Notes:

Ulrich Groland N896 -
Parents: Grol-21 / e Ulrich Groland Ni12 , Clara Ortlieb Ni13

(* about? 1330), † 1407

Father-in-law and partner of Ulman Stromeir. Councilor Nuremberg, erw. 1361

∞1) (about? 1350) with Elisabeth Zollner Nh81

(*? 1327)

her parents: Heinrich Zollner n218 , (* about? 1300), † 1369 in Bamberg
1357 on the Zollnerhof in Bamberg. "Heinrich Zolner gen. Von Schletten" † before 1376. See Zoln-23 / e ; ∞ (about? 1325) with Gertraud Haller H108 , (* about? 1306).

∞2) (about? 1365) with Elisabeth Schopper Na18

(*? 1345)

See Sopr-4 / p

her parents: Peter Schopper Nh82 , (* about? 1325), † 1401 in Nuremberg
In Nuremberg, 1360 named the council. See Sopr-3 / p ; ∞ with Catharina landlord Nh83 , (* about? 1325), † 1401 in Nuremberg.

Children:
from 1st marriage:
1. Agnes Grolant N888 , * 25.11.1351, † 1413

∞ 21.11.1366 with Ulman / Ulrich Stromer N620

* 6.1.1329 in Nuremberg, † 3.4.1407 at the plague

Builder of the first German paper mill. About 1390-1407 he wrote the "Püchel vom miim sex and abentewr". Councilman; Diplomat with Emperor Charles IV and King Wenzel. See Stro-24 / d

his parents: Heinrich Stromer N613 , (* about? 1260), † 30.4.1347 in Nuremberg
1313: Mr. Hainrich, Mr. Conrat Stromeir's son. 1323 at the salt market. See Stro-23 / e ( Er ∞1) (about? 1291) with (Kunigunde) Gnatznapf N775 , (* about? 1282)
8 Kinder Stromer. ) ; ∞ (about? 1324) with Margarete Geusmid N663 , (* about? 1295), † 24.11.1350.

he ∞1) 1358 with Anna Hegner n978

(* about? 1338), † 1365

2. Hans, (* about? 1370) -, see Grol-23 / e

from 2nd marriage:
3. Els Groland Ne04 , (* about? 1365)

∞ with Hermann Stromer N826

(* about? 1340/1345), † 1406

In Nuremberg. See Stro-25 / a

his parents: Peter Stromer N653 , * 1292, † 4.12.1388
inventor of the softwood seed. In 1375, Lewpolt Schurstab and Fritz Lemlein testify for him. See Stro-24 / a ( Er ∞2) (1351) with Margarete Forstmeister N777 , (* about? 1330) ) ; ∞ with Siglint Ebner N776 , (* about? 1310), † 1350.

4. Hans, (* about? 1372) - Senator in Nuremberg, see Grol-23 / o

5. Gertraud Groland Nh80 , (* about? 1375), † 1407

∞ 1400 in Nuremberg with Franz Waldstromer Nh76

(* about? 1370), † ..11.1441

from 1427 bailiff of the Lorenzer forest. See Wstr-26 / e

his parents: Hans Waldstromer N637 , (* about? 1332), † 1395
Reichsforstmeister. See Wstr-25 / e ; ∞ with Anna v.Gravenreuth Ne89 , (* about? 1350).

he ∞2) 1407 in Nuremberg with Clara Grundherr Nj80

(* about? 1385)

6. Elisabeth Groland Nj07 , (* about? 1380), † 1413

∞ 1404 with Berthold Tucher Nb79

* 28.6.1386, † 6.5.1454 in Nuremberg St. Seebald

3x married but no son See Tuc-27 / a

his parents: Hans Tucher N874 , * 1368, † 11.11.1425
3 sons: Berthold (3x verh but no son), Hans, Endres See Tuc-26 / a ; ∞ 1385 with Anna Behaim N875 , * 1371, † 1436.

he ∞2) 15.6.1416 with Christina Holzschuher H352

(* about? 1402), † 22.7.1434 in Nuremberg

he ∞2) 15.6.1416 with Agnes Riegler H784

(* about? 1410)

Regesten:
[WvStromer: "Assembly" MVGN 52 p.64]

• Ulrich Groland , 1361-1398 Senator in Nuremberg, † 1407, buried St. Sebald. His parents: Ulrich Groland ∞ Clara Ortlieb .

