Other Events and Attributes:

• FSID: 9XP8-XK3
• Birth: 1325, Nürnberg, Nürnberg, Bayern, Germany
• Birth: 1325, Nürnberg, Nürnberg, Bayern, Germany

Notes:

From Hans-Dietrich Lemmel:

Catharina Weigel
◆ ∞ Seybold
◆ Eltern unbekannt
◆ (* etwa ?1345)
◆ ∞ mit Heinrich Seybold he was (* etwa ?1340)

Tochter:
1. Catharina Seybold, (* etwa ?1375) ∞ mit Conrad Schlüsselfelder who was (* etwa ?1370( sein Vater: ... Schlüsselfelder (* etwa ?1340) Vater von Konrad und Ulrich.

Catharina married Seybold, Heinrich in 1346 in Bamberg, Bamberg, Bayern, Germany. Heinrich was born about 1340 in Bamberg, Bamberg, Bayern, Germany; died in DECEASED in Nürnberg, Nürnberg, Bayern, Germany. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

1. Seybold, Katharina was born in 1375 in Bamberg, Bamberg, Bayern, Germany; died in DECEASED in Kirchensittenbach, Nürnberger Land, Bayern, Germany.

Notes:

From Hans-Dietrich Lemmel:

Konrad Weigel- in Nuremberg
◆ Father: N.N. Weigel
◆ (* about? 1275), † before 1341
◆ 1305 mentioned as a customer of Seifried Holzschuher.
⁃ ∞ (about? 1300/1305) with Gerhaus Holzschuher who was (* about? 1275/1280)
⁃ Her parents: Friedrich Holzschuher, (* about? 1250), † 20.3.1339 buried in the Katharinenkapelle of the monastery Ebrach. Mentioned from 1270. 1303.1314 Schöffe in Nuremberg. His daughter is probably Irmel, who lives from 1335 as a widowed Lemlein in Nuremberg. He was ∞2 (about? 1290/1300) with Jutta Graf, (*? 1260?) 1308 and 1318 mentioned as wife of Friedrich Holzschuher. Sister of Conrad Graf (documented 1287-1308); her father probably the alderman Hermann Comes (documentary 1255, 1258). ) ; ∞ (about? 1275) with Jutta Stromer, (* about? 1255/1260).

Children:
Jeut, (* about? 1300) - ∞ Katerpekk, see Weig-24 / f

2. Fritz Weigel N122 , (* about? 1303), † before 1341
∞ with Gerhaus..., she lives as a widow in 1341.

3. Cunrad Weigel N123 , (* about? 1303), † before 1341
∞ with Elspet..., she lives as a widow in 1341.

Regesten:
• Around 1305 Cunradus Weigelein in the Hozschuher book of actions for larger amounts of cloth and furs.

• 1305 Mr. Chunrad Weigel as a witness in a Nuremberg court document on the income of the monastery Ebrach from the courtyard Conrad Muffel s in Katzwang.

• 1307 "Chunrat Weigel , burger of Nuremberg".

• 12.11.1340: Gertraut, Mr. Cunrat Weigel s blessed widow at the dairy market ...

• 11.12.1341: Gerhaus, hern Cunrad Weigels blessed wittwe, citizen of Nuremberg, makes a donation to the women altar to St.Sebald, with consent "Cunrat Katerpekken , my Ayden, vern Jeuten, his landlady, my daughter, Cunrat Gnatznapfes , the also spoke for Katrein, his landlady, my eniclein, Vern Gerhausen, Fritzen Weygel blessed, my suns widows, and Vern Elspeten, Cunrat Weigels, my suns blessed widows. " So children: Jeut ∞ Katerpekk, with granddaughter Katrein ∞ Gnatznapf; Fritz († before 1341) ∞ Gerhaus; Cunrad († before 1341) ∞ Elspet.
[Hirschmann, MVGN 41 p.272] Gerhaus is a wood shoemaker .

→ Hirschmann points out that two different Konrad-Weigel-widows are mentioned here and therefore it remains unclear which Konrad belongs to which documents. Here I arrange, somewhat arbitrarily, the Holzschuher verandah into the same family. (HDL)

• 29.3.1315: Cunradt Wiglein , Nuremberg citizen, gives to the maintenance of a daughter.
[CityA Nbg, online]

• Mr. Conrad Weigel ∞ 1318 with Gutta Holtzschuherin , Tv Friedrich H. ∞ Gutta Stromer .
[Biedermann Tafel 167 Holzschuher]

→ Hirschmann calls her Gerhaus instead of Gutta. - If the year 1318 of the marriage at Biedermann is correct, she may be the second wife of Konrad Weigel and not the mother of his children. (HDL)

Regesten zu Gerhaus Holzschuher:
→ In AL Rusam this Gerhaus Holzschuher is regarded as the sister of Heinrich and Seifried Holzschuher (* approx. 1275/80). Then Seifried Holzschuher in El. Weigel married his niece. - In principle, that would work, but it can hardly be old in age. In terms of age, she would have to be a daughter of Heinrich Holzschuher ∞ v.Gründlach. (HDL)

Regesto to Fritz Weigel:
• 1338.1339 Fritz Weigel as a witness.
[Hirschmann p.273]

Regesta to Cunrad Weigel:
• 1332 "Weiglinus filius Cunradi" called consul in the Council Directory. - That must be Conrad and not his brother Fritz.
[Hirschmann p.273]

Konrad married Holzschuher, Gerhauß in 1318 in Nürnberg, Nürnberg, Bayern, Germany. Gerhauß (daughter of Holzschuher, Friedrich and Stromer, Jutta von Reichenbach) was born between 1276 and 1280 in Bayern, Germany; died in DECEASED in Nürnberg, Nürnberg, Bayern, Germany. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

Notes:

From Hans-Dietrich Lemmel

N.N. Weigel
◆ Parents unknown
◆ (* about? 1240)
◆ Suspected father of the Holzschuher group of Weigel, born around 1275.

Children:
1 Konrad, (* about? 1275) - in Nuremberg
2 Sifrid, (* about? 1275) -
3 Hermann, (* about? 1275) -
4 Eberlein Weigel, (* about? 1275) mentioned in the Holzschuherbuch.
5 Elisabeth Weigel, (* 1280), † 2.10.1365, buried in Ebrach
⁃ ∞ (about? 1300/1305) with Seifried Holzschuher
⁃ (* about? 1275/1280) in Nuremberg, † 25.3.1354 in Nuremberg
⁃ In Nuremberg, he lives at the Long Bridge. Documented from 1315. 1342-1353 in the council.
⁃ His parents: Friedrich Holzschuher H012 , (* about? 1250), † 20.3.1339 buried in the Katharinenkapelle of the monastery Ebrach
⁃ Mentioned from 1277. 1303.1314 Schöffe in Nuremberg. His daughter is probably Irmel, who lives from 1335 as a widowed Lemlein in Nuremberg. He ∞2 (about? 1290/1300) with Jutta Graf, (*? 1260? 1308 and 1318 mentioned as wife of Friedrich Holzschuher. Sister of Conrad Graf (documented 1287-1308); her father probably the alderman Hermann Comes (documentary 1255, 1258). ) ; ∞ (about? 1275) with Jutta Stromer, (* about? 1255/1260)

