FitzHerbert, Herbert

Male 1129 - 1204  (75 years)


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  1. 1.  FitzHerbert, Herbert was born in 1129 in Brecon, Breconshire, Wales (son of FitzHerbert, Herbert and Corbet, Sibylla); died on 18 Jul 1204 in Blaenllyfni Castle, Bwlch, Breconshire, Wales; was buried after 18 Jul 1204 in Llanthony Secunda Priory, Hempsted, Gloucestershire, England.

    Other Events and Attributes:

    • FSID: K2SV-HJ7
    • Occupation: Chamberlain to King Stephen

    Notes:

    Foundation for Medieval Genealogy
    HERBERT FitzHerbert [II], son of HERBERT FitzHerbert [I] & his wife Sibyl Corbet ([1125/35]-before 18 Jul 1204)
    m LUCY of Hereford, daughter of MILES of Gloucester Earl of Hereford & his wife Sibylle de Neufmarché (before 1143-[1219/20] or after, bur Lanthony Priory, Gloucester).
    ... A manuscript in Aske’s collections names “Milo…Erle of Herforde, Lord of Bricone and of all the Forest of Done, and also Constable of England…Sibbill wiff of the seid Milo…Luce the third daughter of the seid Milo Erle…” among those buried at Lanthony Priory[636].

    Herbert & his wife had two children:
    1. REYNOLD FitzHerbert (-[1190/92]). The primary source which confirms his parentage has not yet been identified.
    2. PIERS FitzHerbert of Blaenllyfni (-before 6 Jun 1235, bur Reading).
    ... The Annals of Tewkesbury record the death "Kal Jul" [date must be inaccurate in light of the 6 Jun 1235 order cited under his son Herbert] in 1235 of “Petrus filius Hereberti” and his burial at Reading[644].
    m firstly (marriage settlement 28 Nov 1203) ALICE, daughter of ROBERT FitzRoger of Warkworth & his wife Margery de Chesney. The primary source which confirms her parentage and marriage has not yet been identified.
    m secondly as her second husband, ISABEL de Ferrers, widow of ROGER de Mortimer of Wigmore, daughter of WALKELIN de Ferrers & his wife --- (-before 29 Apr 1252, bur Lechlade). A manuscript narrating the foundation of Wigmore Abbey records that “Isabella…filia domini de Ferrers de Lechlade” was the second wife of “domini Rogeri”, adding that she became a nun “apud Lechelade” and was buried there[645]. “Rogerus de Mortuomari…et dominæ Isabellæ uxoris meæ” donated property to Kington St Michael by undated charter, witnessed by “Philippo de Mortuomari…”[646]. An order dated [Apr] 1225 delayed repayment from "Peter fitz Herbert and Isabella his wife" of a "debt of Henry de Ferrers brother of the same Isabella"[647]. King Henry III confirmed inheritance of property by "Henricus de Fraxneto" to "Petro filio Herberti et Isabelle uxori eius" dated [Jun] 1232[648].
    Piers & his first wife had two children:
    a) HERBERT FitzPiers of Blaenllyfni (-before 27 May 1248). A document dated 6 Jun 1235 records the homage of “Herbert son of Peter fitz Herbert and heir of the same” for the property “which Peter fitz Herbert held in chief and which fall to Herbert by hereditary right” to which he was granted full right[649].
    b) REYNOLD FitzPiers (-4/5 May 1286). "Reginald son of Peter" was granted rights in "demesne lands in Lechamstede, co. Berks" dated 26 Sep 1257[650].