• ∞1) Elisabeth Zollner from Bamberg, Tv Mr. Heinrich Zollner ∞ Gertraud Haller . - Son: Hans, becomes a senator in 1398, ∞ 1412 with Agnes Pfinzing .

• ∞2) Elisabeth Schopper , Tv Mr Peter Schopper ∞ Catharina Grundherr . - Children: Agnes, Elisabeth ∞ Stromer , Elisabeth ∞ Tucher , Gertraud, Hans.
[Biedermann panel 615 Groland]

→ Attention: There are siblings of the same name!

→ Attention: Some things might not be right here. For the daughter Agnes from second marriage is stated that she was born in 1351 . For the son Hans from his first marriage is stated that he became a senator in 1398, 1412 married and 1449 died. He would have to be born long after 1351, possibly only around 1360/70! So I suppose that the daughter Agnes comes from her first marriage. (HDL)

→ For the two half brothers Hans Groland is indicated in each case: died in anno 1449. Is that correct? For the younger Hans from second marriage is stated: "Hans Groland the old man". Is there some confused? (HDL)

Regesta to Gertraud Haller:
• Elisabeth Haller ∞ Heinrich Zollner . [Haller: 96.BHVB 1957/1958]

• Gertraud Haller , Tv Ulrich Haller ∞ Vorchtel , ∞1) Heinrich Zollner , ∞2) Peter Grundherr .
[Biedermann panel 62 D landlord] The first name Gertraud is probably wrong here (HDL).

Regesta to Agnes Grolant:
• She was a self-employed merchant as a widow. Her scribe was imprisoned in 1412 together with the writer of Ulrich Hirschvogel in Bohemia.
[Christa Schaper: "Hirschvogel", Nbger F'gen Bd.18 (1973) p.41]

Regesta to Anna Hegner:
• Ulmann Stromer , * 1328, ∞1) 1358 with Anna Hegner , Tv Ulrich Hegner . She † 1365, after she had two children born: Ulrich * 1360, † 1361; and Anna * 1364, she ∞ with Sebald Vorchtel .
[Biedermann panel 465B]

• Anna Hegner , † 1365, buried Heilig-Geist-Hospital Nuremberg, ∞ 1358 with Ulman Stromer .
[JAPast: Descendants Hegner, Mtlg 2014]

Regesta to Gertraud Groland:
[Biedermann panel 615]

Regesten to Elisabeth Groland:
• Elisabeth Groland † 1413, ∞ 1404 with Berthold Tucher * 1386, † 6.5.1454.
[Biedermann panel 615 Groland]

Elisabeth married Groland, Ulrich about 1350 in Nürnberg, Nürnberg, Bayern, Germany. Ulrich (son of Groland, Ulrich and Ortlieb, Clara) was born about 1330 in Nürnberg, Nürnberg, Bayern, Germany; died in 1407 in Nürnberg, Nürnberg, Bayern, Germany. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

1. Groland, Hans was born about 1370 in Nürnberg, Nürnberg, Bayern, Germany; died in 1452 in Nürnberg, Nürnberg, Bayern, Germany.

Other Events and Attributes:

• Residence: 1357, Zollnerhof, Bamberg, Bamberg, Bayern, Germany

Notes:

From Lemmel:
Heinrich Zollner n218 - in Bamberg and Kirchschletten
Father: Zoln-22 / e Eberhard Zollner Nc35

(* about? 1300), † 1369 in Bamberg

1357 on the Zollnerhof in Bamberg. "Heinrich Zolner gen. Von Schletten" † before 1376.

∞1) (about? 1325) with Gertraud Haller H108

(* about? 1306)

her parents: Ulrich Haller H103 , (* about? 1260), † 16.7.1324, (Totenschild)
Since 1293 mentioned in Nuremberg. 1297, 1314 councilman. In 1307 he buys the village Lauff. Financier and confidant of Emperor Ludwig of Bavaria and other princes. See Hall-21 / a ( Er ∞1) (about? 1285) with Anna Tockler N706 , (* about? 1265)
ext. 1305 ) ; ∞ after 1305 with Els Vorchtel N718 , (* about? 1280).