Regesten:
◆ Around 1305: Hermannus Weigelein , Eberlein Weigelein , Cunradus Weigelein in the Holzschuher book of action, the former with small sums, Cunradus with larger quantities of cloth and furs. [Hirschmann p.272]
◆ → Are these three brothers? (HDL)
◆ The (alleged children?) Konrad, Sifrid and Elisabeth are married to siblings Holzschuher , whose other sister Irmel is married to Hermann Lemlein / Lemmel .
◆ → 1.11.1335: Mr. Weigel at the Weynmarkt, to whom God is gracious. [Scharr: Waldstrom MVGN 52 p.40 footnote 195]
◆ → Is that one of his sons ??? HDL

Regesta to Elisabeth Weigel:
◆ her death: [A.Scharr: Bl.f.fränk.Fk. 8 (1965) p.145]
◆ → In various ancestral lists is Elisabeth Weigel, the wife of Seifrid Holzschuher, as a daughter of Konrad Weigel ∞ Gerhaus Holzschuher stated, this Gerhaus Holzschuher turn is given as a daughter of Friedrich Holzschuher (ie as a sister of Seifrid Holzschuher), which is not possible in time , - Elisabeth Weigel can at best be the sister of this Konrad Weigel, presumably the daughter of the older Konrad Weigel . (HDL)
◆ Seifried Holzschuher , † 1354, ∞ with Elisabeth Weigel , † 1365, daughter of Conrad Weigel to Nuremberg.
◆ [Biedermann panel 169 B Holzschuher] [B.Aign: AL Zinn, Gen.Jahrbuch Bd.45 / 46 2008]

Konrad married Pfinzing, Adelheid. Adelheid (daughter of Pfinzing, Merklin and Isholt, Els) was born about 1242 in Nürnberg, Nürnberg, Bayern, Germany; died in DECEASED in Bayern, Germany. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

Notes:

From Hans-Dietrich Lemmel:

Friedrich Holzschuher - Schöffe in Nuremberg
◆ Parents: Heinrich Holzschuher, (Elisabeth?) von Gründlach
◆ (* about? 1250), † 20.3.1339 buried in the Katharinenkapelle of the monastery Ebrach
◆ Mentioned from 1270. 1303.1314 Schöffe in Nuremberg. His daughter is probably Irmel, who lives from 1335 as a widowed Lemlein in Nuremberg.
◆ ∞1) (about? 1275) with Jutta Stromer
⁃ (* about? 1255/1260)
⁃ her parents: Conrad Stromer N578 , (* about? 1230), † before 20.7.1319
⁃ Conrad 1283-1313 erw. 1291 Schöffe in Nuremberg. In 1313 he buys a meadow near Hersbruck. See Stro-22 / a ( Er ∞2) (about? 1300) with Kunigunde / Anna v.Laufenholz N851 , (* about? 1280) ) ; ∞ (about? 1255) with (Sofie?) Esler , (* about? 1235) Your first name is not Kunigunde. 11 children ..
◆ ∞2) (about? 1290/1300) with Jutta Graf who was (* about? 1260) She was mentioned in 1308 and 1318 as the wife of Friedrich Holzschuher. Sister of Conrad Graf (documented 1287-1308); her father probably the alderman Hermann Comes (documentary 1255, 1258). Her father: Hermann Comes, (* about? 1220) alderman , documented 1255, 1258. See Graf-21 / a

Children:
from 1st marriage:
1 Heinrich, (* about? 1275) - in Nuremberg, see wood-23 / a

2. Gerhaus wooden shoe H022 , (* about? 1275/1280)

∞ (about? 1300/1305) with Konrad Weigel N521

(* about? 1275), † before 1341

1305 mentioned as a customer of Seifried Holzschuher. See Weig-23 / f

his father: ... Weigel N804 , (* 1240)
Suspected father of the Holzschuher group of Weigel , born around 1275. See Weig-22 / g2

3. Seifried, (* 1275/1280) - councilor in Nuremberg, see Holz-23 / b

4. Friedrich, (* about? 1280) - in Nuremberg, see Holz-23 / bb

5. (daughter) Holzschuher H024 , (* about? 1280)

∞ with Sifrid Weigel N799

(* about? 1275)

In 1318 he sold, inter alia, the bailiwick of the court in Wolkersdorf to his father-in-law Friedrich Holzschuher . [Scharr Bl.f.fr.Fk 1962] [not requested by Hirschmann] See Weig-23 / g

his father: ... Weigel N804 , (* 1240)
Suspected father of the Holzschuher group of Weigel , born around 1275. See Weig-22 / g2

6. Irmel (Holzschuher) n603 , (* about? 1280/1285), † after 1363
1335-1363 Irmel Lemblinne in Nuremberg. 1360 rich donation to the Andreasaltar of the Nuremberg Lorenzkirche.

∞ around 1305/10 with Hermann Lemmel / Lemlein n674

(* about? 1280), † before 1336

1304 "H.Lemlein" in the Holzschuherbuch, 1319 Hermannus Lemmel in Haßfurt. 1331 "the Lemler" in Nuremberg. See N-23 / a

his father: Chunrad Lembelin n673 , (* about? 1250)
1305 citizens in Nuremberg, and even before 1302. owned by Ansbach? After Nuremberg genealogies old Nuremberg family. See N-22 / a

Regesten:
Summary :

• By Biedermann "Friedrich I" Holzschuher, son of "Seifried I". That is incorrect. According to Scharr he is son of "Heinrich II".

• 1277-1311 in Nuremberg, here from 1391 in the Council.

• from 1311 in Ebrach, died here in 1339.

• Wife: Jutta Stromer , daughter of Conrad Stromer from his first marriage to a daughter Esler (not, as stated by Biedermann from a marriage with a Farnbacherin) . Then a second marriage with Jutta Graf .

• Children: Biedermann and Ebracher documents mention two sons, Heinrich and Seifried. Biedermann gives a daughter Gutta, who marries the Conrad Weigel . The certificates, however, indicate two daughters (no gutta), who are married to Konrad and Sifrid Weigel .

• Another son of "Friedrich I" must be married to an Ortlieb Friedrich, who is given in Biedermann "Frederick II" as a grandson of "Friedrich I", which can barely vote in time (HDL).

• Another daughter is probably the Irmel married Lemmel / Lemlein, as stated and justified by Herbert E. Lemmel.
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Biedermann :

• Friedrich I Holzschuher, came to the Council of Nuremberg in 1291. Ward 1309 Chief City Captain and first caretaker of St.Sebald's Church. Let the church at St.Sebald rebuild on the opposite side of the school, and was a great benefactor of the monastery Ebrach, which he gave reciprocally, even for himself and his sons in thought monastery a lay or men's benefice of the wear of the toe to Munchhofen he asserted that he or his would have their own dwelling for themselves and their servants, and would enjoy much liberation from the ordinary obligation of other Conversorum if they wished to turn themselves away from the world. In 1311 he resigned his offices at Nuremberg and was accepted as a spiritual co-brother of the Cistercian Order at Ebrach. Died in 1339 on the 25th of March in Ebrach and is the last one in the monastery church on the St.