    3. MATTHEW FitzHerbert (-[13 Jun 1230/Feb 1231]). The Red Book of the Exchequer records "Mathaeus filius Herberti" holding one knight’s fee "Stoke" in Wiltshire, and one in Devonshire from "honor Gloucestriæ", in [1210/12][651]. A letter of Henry III King of England to the bishop of Rochester, dated 13 Jun 1230, appointing him to make an assize of arms in Kent, names "Petrus filius Hereberti…Matthæus filius Hereberti" as those charged with a similar exercise in Berkshire and Wiltshire respectively[652]. Matthew, his wife and descendants are shown by Eyton but the primary sources which confirm the information have not yet been identified[653]. m (before Jun 1200) JOAN Patric, daughter of --- & his wife Mabel Patric[654] (-after 21 Feb 1231). Bracton records a claim, dated 1219, by "Robertus filius Briani, Oliuerus Auenel, Gaufridus Talebot et Adam de Dornapetona" against "Matheum filium Hereberti et Johannam uxorem eius"[655].
    Matthew & his wife had three children:
    a) HERBERT FitzMatthew (-3 or 5 Feb 1245). "Herbert son of Matthew" was granted "the manor of Warblinton, late of Robert de Curcy" dated 10 Jun 1231[656]. "Herbert son of Matthew" was granted "a weekly market…at Emeleswurth…" dated 20 Apr 1239[657]. m MILLICENT Paynell, daughter of WILLIAM Paynell of Bampton, Devon & his wife Alice Briwere (-before 1249). The Complete Peerage states that Herbert FitzMatthew married “Milicent da. and coh. of William Paynel of Bampton, Devon” but does not cite the corresponding primary source[658]. An indication of the connection between the two families is provided by the order dated 4 Feb 1228 under which Henry III King of England granted "custodiam terre et heredis Willelmi Paynel" to "Hereberto filio Mathey" and ordered the sheriff of Devon to release them to him[659]. She must have died childless before 1249 when an inquisitions after her brother’s death name his sister Aude as his heir.
    b) PETER FitzMatthew (-1255). Land recovered from "Peter son of Matthew" was regranted dated 18 Aug 1252[660].
    c) JOHN FitzMatthew (-before 19 Jan 1261). A debt of "Peter son of Matthew" was granted, to be received from "John son of Matthew brother and heir of the said Peter son of Matthew" dated 28 Dec 1256[661]. m[662] as her first husband, MARGARET de Berkeley, daughter of THOMAS de Berkeley of Berkeley, Gloucestershire & his wife Joan [de Somery]. She married secondly (before 18 Oct 1265) Ansel Basset of Winford and Saltford, Somerset.
    John & his wife had one child:
    i) MATTHEW FitzJohn (-31 May 1309). The primary source which confirms his parentage has not yet been identified. m ELEANOR, daughter of --- (-after 4 Jul 1325). The primary source which confirms her marriage has not yet been identified.

    https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/enguntdk.htm#HerbertFitzHerbertdied1204B

    Herbert married FitzMiles, Lady Lucy of GloucesterBlaenllyfni Castle, Bwlch, Breconshire, Wales. Lucy was born in 1136 in Moreton-in-Marsh, Gloucestershire, England; died in 1220 in Llanthony Secunda Priory, Hempsted, Gloucestershire, England; was buried in 1220 in Llanthony Secunda Priory, Hempsted, Gloucestershire, England. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

    Children:
    1. FitzHerbert, Sir Piers was born in 1163 in Blaenllyfni Castle, Bwlch, Breconshire, Wales; died on 1 Jun 1235 in Reading, Berkshire, England; was buried on 6 Jun 1235 in Reading, Berkshire, England.

Generation: 2

  1. 2.  FitzHerbert, Herbert was born in 1087 in Blaenllyfni Castle, Bwlch, Breconshire, Wales (son of FitzAlberic, Herbert of Winchester and de Blois, Emma); died in 1155 in Winchester, Hampshire, England.

    Other Events and Attributes:

    • FSID: 9CS3-646
    • Occupation: King's Chamberlain

    Herbert married Corbet, Sibylla. Sibylla (daughter of Corbet, Robert) was born in 1092 in Shropshire, England; died in 1157 in Blaenllyfni Castle, Bwlch, Breconshire, Wales; was buried in 1157 in Pontesbury, Shropshire, England. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]


  2. 3.  Corbet, Sibylla was born in 1092 in Shropshire, England (daughter of Corbet, Robert); died in 1157 in Blaenllyfni Castle, Bwlch, Breconshire, Wales; was buried in 1157 in Pontesbury, Shropshire, England.