∞2) (about? 1335) with Catharina Tockler n049

(* about? 1315)

See Tokl-23 / e

∞3) (about? 1355) with Elisabeth Haller H869

(* about? 1330), † 1407

her parents: Ulrich Haller H105 , (* about? 1290), † late Oct.1358 in Nuremberg
citizens in Nuremberg. 1332-1343 witness. 1333 brother-in-law of Bertold Pfinzing ("on the floor"). See Hall-22 / o ( Er ∞2) (about? 1335) with Katharina v.Dachsbach N596 , (* about? 1315) ) ; ∞ (about? 1325) with Els / Adelheid Pfinzing N595 , (* about? 1290), † 26.9.1344.

she ∞2) in 1386 with Peter Grundherr H867

(* about? 1315), † 1386

Children:
from 1st marriage:
1. Catharina Zollner n222 , (* about? 1325)

∞ with Martin Löffelholz N406

(* about? 1320), † 1393 in Bamberg

He was already running the Löffelholzsche lamb coat of arms! See Loef-24 / b

his parents: Friedrich Löffelholz N401 , * ca 1295, † ca 1404
In Bamberg. He died at the age of 109 years. Author of a Gospel book. See Loef-23 / a ; ∞ with ... Melber N405 , (* about? 1300).

2. Elisabeth Zollner Nh81 , (* about? 1327)

∞ (about? 1350) with Ulrich Groland N896

(* about? 1330), † 1407

Father-in-law and partner of Ulman Stromeir. Councilor Nuremberg, erw. 1361 See Grol-22 / e

his parents: Ulrich Groland Ni12 , (* about? 1305), † 1373
1363 councilman in Nuremberg. See Grol-21 / e ; ∞ with Clara Ortlieb Ni13 , (* about? 1310).

he ∞2) (about? 1365) with Elisabeth Schopper Na18

(*? 1345)

See Sopr-4 / p

from 2nd marriage:
3. Georg, (* about? 1340) - in Bamberg, see Zoln-24 / e

4. Gerhart, (* about? 1345) - in Nuremberg, see Zoln-24 / g

5. Friedrich, (* about? 1350) -, see Zoln-24 / i

6. Eberhard, (* about? 1355) - on Kirchschletten, see Zoln-24 / j

Regesten:
• Are all three marriages related to the same Heinrich?

• 1st marriage: Heinrich Zollner in Bamberg ∞ with Gertraud Haller . Daughter: Elisabeth Zollner ∞ with Ulrich Groland in Nuremberg.
[Biedermann Panel 615 Groland]
[Haller: 96.BHVB 1957/1958] Here HvHaller calls Elisabeth instead of Gertraud Haller , which is probably related to the third marriage. (HDL)

• 2nd marriage: Friedrich Zollner , son of Heinrich Zollner fire, erw.1346, 1363, held in Neuses at Ebrach in Horbach, Wernthal, Hadmannsbach, ∞ with Catharina Dogg activist , TV Günther Doggler , secret secretary Charles de IV.
[ Biedermann: Ritterschaft Franken im Gebürg, 1747, Plate 287]

→ Here is when Heinrich Zollner father stated: Heinrich Zollner , ext. 1260. That's unlikely in time. elsewhere Eberhard is mentioned as his father. (HDL)

• 3rd marriage: Heinrich Zollner , † 1369, ∞ Elisabeth Haller , she † 1407, she ∞2) 1370 Peter Grundherr .
[Biedermann panel 96 Haller]

Further :

• † 1370 Bamberg, ∞ Catharina Doggler [AL Hacker AL10962]

• 1340: Kunegunde Hutwan and her niece Katharina Zollner found the Klarissenkloster in the Zinkenwörth.

• Heinz Zollner founded a Seelhaus: 5.8.1356 "dez Zolners selhaus on the sand at the ekken". 1358 "Heinz Zollner's house".

• Another Seelhaus, which adjoins the Elisabeth Hospital, belongs to Heinz Zollner in 1361 . Later it comes to the Elisabeth Hospital.
[Christina Festerling: sister houses in Bamberg, dissertation Bamberg 2005, pages 44, 59 (Katharina) and page 77 (Heinz)]

• 1357 Heinrich Zollner , son of Eberhard Zollner , at the Zollnerhof in Bamberg, tax-free letter.