• Wife Gutta Stromerin von Reichenbach, Mr. Conrad Stromers of Reichenbach, Senatoris and Baumeisters to Nuremberg, then a born Farnbacherin daughter, Mr. Hanß Petzens left behind widow, † 1365 the 4th October as a widow, and is also a benefactress in the monastery Ebrach to bury.

• His father: Seitz Holzschuher . (Incorrect!)

• His children: Heinrich, Seifried, Gutta ∞ 1318 with Conrad Weigel .
[Biedermann panel 167]

→ The mother of Jutta Stromer mentioned here : ... Farnbacher , ∞1) with Hans Petz , ∞2) with Conrad Stromer , is not confirmed by documents.
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Ebrach certificates :

• 27.9./26.12.1309: Friedrich Holzschuher buys tithes from the monastery Ebrach in the parish of Katzwang.

• 29.3.1311: The brothers Friedrich and Heinrich Zollner sell tithes in the villages of Ampferbach and Manndorf, fiefs of the Hochstift Würzburg, to Friedrich Holzschuher and Ulrich Haller .

• 25.4./1.8./18.9.1311: The abbot of Ebrach takes Friedrich Holzschuher into the monastery and grants him a house at the monastery, which he can inhabit together with a servant, and leaves him for life income from certain goods ,

• 18.10.1311: Friedrich Holzschuher buys goods from Gundeloch and Sophia von Windeck ....

• 7.4.1313: Friedrich Holzschuher and Friedrich von Kulmbach receive for life the usufruct of goods ....

• 28.2.1314: Otto, provost of Bamberg, confirms that the Zollner brothers are selling tithing at Debring / Teberingen to Friedrich Holzschuher .

• 26.3.1315: Abbot and convent of the monastery Ebrach let the house next to the infirmary of the monastery, which he currently inhabits, as a residence for Siegfried Holzschuher because of the benefits that he and his two sons have done to the monastery and grant him a benefice. Recipients: Friedrich, Heinrich and Siegfried Holzschuher .

• Also 10.8.1317.

→ Error note: The Regesten transcript 1315 and 1317 obviously has an error: The father's name is Friedrich (and not Siegfried), and the sons are Heinrich and Siegfried.

• 23.4.1316ff: Income from goods acquired by Friedrich Holzschuher for the monastery.

• 25.5.1327: Friedrich Holzschuher confesses that the income to Münchhof granted to him by the monastery Ebrach and the annual barrel of wine from Elgersheim / Ergershaim should fall back to the monastery after his death. Only if his two sons Heinrich and Siegfried want to settle in Ebrach in the house, which was left to him by the monastery, then they should receive this income and the wine for life.

• 20.9.1330: Siegfried Holzschuher receives a confirmation letter that he has bought various items from Else von Reichelsdorf .

• 14.11.1331: Friedrich Holzschuher renounces in favor of the monastery Ebrach on certain income.

• 16.12.1366: Siegfried Holzschuher as a trustee, like his late father ....
[Internet 2012, www.mom-ca.uni-koeln, Ebrach]
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Document regesta by various authors:

• 1270: Burggraf Friedrich the Elder gives the Conrad called Waldstromer a hereditary castle in Gostenhof, the village of the burgrave. Among the witnesses: ... Heinrich and Hilpolt v. Stein , ..., Berthold and Marquard brothers called Pfinzing , Sifrid called Ebner , Friedrich called Holzschuher , our ministerials and knights.

• 1276: Friedrich and Herdegen the Holzschuher are Burgmannen the burgrave Friedrich in his castrum Kraftshof ... Witnesses: Hermann and Sifrid called the Ebener , Heinrich by the surname Groß , Conrad called by Neuenmark , Berthold called Pfinzing Schultheiß in Nuremberg, Conrad called Stromaier , Wernher called Nützel , relatives (cognati) by Friedrich Holzschuher . Sealed by Friedrich Holzschuher alone, as his brother Herdegen does not have his own seal.
[Nuremberg Yearbooks Vol. 1-2, 1834, p.45,54]

• 1276 Lehensrevers of Nuremberg citizens Friedrich and Herdegen Holzschuher as bruggräfliche Burgmannen in Kraftshof. Witness, among others: Cunradus dictus de Novo Foro .

• 1309: Friedrich Holzschuher sells a house. Among the witnesses: Otto Muffel .
[Hirschmann, Muffel, MVGN 41 p.265, 283]

• 1278: Herr Herdegen von Grindelach sells the village Flechsdorf ... Witnesses: the knights and citizens in Nuremberg Hermann called Groß called by Stein , Friedrich Holzschuher , Sifrid called Ebener , Chunrad called Stromair , Marquard called Pfinzinc , Cunrad called Vorchtlin .

• mentioned in Nuremberg in 1282 (without details): Conrad von Neumarkt , Weigelin his brother, Friedrich called Holzschuher , Ulrich called Turbrech , Marquard called Pfinzing , and Heinrich Vorchtlin , brother of Conrad.

• 1291: Friedrich Holzschuher steps down a part of his garden on the Pegnitz, between the Vorchtelins garden and the Wigelins garden and tower. Among the witnesses: Sifrid Ebner , Herdegen Holzschuher , Chunrat Stromer ; consulted were also a "newable customers", namely the Leupolt Holzschuher and Chunrat the Ysenmann .
[Nuremberg Yearbooks Vol. 1-2, 1834, p.57 / 58.67,90]

• Friedrich Holzschuher , 1277-1300 (until 1314 Schöffe, until 1331), (son of Heinrich II), ∞ Jutta Graf .
[Scharr: citizen of Nuremberg in the 13th century, Gen.Jb.Bd.3 1963]

• First documented in 1277, together with his father (without first name) and his brother Herdegen as a witness.

→ A Urk. Of 1269 (Gatterer) belongs to the year 1296; Several documents from 1270 to 1297 mentioning him are fakes.

• 1284 (?): Sifrid Ebner , Heinrich Vorchtel , and the brothers Friedrich, Herdegen and Leupold Holzschuher with the consent of their wives (without names) commit themselves to the Würzburg Johanniter Hospital for the sake of their salvation for payments from the income from their vineyards near Würzburg.

• In 1291 he exchanges a lawn with his garden at the Pegnitz, which was used to build the city wall in 1321.

• 1300, 1309 Carer of St.Sebald.

• called in 1302 among the Zeidlers.

• First mentioned in 1303 together with his son Heinrich.

• 1303, 1314 Schöffe in Nuremberg.

• 1309 patron and spiritual co-brother (converse) of the monastery Ebrach, in which he enters in 1311 as a monastic brother with his own dwelling.

• 23.3.1318 he and his wife Jutta (nee Count) of son-in-law Sifrid Weigel, among others, buy the bailiwick of the court in Wolkersdorf and transfer it to the monastery Ebrach.

• 20.3.1339 died in Ebrach.

• 1303/1313: Ulrich Haller and Friedrich Holzschuher , both citizens of Nuremberg, receive 2 tithes in Ampferbach, which Windeck has renounced.
[Internet database 2013 Hochstift Würzburg, Lehenbuch 1303-1313]
[23.3.1318 see StadtA Nbg online]

→ Wives :

• Gatterer states that he was married to Jutta Stromer , daughter of Conrad Stromer "before the preachers" from his second marriage to (Elle) Varrenbacher . That can not be true in time.