    Other Events and Attributes:

    • FSID: L825-5W4

    Notes:

    Biography

    Birth and Parents
    Sibyl Corbet was the daughter of Robert Corbet of Shropshire and granddaughter of Corbet the Norman, who followed William the Conqueror from Normandy.

    Mistress of Henry I
    Mistress of HENRY I King of England, son of WILLIAM I "the Conqueror" King of England & his wife Mathilde de Flandre.
    She bore four or five of Henry's illegitimate children.

    Marriage to Herbert FitzHerbert
    Sibyl Corbet married Herhert Fitz Herbert, of Londesborough and Weaverthorpe, Yorkshire, etc, King's Chamberlain, son and heir of Herbert of Winchester.

    Death
    Sibyl died after 1157.

    Issue

    Children by Henry I, King of England
    The known children by Sibyl Corbet were Rainaud de Dunstanville, his brother William and sisters Gundred and Rohese; it is also possible, but not certain, that Sibyl was the mother of the king's illegitimate daughter Sibyl who was married to Alexander after he became king of the Scots in 1107.

    Children by her husband Herbert
    Herbert and Sibyl had three sons, Robert, Herbert, and probalby Henry.

    1.) Robert

    2.) Herbert. Sibyl's son Herbert fitzHerbert married Lucy, dau of Miles earl of Hereford. The [1125/35] birth date range estimated for her son Herbert, born from this marriage, suggests that she married after her relationship with the king.

    3.) Henry
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    Concubine #5 Sibyl Corbet, daughter of Robert Corbet of Alcester. The station as Concubine and numbered deduces her parentage as something unknown or recorded which is common during that time, outside of royal blood or court, names and vital information at all is not uncommonly recorded and verified.

    Her relationship with King Henry, as the result of her son "Reginaldus Henrici Regis filus, comes by which King Henry granted property to "Willelmo de Boterell, fillo Aliziae Corbert upon his marriage, witnessed by Nicholae fillo meao..Herberto fillo Herberti, Baldwino et Ricardo nepotibus meis, Willelmo de Vernun, Willelmo fratre meo...Hugone de Dustanville.

    She married Herbert FitzHerbert between 1115-1135. The birth range for her son, Herbert, born BEEFORE the marriage of chosen husband, Herbert FitzHerbert, suggests that she married after her relationship or use as a concubine with the King. The Pipe Roll of 1157 records a payment to "the mother of Earl Reginald" from an estate at Milenes, Sussex.

    Children:
    1. 1. FitzHerbert, Herbert was born in 1129 in Brecon, Breconshire, Wales; died on 18 Jul 1204 in Blaenllyfni Castle, Bwlch, Breconshire, Wales; was buried after 18 Jul 1204 in Llanthony Secunda Priory, Hempsted, Gloucestershire, England.


Generation: 3

  1. 4.  FitzAlberic, Herbert of Winchester was born in 1060 in Aisne, Picardie, France; died in 1130 in Winchester, Hampshire, England.

    Other Events and Attributes:

    • Appointments / Titles: Chamberlain of Scotland
    • Appointments / Titles: Chamberlain to Henry II
    • Appointments / Titles: Lord Chamberlain of King Henry I
    • Appointments / Titles: Lord of Cornwall
    • Appointments / Titles: Tenant-in-Chief (under King Henry II)
    • FSID: L759-1GL

    Notes:

    Wikipedia

    Herbert of Winchester (sometimes Herbert fitzAlberic) was an Anglo-Norman nobleman during the period following the Norman conquest of England.

    Herbert held land as an under-tenant of the Archbishop of York in the Domesday Survey of 1089. He held the office of chamberlain of the Winchester treasury during the reign of King William II of England, and the office of chancellor and treasurer under King Henry I. During William II's reign, Herbert became a tenant-in-chief, holding lands directly from the king. Herbert may have been a member of the clergy, although it is known that he was married.

