Notes:

From Lemmel:
(Daughter) Stromer N580 - ∞ v. Reichenbach
Father: Stro-20 / a Heinrich Stromer N576

(* about? 1210)

∞ (about? 1230) with Conrad von Reichenbach gen. Stromer N579

(* about? 1205)

Conrad von Reichenbach calls himself after his wedding " Stromer" (urk for the first time around 1242). 1267 in Schwabach. Citizen Nuremberg. 33 children from 3 marriages. See Stro-21 / aoo

his father: Gerhart v.Reichenbach N769 , (* about? 1170)
Ritter, 1205 on the Reichsburg Kammerstein in the district of Schwabach. See Stro-20 / aoo

he ∞2) (about? 1250) with (daughter) Tockler N849

(* about? 1225)

3 children from the marriage Stromer-Tockler. See Tokl-21 / m

he ∞3) (about? 1260) with Elisabeth (?) Hellbag N850

(* about? 1240)

15 children from the marriage Stromer-Hellbag.

Children:
1. Conrad, (* about? 1230) - alderman in Nuremberg, see Stro-22 / a

2. Heinrich Stromeir N852 , (* about? 1240)
1287-1312 Schöffe at the Schultheißengericht in Nuremberg. At the wine market. Marriage and children unknown.

3. H. Stromair N819 , (* about? 1240)
1305 vouch for H.Stromair and Chunr.Lembelin for the newcomer Fritz de Golnhofen . (Unclear if Heinrich or Hermann Stromair is meant.)

4. Otto Stromeir N853 , (* about? 1240/1245)
Only given by Ulman Stromer. No certificate known.

5. Haynolt Stromeir N854 , (* approximately? 1245) Specified
only by Ulman Stromer. No certificate known.

6. Hermann Stromeir N855 , (* 1245/1250) in
1311 together with his brother Conrad.

Regesten:
• Sister of the mayor Conrad Stromer. Her first name is unknown.
[Scharr: Waldstromer, MVGN 52 p.14]

• daughter of the mayor Conrad Stromer ∞ Beatrix v . Perg : Beatrix, ∞ Conrad v.Reichenbach to Cammerstein, the descendants are named Stromer of the maternal grandfather.
[Biedermann, Tafel 545 Waldstromer]

→ Error note: The mayor Conrad Stromer is not her father but her brother. Your first name is not documented.

Regesta to Heinrich Stromeir:
[Scharr: Forest Streamers p.35]

• 19./25.11.1290: Durinhart v.Beerbach sells his goods to Wetzendorf, Heinzendorf, Kezenhof etc. to Conrad and Adelhaid from the Neuer Markt ,

• and entrusts Chunrad Stromeyr and Gramlieb Esler with two estates to Rückersdorf.

• Witnesses: Chunrad the Eseler , Wolfel the Saxon , Chunrat the Stromeyr , Henry the Young Rose , Berchtold Pfinzing , Wolfel the Hennangel , Heinrich Stromeyr and others.
[StA Nbg Rst.Nbg. St. Catherine Monastery Urk.1. - Online 2017]

• Heinrich Stromer , 1296 in the Nuremberg Council, died unharmed.
[Biedermann panel 545 Waldstromer] Here, however, given as the son of Conrad Stromer ∞ v . Perg .

N.N. married Stromer, Conrad von Reichenbach about 1230 in Germany. Conrad (son of Stromer, Gerhart von Reichenbach) was born about 1205 in Germany; died in UNKNOWN in Nürnberg, Nürnberg, Bayern, Germany. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

1. Stromer, Conrad von Reichenbach was born about 1230; died before 20 Jul 1319 in Nürnberg, Nürnberg, Bayern, Germany.

Other Events and Attributes:

• Life Event: Lenzer Forest, Nürnberg, Nürnberg, Bayern, Germany; Forstmeister

Notes:

The map used for Heinrich Stromer is : Map from the 'Lorenzer Wald' near Nürnberg, Germany, as simple model for forest ecosystem management. By locating forest resources like hunting grounds, beehives, and mature forests ready for harvest this map from Paulus Pfinzing supported the multiple use paradigm in the 16th century (Hilf, 1938, pp. 184-185).

Oberster Forestmesister in Lorenzer Forest. Not mentioned in records, however, in 1293, the grandson is entrusted with the office, which already held "father and grandfather:.

From Lemmel
Heinrich Stromer N576 - Reichsforstmeister in Nuremberg
Father: Stro-19 / a Sebald Stromer H716

(* about? 1180)

Chief forestry master in Lorenzer forest. Not mentioned in records, however, in 1293 the grandson is entrusted with the office, which already held "father and grandfather".