• 1308 in the will of Conrad Graf : Friedrich Holzschuher with his wife Jutta, sister of Conrad Graf .

• March 23, 1918: Friedrich Holzschuher and his wife Jutta, in Nuremberg, have bought the bailiwick of the court in Wolkersdorf from their son-in-law Sifrid Weigel and transferred it to the monastery Ebrach.
[Adalbert Scharr: Friedrich I Holzschuher and his wife Jutta Graf. In: Bl.f.fränk.Fk. Vol. (1965) pp. 144-147.]

→ The marriage shown here with Jutta Graf does not exclude a previous marriage with Jutta Stromer ; The ancestor lists, which indicate Jutta Graf as the mother of the children of Friedrich Holzschuher, are probably wrong. Of course, Jutta Stromer can not be the daughter of Conrad Stromer "before the preachers", but at the most his sister, ie daughter of the older Conrad Stromer, who was married to an esler (HDL).

→ WvStromer [letter 1973] informs that the marriage mentioned in genealogies by Friedrich Holzschuher with Jutta Stromer could not be documented. However, a schipping Stromer-Holzschuher in the first half or mid-14th century. veryprobably, for two reasons: (1) Around this time Holzschuher's trading book enters the Stromer family archive, for which the reason is best seen in a corresponding marriage; (2) In the eastern choir of Nuremberg Sebaldskirche can be found in the window of the Stromeir to the Golden Rose at the couple, which kneels about midway above the arms, each a small coat of arms Stromeir and Holzschuher: the window is according to Kirchenfensterrestaurator Gottlieb Frenzel to about 1375-1380 date, so that a marriage Stromeir-Holzschuher must have existed before this time.
[FF8144]

• In 1296 the Bamberg bishop mortgages the Nurembergers Friedrich Holzschuher and Heinrich Vorchtel for the debts incurred by his church and tithes, including the Hofmarken Neunkirchen am Brand and Erlangen.
[W. Schultheiß: Money and Financial Transactions ... p.64]

Regesten zu Gerhaus Holzschuher:
→ In AL Rusam this Gerhaus Holzschuher is regarded as the sister of Heinrich and Seifried Holzschuher (* approx. 1275/80). Then Seifried Holzschuher in El. Weigel married his niece. - In principle, that would work, but it can hardly be old in age. In terms of age, she would have to be a daughter of Heinrich Holzschuher ∞ v.Gründlach. (HDL)

Regesten zu Irmel (Holzschuher):
• To the parents of Irmel Lemblin:
Herbert E. Lemmel ["Origins" p.32f footnote 73 and "Marriage circle" p.85 table 5] gives arguments that Irmel Lemblin is a born Holzschuher , namely a daughter of Friedrich Holzschuher and his wife (Jutta?) Stromer , daughter of Conrad Stromer and (Kunigunde?) Esler .

→ Although some of Helemmel's arguments are incorrect because of his erroneous identification of the Lampert and Lemlein families, there are good arguments in favor of the correctness of this assignment, which can not be considered "secured" (HEL) but likely (HDL). This is supported by a number of documents in which Lemlein and Holzschuher appear as witnesses for each other as well as the typical Holzschuher first names (Fritz, Saiz, Heinrich) of the Irmel sons. Comp. Hans-Dietrich Lemmel: Nuremberg Lemlein in the 14th century, Bl. F. German provincial 1984th

Died:
Katharinenkapella of the Monastery

Friedrich married Stromer, Jutta von Reichenbach about 1275 in Nürnberg, Nürnberg, Bayern, Germany. Jutta (daughter of Stromer, Conrad von Reichenbach and Esler, Sofie) was born between 1255 and 1260 in Bamberg, Bamberg, Bayern, Germany; died on 4 Oct 1365 in Ebrach, Bamberg, Bayern, Germany. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

Notes:

From Hans-Dietrich Lemmel:

Merklin Pfinzing - mayor in Nuremberg
◆ Parents: Sifrid Pfincinch and Österhild Bigenot

(* about? 1217), † 1278 in Nuremberg

1263-1274 mentioned (Nürnb.Urk'buch). 1274 mayor. In 1274 he arranged for mutual duty exemption between Nuremberg and Mainz.

∞ (about 1240) with Els Isolt N683

(* about? 1220)

her parents: Bertold Isolt N684 , (* about? 1195), † before 1266
1258/65 mayor. His successor in 1276 is (his son-in-law) Merklin Pfinzing . [Miracles p.58] See Pfin-20 / Is ; ∞ with leukardis .... Nm99 , (* about? 1200).

Children:
1. (Elisabeth) Pfinzing N666 , (* about? 1240)

∞ with Ropold / Rapoto Gewsmyd N665

(* about? 1230)

1270-1288 in Nuremberg. See Gsm-21 / r

2. Adelheid Pfinzing No92 , (* about? 1242)

∞ with Conrad von Neumarkt N092

(* about? 1235), † 9.7.1296 in Nbg St.Kath

1260 Brothers Conradus and Wigelinus de Novo Foro. 1276 mayor Nuremberg. 1295 founder. See Weig-22 / e1

his father: Ulrich von Neumarkt N091 , (* about? 1205)
1259 Ulricus de Novo Foro. Probably father of the brothers Chunrad and Wigelin. See Weig-21 / i

3. Berthold Pfinczing, (* about? 1245) - mayor in Nuremberg, see Pfin-22 / a

4. Hedwig Pfinzing Nm42 , (* 1247), † 1294
Abbess St. Clara.

5. Marquard, (* about? 1250) - mayor in Nuremberg, see Pfin-22 / m

Regesten:
• The imperial city of Nuremberg had hardly gained security under King Rudolf against the Duke of Bavaria and the burgrave when we found Merklin Pfinzing as the royal mayor and chairman of the court (1276). He died soon thereafter, but his sons Bertold and Markward held the office of the Schultheißenamt after each other in 1281-90, followed by Bertold's son-in-law Konrad Esler in 1290-1316 .
[Miracle p.57]

• 1263: Siboto Pfinzing and Merclin Pfinzing , citizens of Nuremberg.

• 1269: Marquard Pfinzing and Conrad Forchtlin , Provisors of the Maria Magdalena Monastery in Nuremberg.
[Nuremberg Yearbooks Vol. 1-2 p.38,44]

• 1265: Siboto Phinzingus , Merclinus frater eius, first and second in a series of witnesses.
[Nürnberger document 411, Heilsbronner documents Nr.117. - Note from M.Keßler 2014]

• Marquard Pfinzing , Urk. 1265-1273, 1274 mayor, † 1278.

• Brother of Sibot.

• ∞ (?) With daughter of the mayor Berthold Isolt gen. Provost .
[A.Scharr: The ans. Citizen of Nuremberg, in: Gen.Jb. Vol.3 1963 p.14]

• Merklin Phinzing (brother of Siboto) 1264-1274; In 1264 he arranged a mutual duty exemption with Mainz; 1274 mayor.

• G.Wunder suspects that the mayor Bertold Isolt was his father-in-law, which brought both the Schultheißenamt and the first name Bertold into the Pfinzing family.

• His sons: Berthold and Marquard, both part-time mayors.