    Most sources state that Herbert married Emma, half-sister of King Stephen and Henry of Blois, Bishop of Winchester, and that she was an illegitimate daughter of Stephen II, Count of Blois, Stephen's father. New research, however, suggests that Emma might have been a daughter of Hunger fitzOdin, who held lands in Dorset in the Domesday survey.

    Herbert was the father of Herbert and William. William later became Archbishop of York. The younger Herbert became chamberlain to King David I of Scotland around 1156.

    Herbert was probably dead by 1129-1130, when the Pipe Roll of 1130 records his son as owing a fine for the inheritance of his father's lands, a fine totalling over 353 marks, perhaps as much as 500. However, there is no certain record of Herbert after 1111, and it is possible that he should be considered the same person as "H. the Chamberlain", who Abbot Suger of St Denis named as an attempted assassin of Henry I in 1118, and who was punished by the king for the attempt. Suger stated that the would-be-assassin was a chamberlain whose name began with "H", and who had been close to the king and received great rewards from the king. Suger added that the king only blinded and castrated the man, which the abbot considered to be mild compared with the hanging that the man deserved. William of Malmesbury does not name the assassin either, but relates that he had custody of the royal treasury. The historian C. Warren Hollister first made the identification between "H." and Herbert, noting that there was only one chamberlain in King Henry I's reign who had a name beginning with "H". The main argument against the identification is the fact that most records considered that Herbert remained in office until close to 1129 or 1130. However, charter evidence supports the inheritance of Herbert's lands by his son before 1121.

    1 Biography
    1.1 Name
    1.2 1060 Birth
    1.3 Reported Vermandois Ancestry -probably due to the influence and number of relatives ofthe Herbertian Dynasty intermingled with the Vermandois.
    1.4 1066 Battle of Hastings -Herbert I
    1.5 1089 Domesday Survey
    1.6 Chamberlain of the Winchester Treasury
    1.7 1101 Charter
    1.8 Properties in Yorkshire and Gloucestershire
    1.9 1086 Marriage to Emma
    1.10 1100 Second Marriage to Millisent
    1.11 1129 Death
    1.12 Issue
    2 Research Notes
    2.1 UNKNOWN/UNPROVEN ANCESTRY -- DO NOT ATTACH ANY PARENTS! (OCTOBER 2014)
    3 Sources
    4 Acknowledgements
    Biography
    Per Wikipedia:

    Name
    "Herbert I of Winchester (sometimes Herbert fitzAlberic)[1] was an Anglo-Norman nobleman during the period following the Norman conquest of England. [1]

    Herbert of Winchester (also styled Herbert The Chamberlain), Chamberlain and Treasurer under Kings William II and Henry I. [2]

    Herbert "The Chamberlain" of Winchester. [3]

    1060 Birth
    Herbert was born about 1060 in Winchester, Hampshire, England. [3]

    According to Geni, without other citation, he was the son of Herbert Cornwell FitzGodwyn [3]

    The primary source which confirms Herbert FitzHenry's parentage has not yet been identified. [4]

    Reported Vermandois Ancestry
    "This very ancient family from which the chivalrous house of Herbert and other eminent houses sprang, derived originally in England from Herbert, styled Count of Vermandois, who came over at the Conquest with the first William and filled the office of Chamberlain to William Rufus. He was great-grandson of Herbert, Comte de Vermandois, the lineal descendant of Charlemagne. [5]

    He is often called a son of Piers de Vermandois, who was probably invented to provide a genealogical link to the counts of Vermandois. According to Weis, his ancestry has not been proven. Burke's Commoners, a notoriously unreliable source, says he was a great grandson of Héribert de Vermandois.[3]

    1089 Domesday Survey
    "Herbert held land as an under-tenant of the Archbishop of York in the Domesday Survey of 1089.[2] [1]

