inscription referring to Elisedd is as follows:

    + Concenn son of Catell, Catell son of Brochmail, Brochmail son of Eliseg, Eliseg son of Guoillauc.
    + And that Concenn, great-grandson of Eliseg, erected this stone for his great-grandfather Eliseg.
    + The same Eliseg, who joined together the inheritance of Powys . . . out of the power of the Angles with his sword and with fire.
    + Whosoever repeats the writing, let him give a blessing on the soul of Eliseg.

    Some old poems refer to Elisedd and assert he had a "special crown, a chain of twisted gold links, and armlets and anklets of gold which were the badges of sovereignty of Powys".[1] These artifacts have disappeared from history but perhaps resurfaced briefly during the coronation of Owain Glyndŵr in 1400.

    Elisedd was succeeded by his son Brochfael.

    References
    ^ Pre Welsh History

    John Edward Lloyd (1911) A history of Wales from the earliest times to the Edwardian conquest (Longmans, Green & Co.)

    ** from Wikipedia listing for Pillar of Eliseg
    The Pillar of Eliseg also known as Elise's Pillar or Croes Elisedd in Welsh, stands near Valle Crucis Abbey, Denbighshire, Wales, at grid reference SJ204442. It was erected by Cyngen ap Cadell (died 855), king of Powys in honour of his great-grandfather Elisedd ap Gwylog. The form Eliseg found on the pillar is thought to be a mistake by the carver of the inscription.

    The Latin inscription not only mentions several individuals described in the Historia Britonum, but also complements the information presented in that text. A generally accepted translation of this inscription, one of the longest surviving inscriptions from pre-Viking Wales, is as follows:

    † Concenn son of Cattell, Cattell son of Brochmail, Brochmail son of Eliseg, Eliseg son of Guoillauc.
    † And that Concenn, great-grandson of Eliseg, erected this stone for his great-grandfather Eliseg.
    † The same Eliseg, who joined together the inheritance of Powys . . . throughout nine (years?) out of the power of the Angles with his sword and with fire.
    † Whosoever shall read this hand-inscribed stone, let him give a blessing on the soul of Eliseg.
    † This is that Concenn who captured with his hand eleven hundred acres [4.5 km²] which used to belong to his kingdom of Powys . . . and which . . . . . . the mountain

    [the column is broken here. One line, possibly more, lost]

    . . . the monarchy . . . Maximus . . . of Britain . . . Concenn, Pascent, Maun, Annan.
    † Britu son of Vortigern, whom Germanus blessed, and whom Sevira bore to him, daughter of Maximus the king, who killed the king of the Romans.
    † Conmarch painted this writing at the request of king Concenn.
    † The blessing of the Lord be upon Concenn and upon his entire household, and upon the entire region of Powys until the Day of Judgement.

    The Pillar was thrown down by the Roundheads during the English Civil War and a grave under it opened. Edward Lhuyd examined the Pillar and copied the inscription in 1696. The lower half disappeared but the upper half was re-erected in 1779. The original inscription is now illegible.

    External links
    Rhys, John (1908), All around the Wrekin, "Y Cymmrodor: The magazine of the Honourable Society of Cymmrodorion", Y Cymmrodor (London: Honorable Society of Cymmrodorion) XXI: 1–62 – the pillar and the etymology of "Eliseg" are discussed in this article, which includes Edward Lhuyd's translation.
    Project Eliseg - 2010 Archaeological Excavation of the Pillar and Surrounding area
    On the castlewales website
    "Ancient British Pillar, Valle Crucis Abbey, South Wales", Table-book

    Children:
    1. 4. ap Elisedd, King Brochwel Ysgythrog was born in 692 in Wales; died in 773 in Wales.