• A daughter Agnes (sister of the mayor Berthold Pfinzing and alleged wife of Konrad Groß) is dropped.
[Miracles p.36,58]

• 1269 Witnesses: ... milites, then Marquardus Pfinzing , Konrad Strohmayer , Albertus Ebener , Friedrich Ungelter , Hermann Stainer , citizens of Nurenberch.
[History Heilsbronn Bd.2, digital on the Internet 2015]

• 1274 Reichs-Schultheiß in Nuremberg, † around 1278. ∞ with ... Isolt gen.Probst .
[B.Aign: AL Zinn, Gen.Jahrbuch Vol.45 / 46 2008]

• ∞ around 1260 with Els Isolt [AL Pusch, DFA 27 1964]

→ This marriage date can not be correct. (HDL)

→ In some genealogies another daughter born around 1250 is mentioned, who married the jury member Heinrich Eisvogel . After the kingfisher life data, this Pfinzing daughter must have been born later, probably around 1275. I suspect therefore that she is not the daughter of the elder but daughter of the younger Marquard Pfinzing. (HDL)

• Biedermann gives Merklin an incorrect father (Berthold I) and no children.

[Biedermann panel 393]

Regesta to Els Isolt:
• Your first name Els loud [AL Pusch, DFA 27 1964]

Regesten zu (Elisabeth) Pfinzing:
• Elisabeth Pfinzing , husband of Mr. Rappold Geuschmid, anno 1270.
[Biedermann plaque 394] Here mistakenly stated Berthold II as father.

Regesten zu Adelheid Pfinzing:
• Adelheid born. Pfinzing , wife of the mayor Conrad v.Neumarkt .
[Walter Fries, MVGN Vol.25 (1924) p.9]

Regesten to Hedwig Pfinzing:
• Hedwig Pfinzing , a sister of the mayor Berthold Pfinzing , was elected the second Abbess of the Nuremberg St. Clara Monastery in 1280, † 1294.
[Biedermann Tafel 394] Here mistakenly indicated as the daughter of Berthold II.

Merklin married Isholt, Els about 1240 in Nürnberg, Nürnberg, Bayern, Germany. Els (daughter of Isolt, Bertold and Leukardis, N.N.) was born about 1220 in Nürnberg, Nürnberg, Bayern, Germany; died in DECEASED in Nürnberg, Nürnberg, Bayern, Germany. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

Other Events and Attributes:

• Occupation: Garment Tailor and Citizen of Nürnberg

Notes:

Heinrich Holzschuher H006 – Alderman in Nuremberg
Parents: Holz-20/a Heinrich Holzschuher H004, Anna v.Mayenthal H125

(* about ?1215), † probably 1278

In Nuremberg. 1242-1279, partly together with his four sons. Several times the only civil witness in documents of the von Gründlach family.

∞ (about ?1240/45) with (Elisabeth?) v.Gründlach N589

(* about ?1220)

her father: Lupold v.Gründlach H089, (* about ?1180)
1226/1246 documented. Reich Ministerials. See Grdl-20/a

Children:
1. Heinrich, (* about ?1245) - in Nuremberg, see Holz-22/a

2. Geuda clogs H011, (* about ?1250)

∞ (about ?1270) with Berthold Pfinczing N586

(* around ?1245), † after 1322 in Nuremberg

In Nuremberg, mentioned 1281-1322, 1281-1288 mayor. 1304/07 mentioned in the action book of the clogs. Most recently in 1322 by King Ludwig Arbitrator about the Jews. See Pfin-22/a

his parents: Merklin Pfinzing N588, (* around ?1215), † around 1278 in Nuremberg
1263-1274 mentioned (Nuremberg Urk'buch). 1274 mayor. In 1274 he agreed mutual duty-free travel between Nuremberg and Mainz. See Pfin-21/a; ∞ (about ?1245) with Els Isolt N683, (* about ?1220).

3. Friedrich, (* about ?1250) - alderman in Nuremberg, see Holz-22/b

4. Herdegen, (* about ?1250/1255) - cloth merchant in Nuremberg, see Holz-22/c

5. Leupold, (* about ?1255/1260) - in Nuremberg, see Holz-22/e

6. Mechthild Holzschuher H016, (* about ?1255)

∞ with Hermann Ebner N725

(* around ?1250), † March 17, 1312 in Nuremberg

Mentioned in Nuremberg in 1270/1296. See Ebnr-22/e

his father: Hermann Ebner Ng29, (* about ?1210)
1251 witness in a document of the Bishop of Würzburg. See Ebnr-21/a

7. Alheit Holzschuher Ha27, (* about ?1245/1260), † before 1315
to blessed porten

8. Heidwig Holzschuher Ha28, (* about ?1245/1260), † before 1315
to blessed porten

Regesture:
• Heinrich Holzschuher, citizen of Nuremberg, 1242-1279 often mentioned. His sons Friedrich, Herdegen, Lupold and Heinrich are repeatedly attested as brothers. These two first names came into the Holzschuher family through his brothers-in-law, Herdegen and Lupold v.Gründlach.

• 1242: Heinrich Holzschuher is a witness after the Würzburg canons F. and A. von Gründlach and the secular Lupold von Gründlach.

• 1246: Herdegen von Gründlach donated an estate to the Teutonic Order; the noble witnesses are followed by the citizens of Herdegen Schieg, Meinwart and H.Holzschuech.

• 1271: Herdegen von Gründlach is the main founder of the Frauenaurach monastery. He and his son Herdegen head the Witnesses, followed by Heinrich Holtschuher as the last and only citizen.

• Around 1279: Knight Herdegen von Gründlach donated income to the Heilsbronn monastery for his and his deceased wife Irmentrud Seelenheil. Witnesses: Liupold von Gründlach, Bamberg canon, and as the last and only citizen H. Holtscuher.

→ The wife of Heinrich Holzschuher and mother of the 4 sons is a daughter of Lupold von Gründlach, mentioned in 1226/1246.
[Miracle p.61]

→ The brothers Herdegen, Lupold and Friedrich are given by Biedermann and Gatterer as sons of Seifried Holzschuher, which according to Wunder is not correct.

• Two daughters: Alheit and Heidwig zu Seligenporten, † before 1315. Mentioned in 1315 as sisters of Herdegen.
[StadtA Nbg online]

• Heinrich II Holzschuher 1242-1278 (son of Heinrich I), ∞ ... von Gründlach.
[Scharr: Citizens of Nuremberg in the 13th century, Gen.Jb.Bd.3 1963]

• Heinrich Holzschuher, garment tailor and citizen of Nuremberg, mentioned 1242-1279, ∞ around 1242 in Nuremberg with Elisabeth(?) von Gründlach. Son: Herdegen.
[AL Pusch DFA 27 1964]

• 1256, 1263, 1278 Heinricus Holzschuher, citizen of Nuremberg, witness, 1263 together with Arnold Holzschuher.
[Regesta Boicarum Autographa ad annum usque MCCC, Vol.2 1823 S,177; Vol.3 1825 p.91, 190; Vol.4 1828 p.61. - According to Gerhard Lemmel 1984.]