    Chamberlain of the Winchester Treasury
    He held the office of chamberlain of the Winchester treasury during the reign of King William II of England,[3] and the office of chancellor and treasurer under King Henry I.[4] [1]

    He was Chamberlain and Treasurer of England under William II and Henry I [3]

    1101 Charter
    "…Herbertus regis camerarius…" subscribed a charter dated Sep 1101 under which Bishop Herbert donated property to Norwich priory[152]. [4]

    Properties in Yorkshire and Gloucestershire
    Chamberlain of Henry I King of England. An undated charter of Thomas Archbishop of York records that "domino Herberto Camerario et filio eius" were enfeoffed with "Laudesbrough, cum Tolethorpe, Wiverthorpe cum Helperthorp et duabus Luttunis in Turgisleby" and other properties in Yorkshire and in Gloucestershire, witnessed by "…Herbertus filius…"[153].[4]

    During William II's reign, Herbert became a tenant-in-chief, holding lands directly from the king. Herbert may have been a member of the clergy, although it is known that he was married.[5][1]

    1086 Marriage to Emma
    Marriage Date Estimation: Current birth year for oldest son is 1087. Estimate marriage the year prior.

    His wife was Emma, daughter of Stephen, Earl of Blois, by Adela, daughter of William the Conqueror, and by that lady left a son and heir, Herbert Fitz-Herbert." [5]

    "Most sources state that Herbert married Emma, half-sister of King Stephen and Henry of Blois, Bishop of Winchester,[6] and that she was an illegitimate daughter of Stephen II, Count of Blois, Stephen's father.[7] New research, however, suggests that Emma might have been a daughter of Hunger fitz Odin, who held lands in Dorset in the Domesday survey.[3][8][1]

    He married Emma ______, allegedly an illegitimate daughter of Etienne Henri, Count of Blois, and half-sister to Stephen, King of England. [2]

    He married first Emma de Blois-Champagne[3]

    m firstly EMMA de Blois, illegitimate daughter of ETIENNE Comte de Blois & his mistress --- (before 1102-). The primary source which confirms her parentage and marriage has not yet been identified.[4]

    1100 Second Marriage to Millisent
    Marriage Year Estimation. Assume Emma's death as untimely and his subsequent marriage to Millisent while there were children at home.

    He married secondly Milisent. [3]

    m secondly MILISENT, daughter of [ADAM], niece of William Turniant. The primary source which confirms her parentage and marriage has not yet been identified.[4]

    1129 Death
    Sir Herbert Of Winchester was living in 1111, when he was a member of the Michelmas treasury court at Winchester. [2]

    However, there is no certain record of Herbert after 1111, and it is possible that he should be considered the same person as "H. the Chamberlain", who Abbot Suger of St Denis named as an attempted assassin of Henry I in 1118, and who was punished by the king for the attempt.[3] Suger stated that the would-be-assassin was a chamberlain whose name began with "H", and who had been close to the king and received great rewards from the king. Suger added that the king only blinded and castrated the man, which the abbot considered to be mild compared with the hanging that the man deserved. William of Malmesbury does not name the assassin either, but relates that he had custody of the royal treasury. The historian C. Warren Hollister first made the identification between "H." and Herbert, noting that there was only one chamberlain in King Henry I's reign who had a name beginning with "H". The main argument against the identification is the fact that most records considered that Herbert remained in office until close to 1129 or 1130. However, charter evidence supports the inheritance of Herbert's lands by his son before 1121.[9][1]

    Herbert [1] [2] Herbert Fitz Herbert II, lord of Blaen Llyfni [3] HERBERT FitzHerbert [I] (-[before 1155]The 1130 Pipe Roll records "Herbt fil Herbti Camer…tra patis sui" in Hampshire[154]. An undated charter of Thomas Archbishop of York records that "domino Herberto Camerario et filio eius" were enfeoffed with "Laudesbrough, cum Tolethorpe, Wiverthorpe cum Helperthorp et duabus Luttunis in Turgisleby" and other properties in Yorkshire and in Gloucestershire, witnessed by "…Herbertus filius…"[155].