• 1396 brothers Georg and Gerhart Zollner on the fire at Bamberg; Gerhart is a citizen of Nuremberg.

• 1402 Gerhart Zollner , citizen of Nuremberg, at the Zollnerhof in Bamberg.
[Paschke, Court Chair ..., Studies ... Issue 38 p.12]

• Kirchschletten: In 1376, after the death of Heinrich Zolner, called von Schletten , Bishop Lamprecht called a Peter Posse "in capitulo eccl. Bamb." introduce.
[Internet: Bishopric of Bamberg]

→ Thereafter, Heinrich already had the property in Kirchschletten, where his son Eberhard sits. (HDL)

Regesta to Gertraud Haller:
• Elisabeth Haller ∞ Heinrich Zollner . [Haller: 96.BHVB 1957/1958]

• Gertraud Haller , Tv Ulrich Haller ∞ Vorchtel , ∞1) Heinrich Zollner , ∞2) Peter Grundherr .
[Biedermann panel 62 D landlord] The first name Gertraud is probably wrong here (HDL).

Regesta to Anna Tockler:
[A. Scharr: Gen.Jb. 3 1963 p.17]

Regesten zu Els Vorchtel:
• Her father: Heinrich Vorchtel in Nuremberg.
[Genealogy from all German regions]

→ According to Scharr, her father is Berthold Vorchtel .

• Elisabeth Vorchtel , parents: Bertold (? Heinrich) Vorchtel , † 1257 Nuremberg, ∞ Gertraud Roter .
[B.Aign: AL Zinn, Gen.Jahrbuch Vol.45 / 46 2008]

→ If Bertold died in 1257, he could not possibly be the father of Els (HDL).

Regesta to Elisabeth Haller:
• Ulrich Haller ∞1) Adelheid Pfinzing , ∞2) Catharina v . Bachbach . One of the daughters from his first marriage:

• Elisabeth Haller , † 1407, ∞1) Heinrich Zollner , † 1369; ∞2) 1370 Peter Grundherr, Senator Nuremberg, † 1386, buried Barfüsserkloster Nuremberg.
[Biedermann panel 96 Haller]

Regesta to Katharina v. Bach Bach:
[Dr. GWSchmidt]

Regesten zu Els / Adelheid Pfinzing:
• Adelaide? or Els? compare [Miracle p.47]

Adelheid loud [Biedermann panel 394]

• Els loud [Scharr MVGN 52 p.10]

• Ulman Stromer: Berthold Pfinzing has a daughter who has married Ulreich Haller .

→ This Adelaide Pfinzing is not included in "Pfinzing die Alten" by [G.Wunder S.44]

Regesten to Peter Grundherr:
• Peter Grundherr † 1386, ∞1) Gertraud Haller , † 1385, Tv Ulrich Haller ∞ Elisabeth Vorchtel , widow of Heinrich Zollner ; ∞2) 1386 Elisabeth Haller , † 1407, Tv Ulrich Haller (son of the previous Ulrich) ∞ Adelheid Pfinzing . - A son Peter Grundherr , who probably died in youth.
[biedermann panel 62 D]

Heinrich married Haller, Gertraud about 1325 in Bamberg, Bamberg, Bayern, Germany. Gertraud (daughter of Haller, Ulrich and Vorchtel, Els) was born about 1306 in Bamberg, Bamberg, Bayern, Germany; died after 1364 in Nürnberg, Nürnberg, Bayern, Germany. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

Other Events and Attributes:

• Residence: 1328, Zollnerhof, Bamberg, Bamberg, Bayern, Germany

Other Events and Attributes:

• Residence: 1293, Nürnberg, Nürnberg, Bayern, Germany
• Residence: 1297, Nürnberg, Nürnberg, Bayern, Germany
• Possessions: 1307, Lauf an der Pegnitz, Nürnberger Land, Bayern, Germany; Buys Village

Notes:

From Hans-Dietrich Lemmel

Ulrich Haller - Councilman in Nuremberg
◆ Parents unknown
◆ Born about 1260)
◆ Died 16.7.1324, (death sign)

Mentioned in Nuremberg since 1293. 1297, 1314 councilman. In 1307 he buys the village Lauff. Financier and confidant of Emperor Ludwig of Bavaria and other princes.