• 1263 under the Nuremberg judges: Cunrad Forchtlin, Heinrich called Holtschuch, Arnold Holtschuher, and others.
[Nuremberg Yearbooks Vol.1-2 p.35]

• March 24, 1269: The brothers Conradus et Wigelinus de Novo Foro, cives in Mürnberg, as feudal bearers of imperial ministeriales. Witnesses include: Heinrich and Arnolt Holzschuher.
[Hirschmann, Muffle, MVGN 41 p.264]

• In 1258 he received a house with a pond in the village of Hausen as a fief from Bishop Berthold von Bamberg.

• 1263 judges and court assessor of the citizens in Nuremberg.
[Biedermann, plate 166, but there attributed to the father of the same name]
[1258 also: Nuremberg yearbooks vol.1-2 p.34]

• Heinrich Holzschuher, documented 1231-1279 in Nuremberg, garment tailor, cloth merchant, judge.
[B.Aign: AL Zinn, Gen.Yearbook Vol.45/46 2008]

→ G.Wunder concludes from several documents in which Heinrich Holzschuher is related to the Reichsministerialen family von Gründlach (1242, 1246, 1271, around 1279) that his wife (and mother of the four sons) mentioned a daughter of 1226-1246 must have been Lupold von Gründlach.
[Miracle, MVGN 49 p.61f]

• Frotscher states another daughter: Mechtild ∞ with Hermann Ebner.

→ This Heinrich is missing from Biedermann. It must obviously be inserted between the two Heinrichs that Biedermann states: Heinrich I ∞ Mayenthal, and Heinrich II ∞1) Ebner ∞2) Ortlieb. - Biedermann states a daughter Kunigunde for Heinrich II, who married Werner Junior Grundherr in 1289.

Comments on Geuda Holzschuher:
→ See the note under Perthold Pfinczing! If she is the mother of Perthold Pfinczing's children (and not a younger second wife), then she cannot be Herdegen Holzschuher's daughter, as variously stated, but at most his sister. (HDL)

→ Your first name is not documented. According to Biedermann [G.Wunder p.35] the first name is: Geuda.

Gestures to Mechthild Holzschuher:
• Mechtild Holzschuher, wife of Hermann Ebner, T.v. Leupold Holzschuher ∞ Mechtild Grundherr.
[Biedermann Plate 167 Holzschuher and Plate 22 Ebner]
→ In terms of time, Leupold Holzschuher cannot be Mechtild's father but at most sister. (HDL)

Heinrich married von Gründlach, Ellisabeth between 1240 and 1245 in Nürnberg, Nürnberg, Bayern, Germany. Ellisabeth (daughter of von Gründlach, Lupold) was born about 1220 in Nürnberg, Nürnberg, Bayern, Germany; died in DECEASED in Nürnberg, Nürnberg, Bayern, Germany. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

Other Events and Attributes:

• Life Event: Between 1283 and 1313, Nürnberg, Nürnberg, Bayern, Germany; Juror (Schöffe)
• Possessions: 1313, Hersbruck, Nürnberger Land, Bayern, Germany; Buys Meadow

Notes:

From Hans-Dietrich Lemmel:

Conrad Stromer - Schöffe in Nuremberg
◆ Parents: Conrad von Reichenbach gen. Stromer and a (daughter) Stromer
◆ (* about? 1230), † before 20.7.1319
◆ 1283-1313 1291 Schöffe in Nuremberg.
◆ In 1313 he buys a meadow near Hersbruck.
◆ ∞1) (about? 1255) with (Sofie?) Esler who was (* about? 1235). Her first name is not Kunigunde. 11 children.
⁃ Her father: Konrad Esler, (* 1215) documented in 1253 in Bamberg. 1276 with his son Konrad citizen to Bamberg.
◆ ∞2) (about? 1300) with Kunigunde / Anna von Laufenholz who was (* about? 1280)
⁃ Her parents: Fritz von Laufenholz, (* about? 1250), father of Friedrich and Kunigunde / Anna; ∞ with Anna Esler, (* about? 1255)

Children:
from 1st marriage:
1 Jutta, (* about? 1255/1260) - ∞ Holzschuher.
2 Alheit Stromeir, (* about? 1260)
⁃ ∞ with Hermann von Stein who was (* about? 1255)
⁃ 1319, 1320, 1326 in documents. See Stn-22 / x
3 Heinrich, (* about? 1270) - in Nuremberg on the Salzmarkt, see Stro-23 / e

4. Agnes Stromer N895 , (* about? 1280)

∞1) with Heinrich Ortlieb N250

(* about? 1270), † after 1339

1312 Schöffe in Nuremberg. See Ortl-22 / h

his father: ... Ortlieb N251 , (* about? 1230)
Maybe father of Hermann, Kune, Heinrich, Jakob? 1261 Ortlieb , citizens in Nuremberg. See Ortl-20 / a

∞2) after 1343 with Götz Scheffein No95

(* about? 1285) in Eger

Immigrated from Eger to Nuremberg in 1313.

5. Conrad Stromeir, (* about? 1285) - "the long, before the preachers", see Stro-23 / l

from 2nd marriage:
6. ..., (* about? 1300) - ∞ Burgheimer, see Stro-23 / lm

7. Hans Stromeir N816 , (* about? 1303)
in Hungary

∞3) with Catharina Weigel Ni91

(* about? 1310)

her father: Weigel Ni90 , (* about? 1280)
"Mr. Weigel called by Neumarkt", his daughter Catharina ∞ with Hans Stromer See Weig-23 / x

8. Ulrich, (* about? 1305) - in Nuremberg on the Zotenberg, see Stro-23 / m

NOTES:
◆ 6.10.1274 among the witnesses of a German Order certificate: Marquardus cognomine Phinzinc , scultetus in Nurenberch, Cunradus de Kudorf , Heinricus de Richenbach , Heinricus his son, Cunrad Stromeir . [StA Nbg Order of the Knights Urk.4693. - Online 2017]
◆ 1276: Friedrich and Herdegen the Holzschuher are Burgmannen the burgrave Friedrich in his castrum Kraftshof ... Witnesses: Hermann and Sifrid called the Ebener , Heinrich by the surname Groß , Conrad called by Neuenmark , Berthold called Pfinzing Schultheiß in Nuremberg, Conrad called Stromaier , Wernher called Nützel , relatives (cognati) by Friedrich Holzschuher . Sealed by Friedrich Holzschuher alone, as his brother Herdegen does not have his own seal.
◆ 1278: Herr Herdegen von Grindelach sells the village Flechsdorf ... Witnesses: the knights and citizens in Nuremberg Hermann called Groß called by Stein , Friedrich Holzschuher , Sifrid called Ebener , Chunrad called Stromair , Marquard called Pfinzinc , Cunrad called Vorchtlin .
◆ 1291: Friedrich Holzschuher steps down a part of his garden on the Pegnitz, between the Vorchtelins garden and the Wigelins garden and tower. Among the witnesses: Sifrid Ebner , Herdegen Holzschuher , Chunrat Stromer ; consulted were also a "newable customers", namely the Leupolt Holzschuher and Chunrat the Ysenmann. [Nuremberg Yearbooks Vol. 1-2, 1834, p.54,57 / 58,90]
◆ First documented in 1283 as a witness.
◆ Mentioned in 1295 in the will of Hermann von Stein.
◆ Mentions his wife Sofie in 1306.
◆ 1311 witnessed with his brother Hermann.
◆ In 1313 he buys a meadow near Hersbruck. v[Scharr: Waldstromer p.34, 35; there also more details]
◆ 19./25.11.1290: Durinhart v.Beerbach sells his goods to Wetzendorf, Heinzendorf, Kezenhof etc. to Conrad and Adelhaid from the Neuer Markt, and entrusts Chunrad Stromeyr and Gramlieb Esler with two estates to Rückersdorf.
◆ Witnesses: Chunrad the Eseler , Wolfel the Saxon , Chunrat the Stromeyr , Henry the Young Rose , Berchtold Pfinzing , Wolfel the Hennangel , Heinrich Stromeyr and others. [StA Nbg Rst.Nbg. St. Catherine Monastery Urk.1. - Online 2017]
◆ He has eleven children from first eleven. [G.Wunder: "Pfintzing" MVGN 49 p. 46]
◆ 1310: King Henry VII orders the Hoerauf , the Cunradus Stromayr , Ott and the other forest masters and Zeidlern of the Reichswald on both sides of the Pegnitz, to make an oath, to brine the Reichswald, which had been devastated by fire and deforestation. [Internt 2017, Nbg.Geh.Archiv, 7-color alfabet]
◆ Conrad Stromer , Senator and master builder Nuremberg, ∞ with the widow of Hanß Petz , a born Farnbacher . Daughter: Gutta Stromer, ∞ with Friedrich Holzschuher . [Biedermann Tafel 167 Holzschuher] → This marriage Farnbacher is not confirmed otherwise.