    "…Hereberto filio Hereberti…" subscribed a charter of Renaud Earl of Cornwall which names "matertere mee Aliz Corbet"[156]. m ([1115/25]) SIBYL Corbet Lady of Alcester and Pontesbury, formerly mistress of HENRY I King of England, daughter of ROBERT Corbet of Alcester, co Warwick & his wife --- ([1090/95]-after 1157).

    Herbert married de Blois, Emma. Emma was born in 1073 in Blois, Loir-et-Cher, Centre, France; died in 1187 in Aquitaine, France. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]


  2. 5.  de Blois, Emma was born in 1073 in Blois, Loir-et-Cher, Centre, France; died in 1187 in Aquitaine, France.

    Other Events and Attributes:

    • FSID: L8YY-B7R

    Children:
    1. 2. FitzHerbert, Herbert was born in 1087 in Blaenllyfni Castle, Bwlch, Breconshire, Wales; died in 1155 in Winchester, Hampshire, England.

  3. 6.  Corbet, Robert was born in 1054 in Pays De Caux, Seine-Maritime, Haute-Normandie, France; died in Jan 1122 in Alcester, Warwickshire, England; was buried in Mar 1134 in Alcester, Warwickshire, England.

    Other Events and Attributes:

    • Appointments / Titles: 1st Baron of Caus
    • Appointments / Titles: Baron of Pontsbury ,Shropshire
    • Appointments / Titles: Earl of Cornwall
    • Appointments / Titles: Alcester, Warwickshire, England; Lord of Alcester
    • FSID: GMVG-TRB
    • Residence: 1086; Held Manor of Farley

    Notes:

    Shrewsbury, Shropshire, England; Caus Castle is a ruin of a hill fort and medieval castle in the civil parish of Westbury in the English county of Shropshire. It is situated up on the eastern foothills of the Long Mountain guarding the route from Shrewsbury, Shropshire to Montgomery, Powys on the border between England and Wales. It was destroyed during the English Civil War and has been in ruins since.[1] The early outer earthworks of the site are probably an Iron Age hillfort, while the later motte-and-bailey is of Norman construction. Roger le Corbet (or Fitz Corbet) was granted several manors in Shropshire in 1069 by William the Conqueror as the Barony of Caus for his role in the Norman conquest and invasion of England. They were named after his Normandy estate in the Pays de Caux, in France. The Corbets owed fealty to Roger de Montgomery, the first Earl of Shrewsbury to help control Welsh Marches with absolute control over their demesne. Caus Castle was built by Roger le Corbet in the late 11th century as a high motte with a very small summit on which stood a tower and a strongly defended inner bailey. The castle was sufficiently important that the Crown took an interest in its maintenance. Henry II of England had it garrisoned in 1165. In 1198 Roger Corbet re-built the tower, keep and curtain wall in stone. During the late 12th century a town or borough was founded in the large outer Bailey. A royal grant of 50 marks was made in 1263 towards further building work, when D-shape towers were added to the curtain wall. The town contained a church of St Margaret as well as the castle's church of St Nicholas, and the names of two thoroughfares, Castle Street and St Margaret Street are recorded.[2] On the death of Beatrice Corbet in 1347 Caus passed to the Earl of Stafford. At its height the borough had 58 burgesses resident in 1349, a year coinciding with the arrival of the Black Death in England.

    Scottish branch: The first Corbet in Scotland came from Shropshire, and settled in Teviotdale under Earl David (later King David I of Scotland) in the first quarter of the 12th century. He is said to have obtained the manor of Fogo which he held as a vassal under the Earls of Dunbar. Robert fitz Corbet appeared in Scotland in about 1116 as one of the retinue of Earl David, who later became King David I. The author, Augusta Corbet, who wrote The Family of Corbet – Its Life and Times, says that Robert was the son of Roger Corbet and grandson of Corbet le Normand. It is said he belonged to the family which held Drayton in Northamptonshire. Robert Corbet was a witness in the instrument or Inquisition made by David, Prince of Cumberland, into the lands belonging to the old Church of Glasgow, and is also a witness in other deeds of David when he was King of Scotland (1124–53).