∞1) (about? 1285) with Anna Tockler N706

(* about? 1265)

ext. 1305

her father: Hans Tockler N707 , (* 1230)
in Bamberg. See Tokl-21 / e

∞2) after 1305 with Els Vorchtel N718

(* about? 1280)

her father: Berthold Vorchtel N249 , (* 1245)
1289 Schöffe. See Vorc-23 / a

Children:
from 1st marriage:
1. (daughter), (* about? 1280) - from Nuremberg in Bamberg, see Hall-22 / a

2. Ulrich, (* about? 1290) - alderman in Nuremberg, see Hall-22 / o

3. (daughter) Haller H130 , (* about? 1292), † before 1334

∞ with ... Red H177

(* about? 1285)

4. Konrad, (* about? 1295) - in Bamberg, see Hall-22 / p

from 2nd marriage:
5. Gertraud Haller H108 , (* about? 1306)

∞ (about? 1325) with Heinrich Zollner n218

(* about? 1300), † 1369 in Bamberg

1357 on the Zollnerhof in Bamberg. "Heinrich Zolner gen. Von Schletten" † before 1376. See Zoln-23 / e

his father: Eberhard Zollner Nc35 , (* about? 1280)
1328 on the Zollnerhof in Bamberg. See Zoln-22 / e

he ∞2) (about? 1335) with Catharina Tockler n049

(* about? 1315)

See Tokl-23 / e

he ∞3) (about? 1355) with Elisabeth Haller H869

(* about? 1330), † 1407

6. Berthold, (* about? 1308) - to Gräfenberg, see Hall-22 / t

7. Franz, (* about? 1310) - alderman in Nuremberg, see Hall-22 / u

8. Heinrich, (* about? 1312) -, see Hall-22 / w

9. Jakob, (* about? 1315) - in Nuremberg, see Hall-22 / y

Regesten:
• Progenitor of the Haller, according to "Hallerbuch" of Hans Haller from 1526.

• From his first marriage with "Tocker": son Ulrich and daughter ∞ Braunwart .

• From 2nd marriage: To Elisabeth ∞ Heinrich Zolner .
[Haller, 96.BHVB 1958]

• King Ludwig the Bavarian (1314-1347) was 40 times in Nuremberg and lived with Ulrich Haller , Albrecht Ebner , Henry the Weigel and most recently Konrad Groß .

• Many more details.
[Werner Schultheiß: Money and Finance Nuremberg Citizens ..., in: Bibliography on the Economic History of Nuremberg, 1967, p.66ff]

• Originally from Tyrol, ministerial of the Counts of Tyrol, the family changed hands in the second half of the 13th century. after Franconia.
[AL Frotscher]

• The son Franz from the marriage Vorchtel according to AL10962.
• 29.3.1311: The brothers Friedrich and Heinrich Zollner sell tithes in the villages of Ampferbach and Manndorf, fiefs of the Hochstift Würzburg, to Friedrich Holzschuher and Ulrich Haller .
[Internet 2012, www.mom-ca.uni-koeln, Ebrach]

• 1303/1313: Ulrich Haller and Friedrich Holzschuher , both citizens of Nuremberg, receive 2 tithes in Ampferbach, which Windeck has renounced. - Ulrich Haller receives a tithe to Borbath.
[Internet Database 2013 Hochstift Würzburg] Lehenbuch 1303-1313]

• 1314 Councilor Nuremberg. [GWSchmidt]

• 1293 first certification of the Haller in Nuremberg.
[A. Scharr: Gen.Jb. 3 1963 p.17]

• Anna Tockler was the wife of Ulrich Haller , who relocated from Bamberg to Nuremberg in 1293.
[G. Frhr v.Horn, 36.BHVB 1874 S.95]

• According to [ancestor lists from all German Geuen, Erg]: first name unknown; that he bought Lauff should be deleted.

Regesta to Anna Tockler:
[A. Scharr: Gen.Jb. 3 1963 p.17]

Regesten zu Els Vorchtel:
• Her father: Heinrich Vorchtel in Nuremberg.
[Genealogy from all German regions]

→ According to Scharr, her father is Berthold Vorchtel .