Regesten zu (Sofie?) Esler:
◆ Her first name is given in Biedermann with Kunigunde, which is the first name of Conrad Stromer's second wife. [Scharr: Forest Streamers p.35]
◆ At [AL Pusch, DFA 27 1964] their parents are given: Konrad Esler ∞ Anna Pfinzing. - That's wrong for a generation. (HDL)

Regesto to Kunigunde / Anna v.Laufenholz:
◆ (Kunigunde) v.Laufenholz ∞ with Conrad Stromer , 4 children. She is the sister of Friedrich v.Laufenholz. [Scharr: Forest Streamers p.35]
◆ Conrad Stromer ∞2) with Anna von.Laufenholz , 5 children. She is the daughter of Fritz v.Lauffenholz ∞ Anna Eßlerin. [Biedermann panel 460B Stromer]

Regesten to Alheit Stromeir:
[Scharr: Forest Streamers p.38]

Regesta to Agnes Stromer:
• Agnes Stromer , TV Conrad Stromer ∞ Kunigunde Esler , ∞ with Heinrich Ortlieb, he † 1343 ..
[geneage graphics 2015]

• 1350: Her and her husband Götz Scheffein from Eger donated a house to Charles IV, which her son sold to Ulman Stromer in 1368 .
[WvStromer: "Assembly" MVGN 52 p.58]

Regesten zu Götz Scheffein:
• Götz Scheffein immigrated from Eger to Nuremberg in 1313. In 1350 he is one of the main beneficiaries of the extermination of the Jews. Charles IV gives him and his wife Agnes two Jewish houses between Hauptmarkt and Obstmarkt.
[Stromer. The metropolis in the uprising against Charles IV, MVGN 65 1978 p. 67]

Regesta to Hans Stromeir:
• Hans Stromer, was in Hungary, † 1350 probably without children.

• ∞1) Swiss chard ; ∞2) v.Wilhelmsdorf ; ∞3) Catharina Weiglin , Tv Mr. Weigel called v.Neumarkt .
[Biedermann Tafel 460B] Here also further.

• "before 1390 in the Carpathian region" [Stromer: Hochfinanz]

Conrad married Esler, Sofie about 1255 in Nürnberg, Nürnberg, Bayern, Germany. Sofie (daughter of Esler, Konrad) was born about 1235 in Bamberg, Bamberg, Bayern, Germany; died before 1300 in Nürnberg, Nürnberg, Bayern, Germany. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

Notes:

Konrad Esler N600 - in Bamberg, Schultheiss Neumarkt
Father: Eslr-20 / s Conrad? Asinarius Na75

(* about? 1215)

1253-1275 two brothers of the same name in Bamberg. 1254 mayor in Neumarkt.

Children:
1. (Sofie?) Esler N612 , (* about? 1235)
Your first name is not Kunigunde. 11 children.

∞ (about? 1255) with Conrad Stromer N578

(* about? 1230), † before 20.7.1319

1283-1313 1291 Schöffe in Nuremberg. In 1313 he buys a meadow near Hersbruck. See Stro-22 / a

his parents: Conrad von Reichenbach gen. Stromer N579 , (* about? 1205)
Conrad v.Reichenbach calls himself after his wedding " Stromer" (urk for the first time around 1242). 1267 in Schwabach. Citizen Nuremberg. 33 children from 3 marriages. See Stro-21 / aoo ; ∞ (about? 1230) with (daughter) Stromer N580 , (* about? 1210)
See Stro-21 / a .

he ∞2) (about? 1300) with Kunigunde / Anna v.Laufenholz N851

(* about? 1280)

2. Rudger, (* about? 1235/1240) - in Nuremberg, see Eslr-22 / a

3. Klara Esler N783 , (* about? 1245)

∞ with Fritz Kudorf N782

(* about? 1240), † 1333

ext. from 1270 See Kudf-22 / e

his father: Konrad von Küdorf Ni10 , (* 1215)
Ritter, 1261 in Nuremberg. See Kudf-21 / e

4. ... Esler N685 , (* about? 1247)
1317: "Konrad Eseler's sister" has 2 sons: Franz and Konrad. Is she a married Gundloch?

∞ with Gundloch Nb59

(* about? 1240)

1296/98 Mr. Withigo / Weyker and Mr. Gundloch his brother. See Gund-21 / e

his father: Gundeloch Nb60 , (* about? 1195)
1231 one of the "domestici" (= "housemates") of the Bamberg cathedral chapter. The same ?: Gundloch 1249-1262 Mayor of Bamberg. See Gund-20 / e

5. Konrad, (* about? 1250) - "the good judge", "the founder", see Eslr-22 / b

6. Gramlieb, (* about? 1257) - in Nuremberg, see Eslr-22 / c

7. ... Esler N604 , (* 1260), † 1310
Sister of the mayor Conrad Esler .