    Foundation for Medieval Genealogy

    ROBERT [I] Corbet (-after 1124). Orderic Vitalis records "Guillelmum cognomento Pantulfum et Picodum atque Corbatum, filiosque eius Rogerium et Rodbertum" as vassals of Roger de Montgommery in Shropshire, dated to [1071] from the context[1656].

    Domesday Book records “Robert fitzCorbet” holding Woolstaston, Ratlinghope, Womerton, Woodcote, Longden and several other places in Shropshire[1657].

    Henry I King of England granted the manor of Alcester, Warwickshire to Robert Corbet[1658]. "Rogerius filius Corbet, Robertus frater eius" subscribed the charter dated to [May 1121] under which Henry I King of England confirmed Shrewsbury abbey[1659]. A manuscript reciting the foundation of Shrewsbury abbey records donations including by "Robertus Corbeth" of “villam…Lochetonam”, with the consent of "filius eius Robertus"[1660].

    "…Robto Corbet…" witnessed the charter dated to [1119/24] under which "David comes filii Malcolmi regis Scotorum" founded the monastery of Kelso[1661]. "…Robertus Corbet…" witnessed the charter, dated to the reign of Alexander I King of Scotland, under which "David predicti regis Scotie germanum…Cumbrensis regionis princeps" listed the lands of the church of Glasgow[1662]. "…Rob Corbet…" witnessed the undated charter under which David I King of Scotland donated property to "ecclesie sci Johis de castro de Rokesburg"[1663].

    m [firstly] ---. The name of Robert’s [first] wife is not known.

    m [secondly] ---. The name of Robert’s [second] wife is not known. This second marriage is suggested by the difference in age between Robert’s two daughters, as explained below, although their estimated dates of birth could fall within the reproductive range of one woman.

    Robert [I] & his [first] wife had one child:

    a) SIBYL Corbet ([1090/95]-after 1157). The Complete Peerage deduces her parentage, relationship with King Henry, and her marriage from a charter, dated to [1163/75], of her son "Reginaldus, Henrici Regis filius, comes Cornubiæ" by which he granted property to "Willielmo de Boterell, filio Aliziæ Corbet, materteræ meæ" which he had granted to "Willielmo de Boterells in Cornubia, patri…predicti Willielmi" on his marriage, witnessed by "Nicholao filio meo…Herberto filio Herberti, Baldwino et Ricardo nepotibus meis, Willelmo de Vernun, Willielmo fratre meo…Hugone de Dunstanvill…"[1664]. The [1125/35] birth date range estimated for her son Herbert, born from this marriage, suggests that she married after her relationship with the king. The question whether she was the mother of Sibyl, wife of Alexander I King of Scotland, is discussed in the document ENGLAND, KINGS 1066-1603. Lady of Alcester and Pontesbury. The Pipe Roll of 1157 records a payment to "the mother of Earl Reginald" from an estate at Mienes, Sussex[1665]. Mistress ([1110/15]) of HENRY I King of England, son of WILLIAM I "the Conqueror" King of England & his wife Mathilde de Flandre (Selby, Yorkshire Sep 1068-Château de Lyon-la-Forêt, near Rouen 1 Dec 1135, bur Reading Abbey, Berkshire). m ([1115/25]) HERBERT FitzHerbert, son of HERBERT FitzHenry & his first wife Emma de Blois (-before 1165).