• Elisabeth Vorchtel , parents: Bertold (? Heinrich) Vorchtel , † 1257 Nuremberg, ∞ Gertraud Roter .
[B.Aign: AL Zinn, Gen.Jahrbuch Vol.45 / 46 2008]

→ If Bertold died in 1257, he could not possibly be the father of Els (HDL).

Regesten to (daughter) Haller:
[Haller p.118]

Regesta to Gertraud Haller:
• Elisabeth Haller ∞ Heinrich Zollner . [Haller: 96.BHVB 1957/1958]

• Gertraud Haller , Tv Ulrich Haller ∞ Vorchtel , ∞1) Heinrich Zollner , ∞2) Peter Grundherr .
[Biedermann panel 62 D landlord] The first name Gertraud is probably wrong here (HDL).

Regesta to Elisabeth Haller:
• Ulrich Haller ∞1) Adelheid Pfinzing , ∞2) Catharina v . Bachbach . One of the daughters from his first marriage:

• Elisabeth Haller , † 1407, ∞1) Heinrich Zollner , † 1369; ∞2) 1370 Peter Grundherr, Senator Nuremberg, † 1386, buried Barfüsserkloster Nuremberg.
[Biedermann panel 96 Haller]

Ulrich married Vorchtel, Els after 1305 in Nürnberg, Nürnberg, Bayern, Germany. Els (daughter of Vorchtel, Berthold) was born about 1280 in Germany; died in DECEASED in Nürnberg, Nürnberg, Bayern, Germany. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

Notes:

From Hans-Dietrich Lemmel:

Berthold Vorchtel - in Nuremberg
◆ Father: Conrad Vorchtel
◆ Born about 1245
◆ 1289 Schöffe

Daughter:
1. Els Vorchtel N718 , (* about? 1280)

∞ after 1305 with Ulrich Haller H103

(* about? 1260), † 16.7.1324, (death sign)

Mentioned in Nuremberg since 1293. 1297, 1314 councilman. In 1307 he buys the village Lauff. Financier and confidant of Emperor Ludwig of Bavaria and other princes. See Hall-21 / a

he ∞1) (about? 1285) with Anna Tockler N706

(* about? 1265)

ext. 1305

Regesten:
• 1289 Bertholt Forchtl in a jury:

• a letter from 1289: Kunigunda Turprechting , wife of Werner Gruntherr , bequeathed her estates to her brother's children (Berthold, Ulrich, Kunigund, Methild) that her husband had no power over it.
Issued by Schultheiß Marquart (certainly Pfinzing!) , Together with Heinrich Groß the parents, Werner Nuzel , Eberhardt Kessbasser , Berthold Forchtl , Cunrad Eßler , Weigel von Newenmarkt , Heinrich Groß the younger, Heinrich Holzschuher , as witnesses,

• Conrad Pfinzing , Berthold Turprecht , Werner Grundherr , Berthold Pfinzing Schultheiß and his father Conrad Pfinzing , Hermann vom Stein , Heinrich Staudigel , Leupold Staudigel .
[Internet 2013, Nuremberg Yearbooks vol. 1-2 p.83]

• Bertold Vorchtel, father of Els.
[A.Scharr: Gen.Jb. 3 1963 p.17]

→ I suspect that Berthold is a son of Conrad Vorchtel. (HDL)

• This or a younger one: Mintmaster Bertholt Vorchtel :

• 28.5.1330: Marquart sturgeon and his landlady Mrs. Jutta give their estate to Schweinau, where Conrad Friedel and his landlady Kunigund are sitting, to the Bamberg provost. Marquart sturgeon had previously bought the estate from the mint master Bertholt Vorchtel .
[CityA Nbg online]

→ This estate belongs to the 1341 Irmel Lemblinne .

Regesten zu Els Vorchtel:
• Her father: Heinrich Vorchtel in Nuremberg.
[Genealogy from all German regions]

→ According to Scharr, her father is Berthold Vorchtel .

• Elisabeth Vorchtel , parents: Bertold (? Heinrich) Vorchtel , † 1257 Nuremberg, ∞ Gertraud Roter .
[B.Aign: AL Zinn, Gen.Jahrbuch Vol.45 / 46 2008]

→ If Bertold died in 1257, he could not possibly be the father of Els (HDL).

Regesta to Anna Tockler:
[A. Scharr: Gen.Jb. 3 1963 p.17]