∞ (about? 1282) with Siboto Pfinzing N603

(* about? 1255)

1278, 1282, 1288 mentioned. 1317, 1319 Named. See Pfin-22 / s

his father: Siboto Pfinzing N602 , (* about? 1215)
1251-1266 (Nuremberg Urk'buch) among the first citizens and in the citizens' representation ("universitas civium") mentioned. See Pfin-21 / s ∞1) before 1251 with Anna Ebner N206 (* about? 1230)
∞2) (about 1258) with ... .... H865 (* about? 1235)

he ∞2) (about? 1311) with ... .... N605

(* about? 1280)

unknown second wife of Siboto

8. Gisela Esler N629 , (* about? 1265), † after 1339
sister of the mayor Conrad Esler .

∞ (about? 1287) with Heinz Groß N630

(* about? 1250), † zw 1314/1317

In Nuremberg, first documented 1276-1306. Death between 1314-1317. See Gros-22 / a

his father: Heinz Groß Ni16 , (* about? 1220)
"The grindy Heinz". 1289 in Nuremberg. ∞ with Anna Straß / Strezz from Jahrsdorf. See Gros-21 / a

he ∞1) (about? 1273) with Sofie v. Vestenberg N631

(* about? 1250), † about? 1286

 Children: 1st Bartholomew Great N105 , * (about? 1288), † 1358.2. Philipp Groß N774 , * (about? 1290), † after 1355.3. Franz Pfinzing Nh44 , * (about? 1380).
Regesten:
Summary : In 1253/1275 there are two brothers of the same name in Bamberg called Conrad Eseler , in Latin Chunradus Asinarius . (The terms "older / younger" are not to be understood as father and son.) In Bamberg you have a house "Im Bach" Nr.2001, Vorderer Bach Nr.5. The brothers are called "filii Asinarii" . Her father's name was Asinarius / Eseler .

• Presumably it is the descendants of the two Conrad, which are distinguished from 1392 as black donkey and red rot.

• 1253: Chunradus Asinarius in Bamberg. [Urk.Regesten z.Gesch. the cities of the Hochstift Würzburg 1172-1413, Regesta Herbipolensia III S.9]

• 1255: Chunradus et Chunradus filii Asinarii . [19.BHVB, Bamberg 1856]

• 1264: Cunrado et Cunrado fratribus, dictis Asinariis , civibus ibidem. [Regesta ... Boica ... vol.III, 1825]

• 5.12.1275 immunity representatives: Cunradus senior Asinarius ; Cunradus asinarius antiquus; Conrade Eseler the parent. - 19.11.1276 citizens.

• 5.12.1275 Representatives of Immunities: Cunradus iunior frater eius.
[Officials in the city court and in the immunities in Bamberg 1300-1500, in: Claudia Esch, between institution and individual, civil space for action in medieval Bamberg. Ergon-Verlag Würzburg 2016]
[Notes Fr.Zö. 2018]

• 1254 Konrad Eseler mayor in Neumarkt / OPf.
[Gewin: Bloom and decline of high nobility genders in the Middle Ages, 1955, p.176]

→ Gewin sets this Schultheiß equal with Chunrad v.Dietenhofen , who takes the surname Eseler . Why??? The Nuremberg mayor of 1254 is likely to be more identical to the Bamberg Cunradus Asinarius , whose eponymous son ("the good judge") mayor in Nuremberg and from 1295 also mayor in Neumarkt. (HDL)

• 1253, 1264: two brothers of the same name Cunrad filii Asinarii cives Bambergenses.
[Arneth p.242]

• 1264: The dean and provost of St.Jakob Eberhard of Würzburg records that he and the heirs of the noble, honorable and esteemed brothers Cunrad and Cunrad Asinarius (viris discretis et honestis nobis dilectis Cunrado et Cunrado fratribus Asinariis), citizens of Babenberch with the consent of Prince-Bishop Berthold (Count of Leiningen) and the permanent Vicar of St.Maria Albert (von Rindsmaul), a garden at their house, the extent of which he had confined to fences, as a permanent possession.

• It is the house of the Eseler , Nr.2001, Vorderer Bach 5. - Later here: At the time of Bishop Wulfing (1304-1318) Cunz donkey with his wife Alheid.
[H.Paschke: The brook. Festschrift, Bamberg 1956, p. 8]

→ About the Father of Konrad Esler :

• His father: Chunrad v.Dietenhofen gen.Esler . [Threaded]

• Documented since 1253 in Bamberg. 1264 together with his eponymous brother Konrad. [Miracle "Pfintzing the Elders" p.62]

• Miracle does not name a father for this Konrad Esler. He considers Gewin's derivation of the Esler from the Dietenhofen to be outlandish.

• Herbert E. Lemmel ["On the tradition of the donkeys / donkeys in Bamberg and Nuremberg", Genealogy Jg.15 Nov.1966 S.433ff] argues against miracles and for Gewin. The v.Dietenhofen lead a donkey's head in the coat of arms.

• Conrad Esler is through his three children Conrad (whose daughter ∞ with Hermann Eisvogel) , Kunigunde (∞ with Conrad Stromeir) and Rudiger (whose daughter ∞ with Wolfram Stromeir) the progenitor of a tribe Stromer-Eisvogel and others, the trade and mining in the Carpathian region operate.
[Stromer, Hochfinanz, 1970]

→ Error note:

• Conrad Ass's father-in-law is the Bamberger Kämmerer Hartmann .
[Herbert E. Lemmel, "Contribution ....", 116. Ber. d. Hist. Association Bamberg 1980, p.117 = correction to previous publications]

• The chamberlain Hartmann is mentioned in documents 1268-1272.
[Herbert E. Lemmel, "... Gundloch ...", Genealogy Bd.8 Feb.1967 p.581]

→ Hartmann as father-in-law of Conrad donkey should therefore hardly fit in time! (HDL)

Regesten zu (Sofie?) Esler:
• Her first name is given in Biedermann with Kunigunde, which is the first name of Conrad Stromer's second wife.
[Scharr: Forest Streamers p.35]

• At [AL Pusch, DFA 27 1964] their parents are given: Konrad Esler ∞ Anna Pfinzing. - That's wrong for a generation. (HDL)

Regesto to Kunigunde / Anna v.Laufenholz:
• (Kunigunde) v.Laufenholz ∞ with Conrad Stromer , 4 children. She is the sister of Friedrich v.Laufenholz .
[Scharr: Forest Streamers p.35]

• Conrad Stromer ∞2) with Anna v.Laufenholz , 5 children. She is the daughter of Fritz v.Lauffenholz ∞ Anna Eßlerin .
[Biedermann panel 460B Stromer]

Regesta to Klara Esler:
[Scharr: Waldstromer, MVGN 52 p.24, but there no father specified.] Assignment as a daughter of Konrad Esler only, because it fits in time. (HDL)

Regesten zu ... Esler:
• 5.12.1317: Provost Konrad v.Giech gives the Konrad Eseler and Franz and Konrad, his sister's sons, behind the coin a pound of pennies from customs to Bamberg.
[Herbert E. Lemmel, "Gundloch," Genealogy Feb.1967]

→ Is Konrad Esler's sister married to "Mr. Gundloch behind the coin"? (So ​​adopted by Herbert E. Lemmel.) Or who else lives "behind the coin"? (HDL)

Regesten zu ... Esler:
[Miracle, MVGN 49 p.38]
Her death 1310 [AL Pusch, DFA 27 1964]

Regesta to Anna Ebner:
• Not on the board Ebner bei Biedermann.

Regesten too ... ....:
• unknown second wife of Siboto [Wunder S.41]

Regesta to Gisela Esler:
[Miracle MVGN 49 p.38] - [Scharr: Waldstromer, MVGN 52 p. 23]

Regesta to Sofie v. Vestenberg:
• For her was stated: † before 1298. Because of the second marriage of her husband Heinz Gross, she would have died shortly after 1285. (HDL)

• 10.8.1340: Jahrestagstiftung of Konrad Groß for his parents Heinrich and Suffey.
[Miracle p.39 footnote 36]