    Robert [I] & his [second] wife had two children:

    b) ROBERT [II] Corbet (-after Jul 1141). "…Roberto Corbet…" is named as present at a second donation by “Mylo constabularius de Gloucestria” to Lanthony abbey, undated but following an earlier donation dated 1137[1666]. It is not known with certainty that this Robert Corbet was the son of the earlier Robert Corbet. However, the latter would have been very old at the time if the charter refers to him. A manuscript reciting the foundation of Shrewsbury abbey records donations including by "Robertus Corbeth" of “villam…Lochetonam”, with the consent of "filius eius Robertus"[1667]. "…Rob Corbet…" witnessed the charter dated [Jul 1141/Dec 1142] under which Empress Matilda permitted "Milon com Heref" to hold the castle and honour of Abergavenny, from "Bri fil com et Matild de Walengeford uxor sue"[1668]. The absence of any later reference either to Robert [II] or to any possible children suggests that he died childless, maybe before he married, which in turn would suggest that he may have been born from his father’s supposed second marriage. Another possibility is that he settled in Scotland, where Walter Corbet and his descendants are recorded from the end of the 12th century (see the document UNTITLED SCOTTISH NOBILITY).

    c) ALICE Corbet ([1115/20]-). Eyton states that "Alice, daughter and eventual co-heir of Robert fitz Corbet married William Botterell of Cornwall", adding that the marriage must be dated to after 1140 as on her marriage her nephew Renaud Earl of Cornwall gave her property at "Cracunton and Bidun", both in Cornwall, which he assesses would only have been his after his installation as earl in that year[1669]. Renaud Earl of Cornwall issued a charter for William de Boterel which names his mother "matertere mee Aliz Corbet"[1670]. As noted above, Alice’s estimated birth date suggests that she may have been born from a different marriage from her sister Sibyl, although it is possible that their estimated dates of birth could fall within the reproductive range of one woman. m (1140 or after) WILLIAM Boterel [I], son of --- (-[1165/75]). Military fee certifications in the Red Book of the Exchequer, in 1166, record that "Willelmus de Boterellis" held one knight’s fee from the bishop of Exeter in Devon and twelve knights’ fees from "comitis Reginaldi" in Cornwall[1671].

    Roger Corbet. Alive at least between 1080 & 1122. May have fought at the Battle of Hastings. Held 24 manors in Shropshire in 1086 (DomesdaySurvey).

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    The following material was excerpted from The Corbet Study Group, J.C.Nobel, online at
    http://website.lineone.net/~corbett_group/First/people.htm:

    The Anglo Norman Corbets by Barbara Coulton

    Roger fitz Corbet's largest manor was Worthen, north of Rea Brook: its14½ hides supported men-at-arms as well as villagers. His other twenty-four manors included Yockleton, Westbury and Wattlesborough to the north and Pontesbury to the east of Worthen; further east lay his brother's chief manor of Longden. The site which later became the capital of the Corbet barony is not mentioned in early records, but it will be as well to review at this point what has been written of Cause - the first known reference to which occurs some fifty years after the DomesdaySurvey. It has already been pointed out that Corbet was probably associated with the Pays d'Auge. Later documents testify to the presence of the family in that area: holding land at Crocy in Calvados; donating land to the abbey of St-Martin and Ste Barbara at Ste-Barbe-en-Auge. 12 Most accounts of the family follow R.W.Eyton in locating the family in another part of Normandy, the Pays de Caux. Eyton asserts this as a fact,without citing original sources. He was following an idea of J.B.Blakeway, but Blakeway was by no means so definite: "what seems nearly certain is, that the family settled in the Pais de Caux." He gives no references for this supposition. The source he uses for an earlyCorbet lineage, the Histoire du Cambray et du Cambresis par Jean le Carpentier, Leyden 1664, deals with another branch of the family, and there is no reference to the Pays de Caux. 13 What seems to be at work is a wish to derive the place-name Caus/Cause from Caux, without any good evidence.

    Note: In order to play it safe, I have the father Hugh of both Pays deCaux and Pays d'Auge.

    Children:
    1. 3. Corbet, Sibylla was born in 1092 in Shropshire, England; died in 1157 in Blaenllyfni Castle, Bwlch, Breconshire, Wales; was buried in 1157 in Pontesbury, Shropshire, England.