Children:
1st Conrad, (* about? 1205/1210) - Reichsschultheiß in Nuremberg, see Stro-21 / w

2. (daughter), (* about? 1210) - ∞ v. Reichenbach, see Stro-21 / a

3. Heinrich Waldstromer Nh93 , (* about? 1210/1215)

4. Gramlieb Stromer N768 , (* about? 1215)

5. Else Stromer Hc18 , (* about? 1217)

∞ with Ulrich v.Laufenholz Hc19

(* about? 1210)

See Lfhz-21 / u

Regesten:
• Borrowed from the Forestry Office of the Lorenz Forest. Father of the brothers Conrad, Heinrich and Gramlieb Waldstromer , who in 1266 are leased to the forestry department of the Lorenzer Wald. In 1293 the grandson Conrad Waldstromer was granted the forestry office, which had already had "father and grandfather".

• A daughter of unknown first name, who was married to Conrad Stromer of Schwabach.
[Scharr: Waldstromer p.13]

• He himself is not certified. His first name Heinrich loud Biedermann. According to Biedermann, Heinrich's father, Sebald Reichs-Forstmeister, was already there.

• Son of Sebald Stromer : Heinrich Stromer , knight, 1223 "Reichs-Erb-Obrist forestry and Jägermeister" of the Lorenzer forest near Nuremberg.

• ∞ with Anna Countess of Dornberg , Tv Heinrich Count of Dornberg ∞ Reiza Burggräfin of Nuremberg.

• Heinrich "died without male heirs".

• His brother: Conrad Stromer , died 1266.
[Biedermann Tafel 545 Waldstromer]

→ Conrad is not his brother but his son!

• Heinrich Stromer , 1223 by Emperor Frederick II with the forestry master of the Reichswald near Nuremberg. [Ancestor lists from all German districts]

• The statement that he was a tournament champion in Nuremberg in 1197 is an invention.

• The document of 1223, in which the knight Heinrich Waldstromer and his brother Gramlieb were entrusted with the Forstmeisteramt, is a fake. Also a Sebald Stromer (according to Biedermann) can not be proven.

• Probably from a ministerial family. Unidentified father of the brothers Conrad, Heinrich and Gramlieb and a sister with an unknown first name, who is married to Conrad Stromer von Schwabach.

[See in detail Adalbert Scharr: The Nuremberg Reichsförsterfamilie Waldstromer ..., in: MVGN 52 (1963/64) p.1-41, see p.13]

• Older ancestor lists that state the following are incorrect.
Konrad Waldstromer, c. 1210
Heinrich Waldstromer, c. 1185 (omitted in some AL)
Sebald Waldstromer, c. 1150
As Sebald's children are given in Biedermann: Heinrich, Gramlieb, Conrad and a Gerhaus, † 1227, ∞ 1200 with Leopold Schürstab , Both Gerhaus and Schürstab are not documented (the first Schürstab certificate is, according to Scharr: Friedrich Schürstab 1299).

According to AL Rusam Heinrich Waldstromer is married to Anna v.Dornberg , whose other ancestors are indicated, but can not agree: For Konrad Waldstromer, for whom Rusam gives a year of birth around 1210, he gives Heinrich v.Dornberg as a grandfather, the "um / to have been born before 1200 ".

Regesta to Heinrich Waldstromer:
• 1266: Conrad Waldstromer , his brothers Heinrich and Gramlieb, and Conrad's heirs are entrusted with the forestry department of the Lorenzer Wald.
[Scharr: Waldstromer p.13]

Regesten zu Gramlieb Stromer:
• 1266: Conrad Waldstromer , his brothers Heinrich and Gramlieb, and Conrad's heirs are entrusted with the forestry department of the Lorenzer Wald.
[Scharr: Waldstromer p.13]

• Gramlieb Stromer "flourished in 1223 and died unmarried".
[Biedermann panel 545 Waldstromer] Here, however, given as the son of Sebald Stromer . - 1223 is a fake document.

Regesta to Else Stromer:
• Another sister (or daughter?) Of Conrad Waldstromer will have been Else Waldstromer , who is married to the knight Ulrich v.Lauffenholz on Oberbürg (1256-1273).
[Scharr: Forest Streamers p.15]

Other Events and Attributes:

• Occupation: Forest Master

Notes:

Sebald Stromer H716 - Reichs Forstmeister
Parents unknown

(* about? 1140)

Reich Forestry and Jägermeister in Nuremberg.

Children:
1. Gerhaus Stromer H715 , (* about? 1175)

∞ with Leopold Schürstab H714

(* about? 1175), † 1227

See Schb-20 / a

2. Heinrich, (* about? 1180) - Reichsforstmeister in Nuremberg, see Stro-20 / a

Regesten:
• Mr. Leopold Schürstab , † 1227, ∞ 1200 with Gerhaus Stromerin , Tv Sebald Stromer , Reich Forestry and Jägermeister.

• 1297 tournament.
[Biedermann panel 545 Waldstromer]

• The tournament 1297 is an invention.

• Not documented.

Regesten zu Gerhaus Stromer:
• Only according to Biedermann. Neither Gerhaus nor Leopold Schürstab are documented. [Scratching]